My understanding is that Gemini was sub-chartered by ACE until their own operation was up and running with the DC-10. The first crews are training now and one bird is on the OC.

Hmmm, possible, hadn't heard that one...

Thanks

From a very reliable source who meet with one ACE's founders (Mckenzie). All crew are still on the 10 course, Gemini will be doing the contract until ACE has it'a aircraft on line. They have even been to the GTAA's hangar in YYZ to inquire about renting the bay next to Westjet's for the 10's maintenance.
Why ACE chose the DC-10 still boggles my mind, it is the most labour intensive aircraft I know. I think the money they saved on leasing is going to cost them in delays and maintenance. I know guys who say that the #2 eng on the 10 paid their mortage off 10 years early. Either way good luck to ACE, at least the contracts staying Canada.

WJman;

Curious how many DC-10's ACE will operate?

I had heard three.

I was told 2, I think it's in a post in this thread. One based in YYZ and one based in YYC.

Good luck to ACE with the 10. Unfortunately they will probably lose money as the aircraft will be too expensive to operate. Somebody was talking about ICC a little earlier. What are they up to now? That is Mr Pe#gra# who also owned ACS which flew three DC8 cargo aircraft out of YMX for a number of years until they declared bankruptcy and left a lot of people in the lurch. Then he started ICC which I believe did the same thing with A300's.

I did some time at ICC. Lots of good people but to much crappy management. A lot of money was wasted and eventually it lead to problems and then the end of the Emery contract. ICC is still open hoping for something to go their way but it is very bleak. The office is run out of Peagram's house. The only current revenue is a small storage contract for Delta MD-11's at YMX.
Peagram also owned Sunworls in the USA but was forced to close over ownwership percentage issues. Things have not gone ICC's way in a long time, it's too bad I really liked the A-300 and they were the only one's in Canada with that ype of capacity. IICC's name is mud now due to monetary issues so I don't think AC would even have considered them.

I believe that Sunworld is currently in operation. Started up mid September-ish (?).

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are operating nightly for Emery (Menlo) from ICT to DAY return.

That may be but not under Peagram. Peagram's Sunworld was operating 2 pax configured 727-200's. They were based out of Cincinati.

No, Peagram is involved.

Check your info again.

Checked it out, right you are. I thought it was sold. It is for sale though, and it had been shutdown for 2 months. Good luck to Mr. P.