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altiplano 29th Sep 2019 01:50


Originally Posted by BeeSevenSevenDoubleU (Post 10579172)
TSRA;

This is a fantastic quote and very well put. Too many pilots (myself included) get stuck on the idea of command. But one has to do the hard yards first! I've finally accepted that.

On another note, any AC pilots who can give me some info on rosters etc? Seriously considering emigrating to Canada Eh, and would love to find out the finer details of AC and if I would be eligible should I get my PR. Yes, I have the flight time requirements, would have to convert to TC ATPL tho.

Thanks in advance!

"Rosters" is a pretty broad question, eh? We have guys working between 7 and 20 days a month, with the vast majority in the range between those.... Your schedule will be based on type/base/seniority, narrowbody aircraft are capped at 16 days per month.

SMOOTHFLIER 29th Sep 2019 22:20

Will ac hire any direct entry captains in future?
Wondering if it’s possible to join as a captain or does everyone have to start as fo?
If it is possible what would the requirements be
thanks

altiplano 30th Sep 2019 02:50


Originally Posted by SMOOTHFLIER (Post 10582600)
Will ac hire any direct entry captains in future?
Wondering if it’s possible to join as a captain or does everyone have to start as fo?
If it is possible what would the requirements be
thanks

If it were possible it would be the same requirements as any new hire.

They've done it in the past on the RJ, but I doubt you'll see it now. Upgrades have to be offered to people on the property first.

Ilyushin76 30th Sep 2019 13:13

I am somewhat in the same boat as Flyboy.

TC license conversion aside, what are my chances with a 1000 hour TT with 700 + on jets. I've recently stopped flying as the company I worked for has closed shop.

My preference is to fly jets in regionals. Although turboprop is also welcomed if I can get a placement easily.

Ive been told that it can be a bit challenging to enter a jet cockpit without a Canadian ATPL.

altiplano 30th Sep 2019 22:07


Originally Posted by Ilyushin76 (Post 10583032)
I am somewhat in the same boat as Flyboy.

TC license conversion aside, what are my chances with a 1000 hour TT with 700 + on jets. I've recently stopped flying as the company I worked for has closed shop.

My preference is to fly jets in regionals. Although turboprop is also welcomed if I can get a placement easily.

Ive been told that it can be a bit challenging to enter a jet cockpit without a Canadian ATPL.

You have zero chance of getting hired at Air Canada with that experience.

I think with 1000 hours and jet time you have a chance of getting hired at a regional or possibly vacation charter operator or ULCC. ie. Jazz/Encore, or Sunwing/Flair.

Ilyushin76 1st Oct 2019 07:36


Originally Posted by altiplano (Post 10583470)
You have zero chance of getting hired at Air Canada with that experience.

I think with 1000 hours and jet time you have a chance of getting hired at a regional or possibly vacation charter operator or ULCC. ie. Jazz/Encore, or Sunwing/Flair.

Thank you for your reply.

Yes, I am not looking to get hired by AC at this low time experience.

However, if its jet flying in regionals - I am quite happy with that gig, as long as there is healthy time building.

I am curious though on my chances of getting picked up by these regionals - Jazz / Encore / Sunwing / Flair.

altiplano 1st Oct 2019 15:58


Originally Posted by Ilyushin76 (Post 10583696)
Thank you for your reply.

Yes, I am not looking to get hired by AC at this low time experience.

However, if its jet flying in regionals - I am quite happy with that gig, as long as there is healthy time building.

I am curious though on my chances of getting picked up by these regionals - Jazz / Encore / Sunwing / Flair.

Here is my current outlook for your chances:
51.7% / 63.5% / 22.8% / 41.6%

Without TC License and right to live and work in Canada though? 0.0%

runway07 1st Oct 2019 23:45

what about new joiners on 330? any chance?

does 330 have rp position or direct fo?

also where are the 330 base? do they have yyz base with 330?

thanks thanks !!

runway07 1st Oct 2019 23:46

do they give rp guys a full type rating on the WB?

Aristhrottle 3rd Oct 2019 00:36

Does AC still pay the lowest WB salary of the developed world ?

altiplano 3rd Oct 2019 07:18


Originally Posted by runway07 (Post 10584429)
what about new joiners on 330? any chance?

does 330 have rp position or direct fo?

also where are the 330 base? do they have yyz base with 330?

thanks thanks !!

YYZ and YUL for 330 bases.

No RPs at this time. New hire seniority can hold the FO position.

altiplano 3rd Oct 2019 07:19


Originally Posted by runway07 (Post 10584432)
do they give rp guys a full type rating on the WB?

RPs get type rated.

runway07 3rd Oct 2019 15:01

that's pretty nice,able to hold 330 fo right the way (am on 330 atm)

is it 330 a very seniority fleet? like very little movement, expect to be on reserve awhile?

kaptaansaab 4th Oct 2019 03:35

Hi guys,

I'm in the process of applying for a Canadian PR. TT of about 5000 hrs with 1000 hrs PIC on the A320.

What prospects do I have in Canada with this kind of flying experience ?

altiplano 4th Oct 2019 04:25

Historically yes, quite stable, but there's been lots of changes in the 330 fleet over the past several years. Bases closed (YVR/YYZ), bases opened (YUL), bases reopened (YYZ), new aircraft added... plus there is a lot of movement through the right seat of most fleets on recent bids.

RMP2 4th Oct 2019 07:36


Originally Posted by altiplano (Post 10586093)
Historically yes, quite stable, but there's been lots of changes in the 330 fleet over the past several years. Bases closed (YVR/YYZ), bases opened (YUL), bases reopened (YYZ), new aircraft added... plus there is a lot of movement through the right seat of most fleets on recent bids.

There might be more changes in the near future with over 700 A330 (dual qualified A320) type rated pilots from Air Transat; 90% living in YUL and 10% in YYZ.

runway07 4th Oct 2019 14:38

that doesn't sound too bad if movements are quicker, the reserve game wont last too long.

Ilyushin76 4th Oct 2019 19:30


Originally Posted by kaptaansaab (Post 10586081)
Hi guys,

I'm in the process of applying for a Canadian PR. TT of about 5000 hrs with 1000 hrs PIC on the A320.

What prospects do I have in Canada with this kind of flying experience ?

Which airline did you work for?

Ilyushin76 5th Oct 2019 03:09


Originally Posted by altiplano (Post 10583470)
You have zero chance of getting hired at Air Canada with that experience.

I think with 1000 hours and jet time you have a chance of getting hired at a regional or possibly vacation charter operator or ULCC. ie. Jazz/Encore, or Sunwing/Flair.


Do any of these categories fly the A320 family by any chance?

BeeSevenSevenDoubleU 5th Oct 2019 07:25

Thanks for the feedback altiplano!


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