Longtime lurker here... Brucelee, Inuksuk, et al gracias, your information has been greatly appreciated...

Now in regards to hiring, a guy with 3500ish total(mostly turbine), 1000 jet(550/560xl), 1200 pic, college... does he(me) stand a chance? I'd like to think the experience I've accumulated over my career so far would be fairly attractive to an employer such as AC. Given my situation it'd be a substantial paycut, but I'm more than willing to trade the cozy confines of the Middle East for a schedule and the comforts of home...

Jumpy737. The situation AC is facing now isn't much different from the one it faced last time. Of course there are those who can't "afford" to make the move. But I'm willing to bet that there are just as many who will do it. I can recall my course five years ago had mostly pilots who were making more money than AC was offering. Some took a $80K/yr cut. It all depends on everyone's situation. I suspect there are just as many pilots out there now as there were in the past who are willing to take the temporary salary cut. As for direct entry captain Emb, I don't think you'll see much of that. Most 767 fo and A320 fo are going to take that one. Not to mention RJ captains.
If you're trying to say that Alpa and Acpa are meeting to discuss hiring deals, I really don't think so. Management are the only ones who hold the cards on that one. My guess is that AC will get its experienced help. Just like last time.

"On Friday recall letters were mailed to all furloughed pilots with the anticipation that all will be required for aircraft courses between now and the end of July. With new hire pilots most likely required for Embraer training in August, a new hire course is tentatively planned for mid-July. As a result, file reviews are currently being conducted on those pilot candidates who were previously interviewed, tested and in some cases medicaled, when we stopped hiring in 2001. As a reminder, if you know of any pilot interested in Air Canada, applications are being received, on line only, via the Air Canada website."

This is from latest AC flt ops web site recently put out in the past week. Sounds like those hired in the near future will be Emb 170/190 FOs. YYZ/YUL bases.

Just talked to a friend who has been on the waiting list since 2001 and has a course in mid-July. The training department says first course of 20 in July with a course of 20 each month until new-year's.

Just wondering,

Realistically, what do these hirings mean for the industry as a whole, if anything?

Probably nothing... I wouldn't bother to apply:p

just to add in the two cents - Thanks brucelee and inukshuk! I've been lurking for a while and this stuff is great.

:ok:

"RECALL LETTERS HAVE BEEN MAILED TO ALL FURLOUGHED PILOTS, WITH
RESPONSES EXPECTED LATER THIS WEEK. FILE REVIEWS ARE BEING CONDUCTED ON PILOTS WHO HAD COMPLETED THE HIRING PROCESS WHEN WE STOPPED RECRUITING IN 2001. OUR FIRST COURSE OF NEW HIRES IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR JULY 11TH. "

From June 01 flt ops letter.

Also heard that Jazz pilots are now being invited to apply - and the news comes from their head of flight ops who send round info...

I heard the same thing on a different forum yesterday.

GOOD NEWS! Since we all made an effort to help ACE during CCAA we should have access as anyone else to these position!

This off the mec info line.

We have confirmed with the Company that
LOU 18 - Transition of Connector Pilots, as amended in 2003, is in effect
and we will abide by it. You can review this on the ACPA website under
Contract.

Good luck to all
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I hope everyone gets a crack at the Big Red. You Jazz guys deserve a shot as much as anyone. Heard rumours there are guys at WJ that are looking to jump accross. Said to be a couple of hundred. This comment was not intended to start a WJ vs AC arguement. My guess is some guys sitting in the right seat living miles from home (TO/Mont/Halifax) etc that just want to get home!


How many Jazz guys will give it a go? What about fellas from Skyservice, Transat, Flightcraft, ACE, Canjet etc?? Lots of jet people out there....

Comments?

Intresting:ooh:
WestJet guys leaving to go to Big Red.
Just goes to show that not everyone near the bottom is as happy as the guys at the top.

Just got the e-mail from ACPA that the negotiations for the pay rates on the 777 and 787 have broken down.The company wanted the matter settled before the June 10th meeting of the board of directors before finalising the purchase order.Looks like it might not get done by then and the order is now in limbo....

Are we about to get screwed again....

It is a never ending story at Air Canada.
I truly wonder if things will ever be able to function normally.:(

Will my Service Air time help?

Could someone from AC please update the info on AirlinePilotCentral.com? I hear now that probation pay in year one is only $38,000 and year two around $43,000. If so the info on that site is outdated and it would be much appreciated by all of us applying to be able to see the new numbers! Cheers.

ps. $38K? ouch

I think that the info on this thread has been great for those of you looking to join us. I thought I would post this little bit of info because it just came out today straight from Micheal Downey.

FILE REVIEWS ARE CURRENTLY BEING CONDUCTED ON PILOTS WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY INTERVIEWED AS PART OF OUR HIRING PROCESS IN 2001. WITH THE FIRST NEW HIRE COURSE PLANNED FOR JULY 11TH, WE SEE THE REQUIREMENT TO HIRE UP TO 600 PILOTS OVER THE NEXT 24-30 MONTHS. AGAIN, APPLICATIONS WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED ON-LINE.

I'm sure every body can do the math has to how many AC believes they will need to hire a month. I also think that beyond 30 months they will keep hiring.

Good luck to all.

Dockjock.
Where did you get those salary figures? I was under the impression that flat salary was untouched in the CCAA agreement. I looked back at my records and saw $53 an hour at about 80 hrs/month. This goes back to 2000.