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Hi Pigboat:
NJF suffered an enging failure during the flight test.
I was in London at the time so am only going by what I have been told, seems the master rod bearing failed.
They now have a new engine on and are awaiting the paperwork to be approved.
I sure feel sorry for the guys at Plane Sailing because they really have had more than their share of problems with that airplane.
When I ferried it from St Thomas to Nanaimo about six years ago it was a really good running PBY, since then they have poured a fortune into it and it is still sitting in Nanaimo.
By the way it has the most modern Instrument panel of any PBY ever, HSI, RMI, Garmin 430 and Garmin 530 plus a stand alone DME to meet Eurocontrol requirements. All in all it is quite a nice airplane and when the paper work is done it should be on its way to England........
I of course am not going with it as I promised my dog that I would never, never ever take on another transoceanic contract....screw it I've had enough.
I'll let you know when they are ready for the flight.
Chuck
NJF suffered an enging failure during the flight test.
I was in London at the time so am only going by what I have been told, seems the master rod bearing failed.
They now have a new engine on and are awaiting the paperwork to be approved.
I sure feel sorry for the guys at Plane Sailing because they really have had more than their share of problems with that airplane.
When I ferried it from St Thomas to Nanaimo about six years ago it was a really good running PBY, since then they have poured a fortune into it and it is still sitting in Nanaimo.
By the way it has the most modern Instrument panel of any PBY ever, HSI, RMI, Garmin 430 and Garmin 530 plus a stand alone DME to meet Eurocontrol requirements. All in all it is quite a nice airplane and when the paper work is done it should be on its way to England........
I of course am not going with it as I promised my dog that I would never, never ever take on another transoceanic contract....screw it I've had enough.
I'll let you know when they are ready for the flight.
Chuck
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Well STC have you ever looked at some of the people that do maintenance or fly a/c in third world countries? Most are illiterate and dumber than even you.
Although I don't consider myself "dumb" I am aware that you do. I agree however that people who do maintenance in third world countries are much less capable than their counterparts in the US and Canada. And that's because we are regulated far more effectively. Who the hell do you think sets the standards for AMEs here in Canada? The industry??? HAHAHAHAAH
Back to the topic, I think the underground site is a good thing for people to voice concerns over their industry without fear of repercusions from the regulators or their employers.
Thats my whole point. The "underground" might be a good venue to discuss problems. Unfortunately its full of personal attacks, rants, and uninformed ridiculous complaints. People in there even go after entities that have nothing to do with TC!
Again I say grow up you peanut brained nitt witt.
You're just full of the kiddie insults aren't you rwm. Try to grow up and show a little restraint in these forums. Pretend that you weren't trained in third world countries.
Chuck,
What's a "Garmin 450"??
Although I don't consider myself "dumb" I am aware that you do. I agree however that people who do maintenance in third world countries are much less capable than their counterparts in the US and Canada. And that's because we are regulated far more effectively. Who the hell do you think sets the standards for AMEs here in Canada? The industry??? HAHAHAHAAH
Back to the topic, I think the underground site is a good thing for people to voice concerns over their industry without fear of repercusions from the regulators or their employers.
Thats my whole point. The "underground" might be a good venue to discuss problems. Unfortunately its full of personal attacks, rants, and uninformed ridiculous complaints. People in there even go after entities that have nothing to do with TC!
Again I say grow up you peanut brained nitt witt.
You're just full of the kiddie insults aren't you rwm. Try to grow up and show a little restraint in these forums. Pretend that you weren't trained in third world countries.
Chuck,
What's a "Garmin 450"??
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How you doin Duke!!
Yeh I'm still at it, they owe me a lot of money and I fully intend to collect.
When are you coming over for some more flying training?
Your stories will be even better after I finish training you how to "really" fly...... Just imagine how the troops would enjoy your stories after they found out that you learned from me>>>>
Take care mate...
Chuck
Yeh I'm still at it, they owe me a lot of money and I fully intend to collect.
When are you coming over for some more flying training?
Your stories will be even better after I finish training you how to "really" fly...... Just imagine how the troops would enjoy your stories after they found out that you learned from me>>>>
Take care mate...
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Well STC I was not trained in third world counrties, and nor am I third world. I have read some of your other posts, and have found out that you have washed out as an engineer, and now just try to draw pretty pictures for the industry. What a shame, because what the industry needs is someone that understands maintaining a/c, and under a bit of pressure. You obviously failed at both aspects, and now just decide to spend your time tossing insults to people who have made a mark , and a reputable, dependable mark in the industry.
So what kind of bodge job do I have to thank to you?
The best thing that could happen to you is a slip in the shower, and a good crack on the head. Hopefully it would be the end to you and your pathetic retoric.
Oh shut up STC
Oh by the way STC, the third world has a good way of dealing with people like you. I don't think you would last long. And it would most likely be painfull.
So what kind of bodge job do I have to thank to you?
The best thing that could happen to you is a slip in the shower, and a good crack on the head. Hopefully it would be the end to you and your pathetic retoric.
Oh shut up STC
Oh by the way STC, the third world has a good way of dealing with people like you. I don't think you would last long. And it would most likely be painfull.
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rmw...I'm afraid STC is pulling your chain for it's own perverse amusement. He/she/it is the type who enjoys pulling the wings of butterflies and setting fire to stay cats. The one thing he/she/it can't stand is to be ignored. From he/she/it's remarks I find it difficult to believe he/she/it is even in aviation.
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rwm,
Lots of amusing rhetoric. Again it adds absolutely nothing to the discussion. And your assumptions are far from accurate.
But....I find one of your statements interesting and somewhat relevent, although I'm sure you don't realize it:
Oh by the way STC, the third world has a good way of dealing with people like you. I don't think you would last long. And it would most likely be painfull.
This implies that we have it much better here than in third world countries that lack regulation. I agree!
Regulation makes aviation safe.
By the way, I checked your posts too. As far as I can tell, you're a (quote) "piano player in a whore house."
Ralphy boy!
I don't post solely for amusement. If your "chain" gets "pulled" by what I write, too bad! It doesn't detract from the message nor does it invalidate my observations. It merely enforces my viewpoint that there are alot of people in the industry who just don't understand the role of regulation and are more interested in grandstanding than they are in safety.
I try to keep my accusations very general. I try to stay away from personal insults. That sort of thing tends to erode integrity. So when I make the general statement about "clowns" on the underground, its easy to figure out who the clowns (and potential clowns) are by the retaliatory insults.
So....if you have something valuable to add to the discussion, please be my guest. Otherwise I have no desire to lob insults back and forth.
Lots of amusing rhetoric. Again it adds absolutely nothing to the discussion. And your assumptions are far from accurate.
But....I find one of your statements interesting and somewhat relevent, although I'm sure you don't realize it:
Oh by the way STC, the third world has a good way of dealing with people like you. I don't think you would last long. And it would most likely be painfull.
This implies that we have it much better here than in third world countries that lack regulation. I agree!
Regulation makes aviation safe.
By the way, I checked your posts too. As far as I can tell, you're a (quote) "piano player in a whore house."
Ralphy boy!
I don't post solely for amusement. If your "chain" gets "pulled" by what I write, too bad! It doesn't detract from the message nor does it invalidate my observations. It merely enforces my viewpoint that there are alot of people in the industry who just don't understand the role of regulation and are more interested in grandstanding than they are in safety.
I try to keep my accusations very general. I try to stay away from personal insults. That sort of thing tends to erode integrity. So when I make the general statement about "clowns" on the underground, its easy to figure out who the clowns (and potential clowns) are by the retaliatory insults.
So....if you have something valuable to add to the discussion, please be my guest. Otherwise I have no desire to lob insults back and forth.
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I started this thread to allow the industry to examine how a few of Transport Canada's regulators pervert the regulation of our industry.
My posts are made backed up by provable documentation supported by Transport Canada's own investigation into my allegations against named individuals.
It is also a fact that I use my real name and run the risk of finding myself at the wrong end of a legal problem with the regulator if in fact my claims are proven to be untrue.
We are allowing a viscous windup artist posting under the name STC to hijack this discussion and blur the lines to the point that the core subject is becomming irrelevant.
Don't play his game, ignore him / her / it.
Chuck E.
My posts are made backed up by provable documentation supported by Transport Canada's own investigation into my allegations against named individuals.
It is also a fact that I use my real name and run the risk of finding myself at the wrong end of a legal problem with the regulator if in fact my claims are proven to be untrue.
We are allowing a viscous windup artist posting under the name STC to hijack this discussion and blur the lines to the point that the core subject is becomming irrelevant.
Don't play his game, ignore him / her / it.
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Regulations don't make aviation safe by themselves. The regulations are followed by people in the industry who make the industry safe. I police the idustry by ensuring I set a good example by following the regulations, and ensuring that my fellow coworkers don't go down the path of complacency. It is not my fear of the regulations, but my professionalism.
Now STC if you had ever been to the third world, you would know that they all have regulations, and are based on either the FAA or CAA/JAA. the difference is the people that do the work are mainly illiterate, or just don't have any professionalism.
As to the intended topic of this thread, it is to point out that there may be some of the regulators that may put a bit of their own personal predjudices into the mix of things, and that is not in any way shape or form making the industry safe. And if and when the individuals involved in the problem sort this issue out, you will have people that have felt wronged, and people that feel they were right to do the wronging. I have felt this in my life, and I got a letter from the RDG telling me that I may have been wronged, but the regulations have changed, and it is no longer their problem. So I was vindicated a bit, but still it has affected my career, and has made me aware that not all the regulators are respectable people. Do I feel that TC is a bad organization? Absolutly not, just the idividuals that have wronged me. I do have faith in the industry, and I feel that anything that gives people in the industry an open venue to talk about the industry is a good thing. I do like the underground sight for this reason. Do I feel that everything in it is gospel? No, same as I don't take everything in this sight as gospel. But the underground is Canadian, and it keeps me a bit in touch with home.
Now STC if you had ever been to the third world, you would know that they all have regulations, and are based on either the FAA or CAA/JAA. the difference is the people that do the work are mainly illiterate, or just don't have any professionalism.
As to the intended topic of this thread, it is to point out that there may be some of the regulators that may put a bit of their own personal predjudices into the mix of things, and that is not in any way shape or form making the industry safe. And if and when the individuals involved in the problem sort this issue out, you will have people that have felt wronged, and people that feel they were right to do the wronging. I have felt this in my life, and I got a letter from the RDG telling me that I may have been wronged, but the regulations have changed, and it is no longer their problem. So I was vindicated a bit, but still it has affected my career, and has made me aware that not all the regulators are respectable people. Do I feel that TC is a bad organization? Absolutly not, just the idividuals that have wronged me. I do have faith in the industry, and I feel that anything that gives people in the industry an open venue to talk about the industry is a good thing. I do like the underground sight for this reason. Do I feel that everything in it is gospel? No, same as I don't take everything in this sight as gospel. But the underground is Canadian, and it keeps me a bit in touch with home.
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rwm,
Now there's a good post!
I don't agree with it 100% but you make some good points. The "underground" website has the potential to solve alot of problems. Its just hard to weed out the BS from relevant stuff in my opinon.
Cheers.
Now there's a good post!
I don't agree with it 100% but you make some good points. The "underground" website has the potential to solve alot of problems. Its just hard to weed out the BS from relevant stuff in my opinon.
Cheers.
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Quote from STC..
"Nope. Not a TC employee. Vigorous defense? I'm not defending TC. Just laughing at the clowns who post in the "underground"!"
Hey STC... Are you laughing at yourself??? Last I checked you were one of the clowns who was posting....
By the way.. I do like the red nose and floppy shoes that you wear... very becoming...
"Nope. Not a TC employee. Vigorous defense? I'm not defending TC. Just laughing at the clowns who post in the "underground"!"
Hey STC... Are you laughing at yourself??? Last I checked you were one of the clowns who was posting....
By the way.. I do like the red nose and floppy shoes that you wear... very becoming...
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Phil,
I have never posted to the "underground". You might have seen my moniker on the "last visitors" line at the bottom of the main page. I have visited the site often to read some of your comedy bits.
HAHAHAHAHA....that's awesome. I can see that spelling isn't a pre-requisite to obtaining a license!
I have never posted to the "underground". You might have seen my moniker on the "last visitors" line at the bottom of the main page. I have visited the site often to read some of your comedy bits.
First off, our licence is so easy to get it is rediculous.
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Well STC,
I guess you've proved that you don't qualify for a "LICENCE" because I've got mine in front of me and it shows that I do in fact know how to spell...
Do your research before you try to trash someone little person..
Just remember, if you play with the bull, you might get the horn..
What a goof........
Phil
I guess you've proved that you don't qualify for a "LICENCE" because I've got mine in front of me and it shows that I do in fact know how to spell...
Do your research before you try to trash someone little person..
Just remember, if you play with the bull, you might get the horn..
What a goof........
Phil
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Actually Phil, "licence" is an alternate spelling for "license".
Good advice DF. Maybe you should consider it next time YOU decide to trash someone!
What the hell does that mean? HAHAHAHAHA....
I shouldn't complain. The more time you spend spreading the "bull" on PPRUNE the less time you spend endagering people's lives with your "rediculous licence".
By the way, the skull and cross bones were a nice touch. I can just imagine your red little face all scrunched up and pissed-off while you were responding!
Do your research before you try to trash someone little person..
Just remember, if you play with the bull, you might get the horn
I shouldn't complain. The more time you spend spreading the "bull" on PPRUNE the less time you spend endagering people's lives with your "rediculous licence".
By the way, the skull and cross bones were a nice touch. I can just imagine your red little face all scrunched up and pissed-off while you were responding!
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STC, you're a waste of good human skin.
"just remember if you play with the bull you might get the horn"...what part of that don't you understand?
You seem to have some trouble spelling yourself.."endagering".....rediculous?
Now get back to work before I tell your boss that you're making Tansport Canada employees look like idiots again.
Awwwww man...
I made a spelling error. Oh well, I'm sure that TC guy will make an issue outa that won't ya STC. Can't wait to hear what the dumb sh$$ has to say next.....it's good entertainment.
"just remember if you play with the bull you might get the horn"...what part of that don't you understand?
You seem to have some trouble spelling yourself.."endagering".....rediculous?
Now get back to work before I tell your boss that you're making Tansport Canada employees look like idiots again.
Awwwww man...
I made a spelling error. Oh well, I'm sure that TC guy will make an issue outa that won't ya STC. Can't wait to hear what the dumb sh$$ has to say next.....it's good entertainment.
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Hey VD,
Phil chose to take a shot at me, so he's suffering the consequences of writing before he thinks.
I don't wish to include you in this battle of wits as its obvious you're not armed!
By the way bubba, Phil used the mis-spelled word "rediculous" in his post before he corrected it. I was just poking fun at him by repeating it.
Of course it doesn't make sense since he changed his post, but what the heck. It made me laugh for a bit.
Phil chose to take a shot at me, so he's suffering the consequences of writing before he thinks.
I don't wish to include you in this battle of wits as its obvious you're not armed!
By the way bubba, Phil used the mis-spelled word "rediculous" in his post before he corrected it. I was just poking fun at him by repeating it.
Of course it doesn't make sense since he changed his post, but what the heck. It made me laugh for a bit.
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Bearcat,
Who told anyone to "piss off"?? I don't see an example of that anywhere in this thread.
Tells me alot about the reader....
The "underground" seems to have lost a couple of logos on it's main page. Did they bow to pressure from the government's lawyers???
Who told anyone to "piss off"?? I don't see an example of that anywhere in this thread.
Tells me alot about the reader....
The "underground" seems to have lost a couple of logos on it's main page. Did they bow to pressure from the government's lawyers???
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