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Old 27th Sep 2017, 01:34   #1 (permalink)
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US slaps huge duty on C Series

U.S. slaps 220 per cent duty on Bombardier's C Series jets | CP24.com
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Boeing gets 219% tariff on C series

But Boeing ain't subsidized by the US gummint a tall.

Nope, doesn't happen.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 12:57   #3 (permalink)
 
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First we should wait to see what the other verdict on this issue will be sometime in early October before taking action.

If again it goes against Bombardier then I'm all for the cancellation of the propose new F18 fighters and the possible purchase of the F35 fighters.

But the best way to retaliate would be an immediate 220% tax on all already ordered and signed deals for Boeing products coming into Canada including orders from WestJet and Air Canada on all 737s.

If AC is still in line to receive new 787s, then they too should be taxed.
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Subsidies, a hot potato which no one in the LPC saw coming?
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Old 28th Sep 2017, 02:51   #5 (permalink)


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First we should wait to see what the other verdict on this issue will be sometime in early October before taking action.

If again it goes against Bombardier then I'm all for the cancellation of the propose new F18 fighters and the possible purchase of the F35 fighters.

But the best way to retaliate would be an immediate 220% tax on all already ordered and signed deals for Boeing products coming into Canada including orders from WestJet and Air Canada on all 737s.

If AC is still in line to receive new 787s, then they too should be taxed.
So you are all for the Canadian government compromising national security in order to extort a private company? Using the men and women in our armed forces as a bargaining chip is pretty distasteful.

Even these threats from politicians just prove Boeings point that Bombardier is receiving unfair government backing.
It is very obvious they received subsidies.... they took that billion dollars to subsidize a deal with Delta(and to a lesser extent Air Canada) that resulted in a massive financial loss to the company.

Almost a billion dollars of Canadian taxpayer money got funnelled to an American company that posted a $4 billion profit last year.

The U.S. Department of Commerce used fact based research to determine a tariff based on how much below cost the C series were sold at, which had been in violation of trade rules..... To the people who say Canada should respond with tariffs against Boeing, what is that based on? Boeing isn't selling its products in Canada below cost with US government funds.

And no, military contracts are NOT subsidies.. the US government receives high end hardware for the billions it spends on defence contractors. It's not a hand out.

And it's not Boeings fault that tax is higher for a Quebec based company.
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How can Boeing claim they have been hurt in the marketplace when they (a) don't build an equivalent aircraft (there may be a 150 seater 737 but it's not on offer at the moment) and (b) they couldn't sell any 737s to a new customer for about five years even with their insane firing order (Boeing speak for production rate).
Plus there's the potential loss of American jobs in Pratt & Whitney, Rockwell Collins & Honeywell.
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the US government receives high end hardware for the billions it spends on defence contractors.
I really wouldn't consider the F-35 turkey low end hardware but even that is being subsidised by the US taxpayer via the Congress critter and their pork barrels.

If Canada had any sense then it should cancel the F-18s and go to the European option. It would give the orange idiot something else to squeal about how unfair NAFTA is to the poor USA. Guess the 220% applied duty doesn't count in this transaction.
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So you are all for the Canadian government compromising national security in order to extort a private company? Using the men and women in our armed forces as a bargaining chip is pretty distasteful.

Even these threats from politicians just prove Boeings point that Bombardier is receiving unfair government backing.
It is very obvious they received subsidies.... they took that billion dollars to subsidize a deal with Delta(and to a lesser extent Air Canada) that resulted in a massive financial loss to the company.

Almost a billion dollars of Canadian taxpayer money got funnelled to an American company that posted a $4 billion profit last year.

The U.S. Department of Commerce used fact based research to determine a tariff based on how much below cost the C series were sold at, which had been in violation of trade rules..... To the people who say Canada should respond with tariffs against Boeing, what is that based on? Boeing isn't selling its products in Canada below cost with US government funds.

And no, military contracts are NOT subsidies.. the US government receives high end hardware for the billions it spends on defence contractors. It's not a hand out.

And it's not Boeings fault that tax is higher for a Quebec based company.

LMAO... There are plenty of other countries with excellent military equipment we can buy from... The USA is not God's gift to this world!

If we can send them a clear and loud message so be it.
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I really wouldn't consider the F-35 turkey low end hardware but even that is being subsidised by the US taxpayer via the Congress critter and their pork barrels.

If Canada had any sense then it should cancel the F-18s and go to the European option. It would give the orange idiot something else to squeal about how unfair NAFTA is to the poor USA. Guess the 220% applied duty doesn't count in this transaction.
Totally agree.
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LMAO... There are plenty of other countries with excellent military equipment we can buy from... The USA is not God's gift to this world!

If we can send them a clear and loud message so be it.
Agree. Shove this tax right back at them.
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Nice first post ya shill

Boeing sold united 80 737's last year at 23M apiece to keep BBD out"what is list price on those". Maybe we need to send Boeing a message. Personally I would prefer the Rafale, and Dassault was willing to set up a production line in Canada.

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So you are all for the Canadian government compromising national security in order to extort a private company? Using the men and women in our armed forces as a bargaining chip is pretty distasteful.

Even these threats from politicians just prove Boeings point that Bombardier is receiving unfair government backing.
It is very obvious they received subsidies.... they took that billion dollars to subsidize a deal with Delta(and to a lesser extent Air Canada) that resulted in a massive financial loss to the company.

Almost a billion dollars of Canadian taxpayer money got funnelled to an American company that posted a $4 billion profit last year.

The U.S. Department of Commerce used fact based research to determine a tariff based on how much below cost the C series were sold at, which had been in violation of trade rules..... To the people who say Canada should respond with tariffs against Boeing, what is that based on? Boeing isn't selling its products in Canada below cost with US government funds.

And no, military contracts are NOT subsidies.. the US government receives high end hardware for the billions it spends on defence contractors. It's not a hand out.

And it's not Boeings fault that tax is higher for a Quebec based company.
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How long did the Government think the tax payer funded media could keep insulting the leader of one of the worlds most powerful nations before a response would be made ?


The soft wood timber was the first counter punch , the 220 tariff is just the beginning .
You can expect more counter punching from the Donald . The BBC mouthpieces that have been insulting the Donald will find themselves getting their funding cut, just like the NPR lost HUGE funding in the USA .
Most left wing MSM never said a disparaging word against bathhouse in eight years .They gave him a free ride for eight years. They thought they could finally unleash their pent up bile against the new guy just because nobody could accuse them of being racist, are in for a big nasty shock when they reap what they sow.
Which came first the Chicken or the egg ? The insults came first and then the tariffs ! Maybe if the CBC , BBC and the lefties play nice they might get treated nice in return
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How long did the Government think the tax payer funded media could keep insulting the leader of one of the worlds most powerful nations before a response would be made ?


The soft wood timber was the first counter punch , the 220 tariff is just the beginning .
You can expect more counter punching from the Donald . The BBC mouthpieces that have been insulting the Donald will find themselves getting their funding cut, just like the NPR lost HUGE funding in the USA .
Most left wing MSM never said a disparaging word against bathhouse in eight years .They gave him a free ride for eight years. They thought they could finally unleash their pent up bile against the new guy just because nobody could accuse them of being racist, are in for a big nasty shock when they reap what they sow.
Which came first the Chicken or the egg ? The insults came first and then the tariffs ! Maybe if the CBC , BBC and the lefties play nice they might get treated nice in return
You are delusional.
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Did you stay up all night to think of that witty retort ?
Or are kindergarten insults the limit of your ability to debate ?

Pay attention, there will be more counter punches coming.
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It's silly to think that the man across the border gives one tinker's damn about what's written or said about him in the CBC.
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Jeezus

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How long did the Government think the tax payer funded media could keep insulting the leader of one of the worlds most powerful nations before a response would be made ?


The soft wood timber was the first counter punch , the 220 tariff is just the beginning .
You can expect more counter punching from the Donald . The BBC mouthpieces that have been insulting the Donald will find themselves getting their funding cut, just like the NPR lost HUGE funding in the USA .
Most left wing MSM never said a disparaging word against bathhouse in eight years .They gave him a free ride for eight years. They thought they could finally unleash their pent up bile against the new guy just because nobody could accuse them of being racist, are in for a big nasty shock when they reap what they sow.
Which came first the Chicken or the egg ? The insults came first and then the tariffs ! Maybe if the CBC , BBC and the lefties play nice they might get treated nice in return
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How long did the Government think the tax payer funded media could keep insulting the leader of one of the worlds most powerful nations before a response would be made ?


The soft wood timber was the first counter punch , the 220 tariff is just the beginning .
You can expect more counter punching from the Donald . The BBC mouthpieces that have been insulting the Donald will find themselves getting their funding cut, just like the NPR lost HUGE funding in the USA .
Most left wing MSM never said a disparaging word against bathhouse in eight years .They gave him a free ride for eight years. They thought they could finally unleash their pent up bile against the new guy just because nobody could accuse them of being racist, are in for a big nasty shock when they reap what they sow.
Which came first the Chicken or the egg ? The insults came first and then the tariffs ! Maybe if the CBC , BBC and the lefties play nice they might get treated nice in return
Fitliker You need to go back into the history books and read some of the trade history between Canada and the US. Lumber tariffs have been an ongoing battle well before Trump became dictator of the US and in his mind the world. Also BBC in the British Broadcasting Corp not Canadian.
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I've just been audited by the CRA on my 2016 Tax Return.

One of the Questions was 'Do you have any dependents?' YES/NO. (If YES please give details.)

I put: 2.1 million illegal immigrants, 1.1 million drug addicts, 4.4 million unemployable scroungers, 50,000 criminals, hundreds of idiots in Parliament and 66,000 employees at Bombardier.

The CRA now say my response was 'Unacceptable'.

Can anyone please tell me who I left out?????
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I've just been audited by the CRA on my 2016 Tax Return.

One of the Questions was 'Do you have any dependents?' YES/NO. (If YES please give details.)

I put: 2.1 million illegal immigrants, 1.1 million drug addicts, 4.4 million unemployable scroungers, 50,000 criminals, hundreds of idiots in Parliament and 66,000 employees at Bombardier.

The CRA now say my response was 'Unacceptable'.

Can anyone please tell me who I left out?????
You forgot the good old United States as the 220% duty will be handed to Boeing to heal the broken heart if the Bombardier deal manages to go ahead.
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The CRA now say my response was 'Unacceptable'.

Can anyone please tell me who I left out?????

Well er340790, I believe the answer lies in the fact that neither humour, truth, nor fiction gets through the walls of the Connaught Building. Like many buildings in the Capital Region, it is an impenetrable fortress to critical thinking and appropriate action.


It is where common sense goes to die.
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