How many Canadians find Pprune their choice to communicate?
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PPRuNe is the only such website I use. I did look at Av Canada, but was not impressed, and did not appreciate the whining I read. Though there is bunk here too, even the whiners seem to generally conduct themselves at a higher level.
That said, the Canada forum here does not offer a great deal to me, several other forums are much more useful on a day to day basis.
When you find a good PPRuNer, they're great!
That said, the Canada forum here does not offer a great deal to me, several other forums are much more useful on a day to day basis.
When you find a good PPRuNer, they're great!
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Personally, I began using PPRune when I was working in New Zealand and brought it home with me - so I was using this site long before I even knew forums like AvCanada existed.
I've never been a big AvCanada fan and left when I realised it was really just a bunch of 'chip on their shoulder' kind of posters who were more interested in making stupid comments and stirring gossip, rather than providing information.
I guess the big catch for me here on PPRune is what Rhys Perraton was getting at:
You actually get an answer that is professional, rather than sorting through 10 posts of "how the hell do you have a license?" type responses before finding one, tiny shred of information.
I've never been a big AvCanada fan and left when I realised it was really just a bunch of 'chip on their shoulder' kind of posters who were more interested in making stupid comments and stirring gossip, rather than providing information.
I guess the big catch for me here on PPRune is what Rhys Perraton was getting at:
PPRUNE has some great stuff such as Aviation History and so on and many people seem to be on it because they have a real interest in, and enjoy, aviation.
I think Avcanada has significantly improved in the last year both in tone and the value of its content. If you want current info on what is going on in Canada, it is the place to go. This forum IMO does not seem to attract much interest as evident by the low number of new posts on any given day...
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Has it occurred to anyone that a forum is made up of its membership, and as such the tone is set by it? Doesn't look like it from the cheap seats.
Chuck, just b/c posters are "new" doesn't mean we aren't old a full of experience. This is about my 5th post here on Pprune, does that make me irrelevant in your eyes? Must I have 5000 posts before my thoughts are pertinent?
Chuck, just b/c posters are "new" doesn't mean we aren't old a full of experience. This is about my 5th post here on Pprune, does that make me irrelevant in your eyes? Must I have 5000 posts before my thoughts are pertinent?
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OldCanuckPilot, why would you feel I would find your thoughts to be not pertinent?
I believe you are referring to this comment I made?
What I was saying was a lot of the posters who had been regulars for years gradually quit posting and were replaced by new members in the forum, which is to be expected over time.
The newer posters seem to be of a different mindset and some are new to aviation thus have a different perspective on the industry.
I found over time I have little in common with them thus have lost interest in being part of the group.
Judging from some of the comments made here about my not posting on Avcanada anymore it has improved Avcanada so it is a win, win for everyone.
Seems I was perceived as a bully and my departure will be a plus for them.
I believe you are referring to this comment I made?
Polyfier, I still read Avcanada and have noticed that most of the posters now are fairly recent ones.
A lot of the older long time posters are gone.
A lot of the older long time posters are gone.
The newer posters seem to be of a different mindset and some are new to aviation thus have a different perspective on the industry.
I found over time I have little in common with them thus have lost interest in being part of the group.
Judging from some of the comments made here about my not posting on Avcanada anymore it has improved Avcanada so it is a win, win for everyone.
Seems I was perceived as a bully and my departure will be a plus for them.
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Old Canuck Pilot, If indeed you, and others of your ilk do in fact have an aviation background then why not give some indication of such experience on your public profile? This way one is able to craft replies to your posts based on this information, if you dont post some information then most of us write you of as just another "Walt", as the Brits say.
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I used Avcanada as a way to keep abreast of, and involved in, the industry in Canada when I was living and running an operation far removed from any reasonable "center" of aviation. I posted with my real name, occasionally posted things that some took offence to, and occasionally ran into afoul of a $hitdisturber or two. I am generally proud of my contributions to that forum over the years (since the old days when it was the ladder-style forum!!), and shake my head at how much money I have made off that site. I don't see it as being any better or worse now than it always has been.
That being said, I have also always come to pprune for a refreshing, professional, more worldly view of my chosen industry.
I find that now that I 1) am no longer an owner, and 2) am based in a bigger center, my contributions to Avcanada have pretty much dried up. Just no longer enough incentive to tolerate the BS.
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That being said, I have also always come to pprune for a refreshing, professional, more worldly view of my chosen industry.
I find that now that I 1) am no longer an owner, and 2) am based in a bigger center, my contributions to Avcanada have pretty much dried up. Just no longer enough incentive to tolerate the BS.
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Old Canuck Pilot, If indeed you, and others of your ilk do in fact have an aviation background then why not give some indication of such experience on your public profile? This way one is able to craft replies to your posts based on this information, if you dont post some information then most of us write you of as just another "Walt", as the Brits say.
If indeed you were a "Clunck" driver, I can assure you we are about the same age, and I have been around the proverbial block more than a few times. I am however rather new to this whole aviation website world, and I am also a bit perplexed at the attitudes on display, as evidenced by your post, among others. Why don't you post your c.v. for us and we can debate whether or not it is worth responding to further?
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Before this thread comes off the rails due to personalities clashing let me assure you that Clunkdriver has a very impressive C.V. OldCanuckPilot as I personally know him.
When I started this subject my intent was to find out where people prefer to post and read not to generate a sand box fight among pilots.
How about everyone taking a deep breath and staying on track here?
By the way when you ask someone to prove their background and show proof of what they have done that works two ways.
Fortunately I use my real name and my C.V. is not a problem.
When I started this subject my intent was to find out where people prefer to post and read not to generate a sand box fight among pilots.
How about everyone taking a deep breath and staying on track here?
By the way when you ask someone to prove their background and show proof of what they have done that works two ways.
Fortunately I use my real name and my C.V. is not a problem.
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If indeed you, and others of your ilk do in fact have an aviation background then why not give some indication of such experience on your public profile?
It seems my motivation in joining here is a bit different than other people's. I'm not here to beat my chest, drag out my c.v. for all to see, and generally make it all about me. I'm here to see what others have to say, perhaps learn a thing or two, and contribute where I can.
To date my only real contributions have been on the medium itself, as in all my years dealing with people, I can't say I've ever seen anything quite like these 'forums.' Odd culture to be sure.
If you're going to leap to the defense of someone who in turn is jumping to conclusions about me "and my ilk," then I could gently suggest you apply your standards with a little broader brush stroke.
To be on topic, I think for Canadian aviation information this particular site is nearly useless, just not enough going on. There are some good and active parts of the site however, but there seems to be a lot of nastiness floating around.
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I can't say I've ever seen anything quite like these 'forums.' Odd culture to be sure.
I sometimes feel that being a participant in these forums is a waste of time, however there are some good discussions and that keeps me involved.
If you're going to leap to the defense of someone who in turn is jumping to conclusions about me "and my ilk," then I could gently suggest you apply your standards with a little broader brush stroke.
At least I don't hide behind anonymity.
I can understand Canadians preferring the Canadian site, however the last decade or so of my career my business was based out of London England so I feel quite comfortable here.
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It sure does seem a lot 'cleaner' and more 'civil' over here.
But I'm like where AirTids was, pretty far from the center of aviation and it's a lot easier to connect and relate to other aviators on the other site.
But more and more, I'd rather sift through irrelevant topics and posts here than the BS over there...
Good to read you again Chuck and clunkdriver!
But I'm like where AirTids was, pretty far from the center of aviation and it's a lot easier to connect and relate to other aviators on the other site.
But more and more, I'd rather sift through irrelevant topics and posts here than the BS over there...
Good to read you again Chuck and clunkdriver!
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Old Canuck, may I sugest again that you give some info on your public profile of your aviation background {Dont need a full CV] then folks will know if you are not just another Troll/Walt thus your posts will merit informed replies, for myself if I published my full details I would be up to my neck in CVs every morning from deserving pilots looking for seats, as it is, I get far too many from pilots I cant help, thus I chose not to publish my full name ect, as it is I think my public profile gives enough info for folks to work out that I do indeed have an aviation background. {By the way 1750hrs on the "Sled", best fun I ever had!}
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I've been a member here for over three years, I only just filled out some info on my profile ... OldCanuckPilot is a total newb, give him/her a chance to figure out what he/she is comfortable disclosing 
Oh, and I hope a lack of aviation background doesn't make one's opinions irrelevant (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)??!?
Users like Chuck and Clunck have an incredible amount of knowledge and experience that anyone can learn from ... god knows I learned more from these two gentlemen than from anything I've read, books, articles, research papers, whatever ... I hope they both know what a compliment that is meant to be.
They and others like them are sorely missed over at THAT place ... and frankly, they both hold a very special place in my heart. Even if I am a mod over there
Oh, and I hope a lack of aviation background doesn't make one's opinions irrelevant (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)??!?Users like Chuck and Clunck have an incredible amount of knowledge and experience that anyone can learn from ... god knows I learned more from these two gentlemen than from anything I've read, books, articles, research papers, whatever ... I hope they both know what a compliment that is meant to be.
They and others like them are sorely missed over at THAT place ... and frankly, they both hold a very special place in my heart. Even if I am a mod over there
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Thank you Widow, Im afraid that some of your fellow mods at "the other place" have destoyed the site with their limited experience of the world and PC perspective which make any views which clash with their restricted opinions to be out of bounds, on this site I can state that "God meant the little wheel to be on the tail" and I dont get a lecture from some born again zelot, rather I get PMs asking for a tailwheel checkout, which once my little aircraft is back in tha air I will be happy to do , also I can use the normal phrase from my generation for "Gay" and not get chastized for its use. I think, as Chuck has stated ,that Canada is getting so bloody PC that soon there will be no meaningfull debates this side of the Ogin, we could learn from the Brits in this field. {Boy, hows that for thread drift?}
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The lack of respect for older pilots shown by so many on the Canadian site is mindboggling.
Judging from some of their comments us older pilots have done something very wrong by getting old.
Obviously they have yet to figure out that maybe we got old because we actually do know how to fly and make good decisions.
There was a time when I wanted to start a one person training business using my Cub to teach stick and rudder skills to the younger generation, however that desire has pretty well gone as being old is to much of a negative and I would have been wasting my time.
So screw it I will just fly it for my own pleasure.
One day I was at the airport and a couple of pilots flying a B1900 were looking at the PBY that is parked in Nanaimo and I got to talking to them. During the conversation I asked them if their company ever needed part time pilots on the 1900.
The guy with the four gold bars on his shoulders asked me why I was asking so I said maybe I would consided some part time flying.
He looked at me as if I were an untouchable and asked me if I had any turbine time.
So I asked him if he meant fixed or rotary wing?
He got even more arrogant and said what kind of a fixed wing turbine airplane did I last fly, so I said a B 767 and asked him how much time he had on one.
His F.O. almost pissed his pants trying to keep from laughing and the gold braided hero just walked away and never answered my question.
Judging from some of their comments us older pilots have done something very wrong by getting old.
Obviously they have yet to figure out that maybe we got old because we actually do know how to fly and make good decisions.
There was a time when I wanted to start a one person training business using my Cub to teach stick and rudder skills to the younger generation, however that desire has pretty well gone as being old is to much of a negative and I would have been wasting my time.
So screw it I will just fly it for my own pleasure.
One day I was at the airport and a couple of pilots flying a B1900 were looking at the PBY that is parked in Nanaimo and I got to talking to them. During the conversation I asked them if their company ever needed part time pilots on the 1900.
The guy with the four gold bars on his shoulders asked me why I was asking so I said maybe I would consided some part time flying.
He looked at me as if I were an untouchable and asked me if I had any turbine time.
So I asked him if he meant fixed or rotary wing?
He got even more arrogant and said what kind of a fixed wing turbine airplane did I last fly, so I said a B 767 and asked him how much time he had on one.
His F.O. almost pissed his pants trying to keep from laughing and the gold braided hero just walked away and never answered my question.
