Lordon Report on AC Pilot Seniority
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This post is a dead-end...Never to be agreed on. But one things for sure, when the government regulates, then semi-de-regulates, then regulates on a forced merger...
Its a bit more complicated than this Dweeb's opinions.....
Its a bit more complicated than this Dweeb's opinions.....
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I don't know who, your source is. But, he is dead wrong. Don't take any stock market advice from him/her.
There was never any "run" at the CAIL pension. CAIL was never bankrupt, unlike Air Canada. There were a couple of concessionary contracts that were all mutually negotiated between the company and CALPA.
Besides, why on earth would it even matter? Someone mouthing off, on something they don't have a clue about.
More miss-information!
I don't know who, your source is. But, he is dead wrong. Don't take any stock market advice from him/her.
There was never any "run" at the CAIL pension. CAIL was never bankrupt, unlike Air Canada. There were a couple of concessionary contracts that were all mutually negotiated between the company and CALPA.
Besides, why on earth would it even matter? Someone mouthing off, on something they don't have a clue about.
More miss-information!
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Been here two years, after having proudly served with the Canadian Forces for 21 years. I am equally as proud every time that I put on my Air Canada uniform and go to work with some truly fantastic people.
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ACPA
Certainly ACPA has had a hard go as have all pilot associations in North America.
Unfortunately for the Air Canada pilots ALPA has been scabbing their flying for years. Makes it hard to leverage up wages. So if you lament the downhill spiral think who caused it. The last opportunity was during CCAA where they did the deal with Rovinesceu to steal yet more flying. Easy to blame ACPA but with members like Johnny767 what can any pilot group do. Yes I agree the 98 strike was stupid. So run for office and provide your own brilliance. At least ACPA is democratic. I know a lot of JAZZ pilots that would have loved to have a vote when the Clique was running ALPA.
Unfortunately for the Air Canada pilots ALPA has been scabbing their flying for years. Makes it hard to leverage up wages. So if you lament the downhill spiral think who caused it. The last opportunity was during CCAA where they did the deal with Rovinesceu to steal yet more flying. Easy to blame ACPA but with members like Johnny767 what can any pilot group do. Yes I agree the 98 strike was stupid. So run for office and provide your own brilliance. At least ACPA is democratic. I know a lot of JAZZ pilots that would have loved to have a vote when the Clique was running ALPA.
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5 years ago, the drivers in BlueStar threatened Eustache and the gang with mass walkout, and in future if they don't play ball, I want to see the same thing happening too...but they will
In a lot of us, there's this balance emerging between a fair wage for the job we do, and being fair to those who pay our salaries...we know the industry is in flux, in a state of disrepair, and we are pliable and understand what the beancounters need to achieve.
That said, fair working conditions, fair wage, fair promotion prospects are no different for us than other professionals.
Without mobilized representation, like any other worker group, we're open to exploitation...look at what O'Leary thinks of his pilots over at Ryanair, and the disdain Milton had when running AC. Having never worked at AC, it's only what I hear, but anyone who is a member of chevaliers du ciel is bound to be unbalanced
In a lot of us, there's this balance emerging between a fair wage for the job we do, and being fair to those who pay our salaries...we know the industry is in flux, in a state of disrepair, and we are pliable and understand what the beancounters need to achieve.
That said, fair working conditions, fair wage, fair promotion prospects are no different for us than other professionals.
Without mobilized representation, like any other worker group, we're open to exploitation...look at what O'Leary thinks of his pilots over at Ryanair, and the disdain Milton had when running AC. Having never worked at AC, it's only what I hear, but anyone who is a member of chevaliers du ciel is bound to be unbalanced
