WJ + CYOW + Slippery Rwy = Overrun
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+TSRA...excellent remarks and appreciated.
I've often wavered on the so-called media coverage over the years. No one, or not many from our profession (except for Jim Nance) stands to present factual information to the media when any aircraft accident or incident occurs. I'm not suggesting, by any means, I'm the person to do that nor would I want to be. But, if the industry continues to be 'stand-off-ish' about it, the stupidity in the press will continue. The media thurst for information in the early hours of an incident is all that motivates them. The lurkers in this forum from the media are simply stuck for ideas, so I would think a credible comment in a forum like this would be reasonable rather than letting them speculate or insinuate what happened.
Wallygator...
I'm not sure I understand your comment.
Normally, NG operators land with a F30 configuration. By allowing for Human Factors (usually part of any incident) Murphy's Law, etc., I think it's plausible (however unlikely statistically) that a flap selection either side of 30 might have resulted. But I'm only speculating.
We won't know the facts till the TSB publish them.
I've often wavered on the so-called media coverage over the years. No one, or not many from our profession (except for Jim Nance) stands to present factual information to the media when any aircraft accident or incident occurs. I'm not suggesting, by any means, I'm the person to do that nor would I want to be. But, if the industry continues to be 'stand-off-ish' about it, the stupidity in the press will continue. The media thurst for information in the early hours of an incident is all that motivates them. The lurkers in this forum from the media are simply stuck for ideas, so I would think a credible comment in a forum like this would be reasonable rather than letting them speculate or insinuate what happened.
Wallygator...
I'm not sure I understand your comment.
Normally, NG operators land with a F30 configuration. By allowing for Human Factors (usually part of any incident) Murphy's Law, etc., I think it's plausible (however unlikely statistically) that a flap selection either side of 30 might have resulted. But I'm only speculating.
We won't know the facts till the TSB publish them.
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I would agree with you that the industry as a whole is very insular about what information gets out to the public in the minutes, hours and days after an incident or accident. Its almost as if we all feel naked when someone, like a reporter, starts asking questions that in the normal course of our day would never be answered. By no means do I agree with this, but at the same time I don't want to be up front taking the heat either.
The problem is, though, that even a credible statement can be turned to the "dark side", if you will. I used the Cessna example in my last post because I have experience with just such a case where a 152 had a tire problem and circled around until the pilot felt confident enough to land(which required the story of the retractable landing gear). The press release the company put out stated it was nothing more than a blown tire, and the pilot was only circling for safety reasons, but the media decided to do their own thing anyways.
I would still agree though that it is better to put facts to the media, and if speculation is done on the boards, it is done in a professional manner - not the mud slinging, childest ranting that seems to preoccupy most forums...as fun as taking the devils advocate sometimes can be...
The problem is, though, that even a credible statement can be turned to the "dark side", if you will. I used the Cessna example in my last post because I have experience with just such a case where a 152 had a tire problem and circled around until the pilot felt confident enough to land(which required the story of the retractable landing gear). The press release the company put out stated it was nothing more than a blown tire, and the pilot was only circling for safety reasons, but the media decided to do their own thing anyways.
I would still agree though that it is better to put facts to the media, and if speculation is done on the boards, it is done in a professional manner - not the mud slinging, childest ranting that seems to preoccupy most forums...as fun as taking the devils advocate sometimes can be...
