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Old 20th March 2000 | 15:06
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I am a canadien citizen working overseas.Currently have 3600hrs on turbo-props of which 1600hrs are command.Looking at any oppurtunity back home with this experience.
 
Old 20th March 2000 | 23:06
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TRY CANADIAN REGIONAL - THEY ARE HIRING 30 - 40 F/O'S MAINLY FOR THE F28 BASED IN T.O. GOOD LUCK
 
Old 21st March 2000 | 06:48
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Craiger thanks for the info.Would appreciate if you know what are the requirements for the F28 FO and any contact address
 
Old 23rd March 2000 | 20:12
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With all we hear about Canadians running out of this country to escape taxes and cold weather....What are you doing leaving a pardise like Fiji to consider working at pay levels found at the bottom rung with the regionals?
I ask this in all sincerity... I'am considering something "overseas" and am truly wondering about the greener pastures side of this issue.
 
Old 25th March 2000 | 00:00
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I am just finishing off my commercial/multi/IFR and would appreciate any info on how one gets a job overseas. I hear about all these great flying jobs around the world, just wondering how those flying them found the job! Thanks.
 
Old 25th March 2000 | 02:16
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I left Canada about ten years ago to thaw out the b***s and make some money that I don't have to share with the government!!!
Get yourself good multi turbine time. IE twotter or metro before leaving the country you know. If you want a job now overseas, pack your bag and go,go,go!! I started in the Caribbean, then Yemen, Ethiopia, and finally Algeria. I know fly DC-10's in Europe and love it!! Try Turtle Aurways in the Pacific. The jobs are there, you just have to get off of your ass and find the work. The lucky ones only get a few of the jobs!! Good luck, keep it posted.
 
Old 25th March 2000 | 02:43
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Regional offered me a job right seat on the F28 out of TO about 2 years ago for 22G's a year..... make of that what you wish..... I would have had to declare bankruptcy.... thank God for Asian airlines...... now I'm in Disneyland.(metaphorically speaking of course)

Taxes Suck. No Tax Good.
 
Old 27th March 2000 | 08:57
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Hey rookie -------- I hear that Ken borek out of YYC is looking for people for their twinotter operation in Male....... and they say Male is just spectacular. Do you know dirk digler or something like that he is donw there - in fact mostly Canadians down there. Hopes this helps.

cheers
 
Old 27th March 2000 | 20:28
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If you are planning to apply at Borek be very carefull. I know quiet a few guys that used to work for them. Most left very quickly. Male sounds and looks great. But their Cp likes to make a lot of empty promoses. He is not very highly regarded in the industry.
His nickname, given by fellow pilots is Louthetitt. For good reason.
 
Old 28th March 2000 | 07:50
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Yes be very cautious.....
LOTS "O" Promises....even more BS!
All good contracts go to the ol'boys...
speaking of which...ask them how many contract they are actually working....getting thin.
Been there, done them. Never go back. Flip burgers first.
 
Old 28th March 2000 | 19:17
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Hello been-dair-done-dat,

seems that you are not the only one. I know a couple of guys that were working for Borek at the time when I showed interest with them. All, without exception advised me against it. Their operating procedure is one reason why they like to hire single, inexperienced guys. They can f**ck them around more. I also know a couple of guys whos marriage were put in the ringer because of the assignments they would get from, "thetitt". His wife left him actually about a year ago. Couldn't handle the BS I guess.
 
Old 28th March 2000 | 22:33
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Well I know 3 people that are flying for Borek, all of which graduated last year from Selkirk College. 2 are FOs on the King Air 100/200/C90 and do rotations in and out of Iqaluit. The third is a girl who is heading over to the Maldives to operate the Twotter on floats. All seem to enjoy working for them. Who do all the various relief agencies overseas get to fly for them?
 
Old 29th March 2000 | 04:08
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Ah Yes....to be a young FO again without regard to the journey log other than just flight time...brings back good memories.
By the way...those FO's were probably some of the poor lads and lassies I spent many a day at the Fantasy Cafe (aka, Belly button Inn) advising how to gently remove the dry instrument lodged in their backsides. Then ask me for a recommend to one of my buds who could hire them on somewhere else....anywhere else. (As I could, I did)
Perhaps ask to multitude of good people that shake with nerves when it comes time to let the company know that you have a job interview. I have seen too many perfectly fine pilots ground into the dirt and flunk rides at the mere mention of any other opportunity.
Ask the CP for the Bar XH about the letter from "them", trashing a pilot he was hiring....(the trashed pilot told me he was advised of this by BarXH's CP who promptly destroyed the offending letter.) What kind of a vindictive person does that to another?
My last point is a question. How come the guy who does the hiring and firing is also the guy who does Instrument Rides....seems like a conflict of interest to me.
Good on your FO buds....enjoy it while it lasts. Just like the Hotel California. Hard place to leave on friendly terms.
 
Old 29th March 2000 | 15:50
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CRA just signed a new contract that will give them parity with AO.
That would give a start salary of about 40 thousand a year. There is also West Jet to consider. Think long and hard before you jump to an overseas job.
The entire world is not as civilized as Canada. The taxes and living expenses in most of Europe make Canada look like a haven.
There is less tax in Asia, but you are treated like an assembly line worker,
In addition, there are no labor laws to speak of.

DS
 
Old 29th March 2000 | 19:20
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Another point about Borek,

I can only confirm what been-dair wrote. A further mentioning should be the advancement to captain-position within the company. Their aren't many to speak of. One reason is the high turnover they have and the other is that they much rather hire an outsider right into the left seat. Leaving the poor shlep on the right carring drums, co-insiding with the much lesser pay-check since he is stuck in that position.
They will always find people who think that these forums are just to scare off possible competition for a job. In my case this isn't so. I know to much about "thetitt" and the company to be applying their.
 
Old 31st March 2000 | 01:38
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Responding to the folks who are looking for overseas jobs. First of all, a debunking of a myth. Canadian flight schools seem to push the idea that if you have a Canadian pilot license, you are in demand overseas. Not quite so. I've found that the FAA license is a little better recognized-- at least in this hemisphere. So, get the FAA ticket if you are seriously. Next, where do you go? Seems to me that a number of people seem to overlook the fact that there are a number of N-numbered aircraft working in other countries. No green card? No U.S. citizenship? So what? I work for a U.S. company flying N-numbered aircraft at three different overseas bases! Went from being a layed off, seasonal single engine driver in northern Canada to being a full time, 100 hr per month multi-engine turbine captain overnight. All this with a grand total of 150 multi-engine. Yes, it took a lot of work, money, and networking-- about 3 years worth! But if you really want it it is possible, if not difficult. So, one avenue is to look at N-numbered aircraft flying overseas-- you shouldn't have to look too hard to find them.
 
Old 31st March 2000 | 10:37
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Things are starting to heat up here in Canada.
I just got called Monday for a Canada 3000 interview. They will be hireing 20 right away and up to 90 this year.
This morning Air Canada booked me for an interview and sim check in Toronto next week.
They are looking at 18 a month for the next while.
WestJet will also hire 60 this year and at least that next year as the Boeing 737-700 order arrives.
Finally some good news in a country where career advancement in airlines has been like Stalingrad the past couple of years.
 
Old 31st March 2000 | 18:09
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It's going to be a good time for all levels of experience for the forseeable future....This aviation thing is finally going to start leading to the good times I always heard about in the 70's.
Good on you...knock'em dead.
 
Old 2nd April 2000 | 01:14
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Well it's great the the "majors" are doing so much hiring, hopefully it will create a void in the smaller operations so low timers like me can find work. I would love to go overseas though. I know I will find a job out there, its just a matter of when and where!
 
Old 2nd April 2000 | 18:52
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The Canadian Aviation Industry accounts for a mere 2% of worldwide traffic, RPK`s, aircraft, and in turn flying jobs. With all the crap going on in Canada right now between Air Canada and Canadian Airlines I think it`s ludicrous to waste my time, talent,energy and future financial position to seek a career "back home".I`m going for the remaining 98%.Good luck, get "out" while you can !
 

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