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Old 24th January 2000 | 10:46
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Hiya folks,
I'm interested in hearing your opinions and stories as pilots about life up North, socially and workwise. Some people I have talked to say it was best time of their life while others describe it as a prison sentence.
I look forward to your responses
 
Old 25th January 2000 | 05:36
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Time of my life? Well, nope. But it sure wasn't a prison sentence either. Being from southwestern B.C. I was absolutely petrified about going somewhere where it doesn't rain in the winter (just like most other southern B.C.ians). I found the Yukon to be cold, but not uncomfortably so. Lots of flying, but flying over some of the most fantastic scenery doing so-- I must have flown with an awestruck look on my face the first two months-- I filled up 3 photo albums in one summer! Heard horror stories about the North being horribly expensive but I thought the Yukon was reasonable-- car insurance was dirt cheap and groceries reasonable-- gas was pricy and so was Northwest Tel! Like anything the memories get better as time goes on-- would love to take the wife up on a vacation there-- even toyed with the idea of trying to get a flying job up there again-- but I wonder how the wife (who is from down south-- way down south (20 degrees celcius is cold for her) would take it????
 
Old 25th January 2000 | 10:04
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God, I just loved it up north. Shure, sometimes it was miserable getting going in the morning at 30-35 below but at least the flying was great besides, when your well dressed for it, it's not that bad. I really miss it sometimes but then I just have to remember the freight weeks (everyone had to do a week of cargo on the mighty 748 jetprop wisperliner every month) and that feeling of nostalgia just vanishes... ... ...AAaaah!

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Old 25th January 2000 | 22:34
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After my first contract there in the seventies, I had tears in my eyes when I looked one last time at Kluane Lake from a rise before returning south for the winter. The scenery is that magnificent. I have never lost my love for the arctic since. Even though my principal residence is now in the Southern Caribbean , I still go up there at every opportunity. Two years ago I spent the summer in the NWT. Now I am once again fishing for a way to spend next summer up there. If you love flying, you'll love the North. If flying is just a way to make a living for you, you have my condolances and might as well not bother.
 
Old 26th January 2000 | 04:59
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Best time-no, prison sentence-no.

Life is what you make it, it's a damn good learning experience-you'll find out what kind of pilot you are. But on the downside the social life isn't very social at all-usually just shop talk with others like yourself.

Try it, you'll never know until you do.

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Old 26th January 2000 | 11:06
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It was the North where I found my first flying job. Well..I agree with Bush Driver..Prison sentence-NO, Time of my life-NO. But you must realize you are there for a reason and that is to build your flying experience and learn!

My time up there really asked myself how much do I want to fly?--BAD! And you just learn so much about yourself and the people around you. Just go stay around the reserves--I guarantee you that the reserves are not only an eye catcher but also educational!! It ALL boils down to ATTITUDE...how do you look at things and what you want to get out of it.

Hell I didn't know what the heck a "walleye" was before I got up there but I was lucky enough to have a boss that taught me invaluable bush lessons. I say if you are unsure whether the bush is for you, STILL take shot at it and if it doesn't work out, heck..at least you've made an attempt to try to live up north. Either way, you'll gain some knowledge of anything you see up there!
Go and learn and have an open mind!

Good Luck!

"If you don't break anything, you must be doing something right!"
 
Old 27th January 2000 | 15:44
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A Walleye??????.....Are you American or something??????? Us Canadians call 'em pickerals!!!! And by the way....you may not appreciate the north as much now...but your visions will change flying pax from Toronto to Miami 24-7. You'll see!!

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Old 30th January 2000 | 22:31
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I've been in both nwt and the yukon now for a year and a half and plan on staying much longer as it is simply the best, especially the yukon - although we could definitely lose the ndp gov't!! Have no aching erge to go south and the weather has been great. Only a couple weeks of -40C so far this year.
 
Old 30th January 2000 | 22:34
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p.s.
learn alot going into Dawson and Faro at night doing the NDB circling approaches rather than going from ils to ils.
 
Old 31st January 2000 | 08:12
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Hi Turboprops,
I just read an article about Dawson in "Up Here" magazine this month, it sounds like nice place, is there much aviation there?
 
Old 1st February 2000 | 02:21
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Hi Turboprop are you working for Alcan or Air north?
 
Old 1st February 2000 | 10:55
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Dawson has a couple of local operators from what I know. Pretty quiet there like most of the yukon unfortunately. Tourism, forestry and gov't work keeps those operators that survived running. Nice town though. Summer time the Diamond Tooth Gerdie's, a gambling hall/bar, is fun.
Metrohead - I'm with alkan. U with west ex?
 
Old 2nd February 2000 | 08:27
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Im with Vision Air Turboprop we had to fill in for WestEX back in dec when they lost an engine on the way to whitehorse of course we then lost a starter/generator and had to spend the weekend up there had alot of fun in the bars, used to fly out of Faro for Colman, Oh ya is a blond girl named Sylvia working for you guys if so tell her Al says Hi.
 
Old 4th February 2000 | 02:59
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I'll let her know. She's off south now however to alberta. Usually keep in touch with her through icq.
 
Old 4th February 2000 | 23:00
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Thanks!
 
Old 6th February 2000 | 03:22
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hey guys


Any one knows how much flying a pilot does on average up north ?

I am thinking on getting my float rating and heading up north.

Thanks
 
Old 8th March 2000 | 15:14
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After Two years in Africa sunny caribeen with
a big blue see around sounds a real treat !

Anyway there some ups and down in any place. And at the end of the day flying is just
what really matters.

I've got 1000, 200 on BE55, FAA CPL IR and
struggling a bit to get hours all year round.

If you guys had any idea of where i could
fly twins for a full time job, i'd appreciate.

P.S.: This is JAR conversion thing is driving me creasy.
 
Old 9th March 2000 | 23:25
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Hey fellow aviators, was this thread not first opened a few months ago?

And the response above, does anyone have a list of operators throughout the north, equipment operated etc? Or does anyone know where one might find that info?

I'm currently living in New Zealand, but I grew up in Edmonton, did a few visits up to Inuvik in about 86, thought the place was amazing, just the vastness of it all, takes your breath away. A buddy of mine, another New Zealander was flying up north, did about a year and is now on F28's out of Toronto. So it sounds like a good place to build hours and have a great time. This guy loved it up there, said the scenery is like nothing else on earth.

Thanks for the replys everyone
 
Old 12th March 2000 | 05:59
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Hi,

Depends how far north you mean...

I have been flying medevacs out of Churchill, Manitoba for the past 6 months and really have enjoyed the challenging flying and weather. Xmas day we were shut down with winds gusting to 80 kts and total whiteout.

If you love raw flying, 90% non precision approaches, low ceilings, low vis, and big crosswinds then the arctic is for you. :-)

Personally I love it and Churchill isn't a bad place at all...even has an indoor artificial ice arena!

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Old 12th March 2000 | 06:04
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Hey nosegear...

You talking about Brian H. who flew out of Churchill and Rankin Inlet for Keewatin Air?



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