AC Jazz
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Canada
And on and on it goes.... The old Rodney Dangerfield complex...
This is a quote from a CBC article...
"Travel used to be a rather elegant way to spend your day, and now it's ... just a really fast bus."
Now, what does that make the flight crew...
In all fairness, here is a link to the article, so you can see what drove the statement... Not as bad as it sounds...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ood051103.html
This is a quote from a CBC article...
"Travel used to be a rather elegant way to spend your day, and now it's ... just a really fast bus."
Now, what does that make the flight crew...
In all fairness, here is a link to the article, so you can see what drove the statement... Not as bad as it sounds...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ood051103.html
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 12
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From: canada
Hey BusTie,
You talka my kinda language. I went overseas as soon as school got out, and never looked back. Its embarassing what WJ and Jazz pay their guys to start.
Did you have a type rating? What sort of mins is NAS looking for?
Any help would be most appreciated...
Muchos Gracias Amigo
You talka my kinda language. I went overseas as soon as school got out, and never looked back. Its embarassing what WJ and Jazz pay their guys to start.
Did you have a type rating? What sort of mins is NAS looking for?
Any help would be most appreciated...
Muchos Gracias Amigo
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: World Traveller
Totally agree ... Thats why I left.
Is living in the sandbox for everyone .... Absolutely not. I struggled a long time between living in Canada and the allure of tax free money and a secure ( VERY secure flying job ). I went through two different Airline Bankruptcies in Canada and dont think I could have done another one.
If you can come to the Middle East with ' A Plan ' and stick to it, you can go home to retire quite comfortably. Hope to head back to Canada to retire in 15 years, buy a Pitts Special and fly only for fun.
Have fun
FB519
Is living in the sandbox for everyone .... Absolutely not. I struggled a long time between living in Canada and the allure of tax free money and a secure ( VERY secure flying job ). I went through two different Airline Bankruptcies in Canada and dont think I could have done another one.
If you can come to the Middle East with ' A Plan ' and stick to it, you can go home to retire quite comfortably. Hope to head back to Canada to retire in 15 years, buy a Pitts Special and fly only for fun.
Have fun
FB519
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: albion gwaine
UK now
Moved to the UK over a year ago, sick of no schedules, terrible pay, 3 weeks holidays.
In the UK now, employed starting salary 118 000 canadian right seat, 7 weeks holidays to start, medical dental, full roster stability, cant change by more than 2 hours... Company buy back your days off for 800 canadian, if you work over a midnight its 1600 canadian....
Best thing I ever did was leave aviation in Canada, even though I do miss the great white north..
csf
In the UK now, employed starting salary 118 000 canadian right seat, 7 weeks holidays to start, medical dental, full roster stability, cant change by more than 2 hours... Company buy back your days off for 800 canadian, if you work over a midnight its 1600 canadian....
Best thing I ever did was leave aviation in Canada, even though I do miss the great white north..
csf
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: toronto
Why would you even consider AC Jazz,
Poverty line pay,
High Canadian tax,
Very long time to move to main line,
Once at mainline 20 years to command
Chances of mainline going bamkrupt again within those 20 years, 100%
Try something else
Poverty line pay,
High Canadian tax,
Very long time to move to main line,
Once at mainline 20 years to command
Chances of mainline going bamkrupt again within those 20 years, 100%
Try something else
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 69
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From: Canada
40% of nothing = Nothing
It's all okay dud. Stay in Ooo Cana..daw land because I need someone to fly me back home on my 52 days with full pay holidays.
for your info: just my lost of license insurance here in the sandbox is over $250,000 USD.
Try to explain that to your EI officer when you get back on the street after giving a life with a major flag career in Canada.
Insurance in ME $250K USD
Insurance in Cad..... 40% of nothing (for 13 weeks)
Aviation out of Canada.......Priceless
It's all okay dud. Stay in Ooo Cana..daw land because I need someone to fly me back home on my 52 days with full pay holidays.
for your info: just my lost of license insurance here in the sandbox is over $250,000 USD.
Try to explain that to your EI officer when you get back on the street after giving a life with a major flag career in Canada.
Insurance in ME $250K USD
Insurance in Cad..... 40% of nothing (for 13 weeks)
Aviation out of Canada.......Priceless
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 69
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From: Canada
What do you want, a f&cking medal??? If you want to brag about how well you think you have it why don't you save it for the girls in the bars...they might give a !!!!!...that's until they see that you are mostly eating it. 
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: canada
Current captain are leaving with just over 100$ makes they pension @ over 50K a year depending the years of service, add they CCP plus any personal investment they may have, they should be in the 80K . Not as bad as it sounds after all....If you work overseas, make sure that you are saving and investing in safe place for the days you come home.
By the way with Jazz we cross one, maybe 2 time zones, live your dream… I'm facing reality....
By the way with Jazz we cross one, maybe 2 time zones, live your dream… I'm facing reality....
Last edited by bzh; 7th December 2005 at 00:55.
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: frozen place
Time to command at Air Canada is 6 years on the last bid and with the results of the current bid it is said by the company that guys from furlough last year can hold command....so 4 years to command,not 20 as previously stated.
Bustie..........your loss of license coverage of 250k $ in the sandbox is a onetime payment....not as good as getting 60% of your pay until you are 60 like at AC....although enough to maybe get you through a few years without working.
Bustie..........your loss of license coverage of 250k $ in the sandbox is a onetime payment....not as good as getting 60% of your pay until you are 60 like at AC....although enough to maybe get you through a few years without working.
Joined: Jan 2004
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From: canada
It's all okay dud. Stay in Ooo Cana..daw land because I need someone to fly me back home on my 52 days with full pay holidays.
Joined: Nov 1998
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chockstarfish,
ive been in the uk for 10 years now. glad youre enjoying it. i got out of Canada when my 'colleagues' started buying their own type ratings and flying for free. nice. cant compete with prostitution......and the taxes...yikes.
Canada might be a nice place to live, its sure not a nice place to work (as a pilot).
Cheers
First Choice Airways
ive been in the uk for 10 years now. glad youre enjoying it. i got out of Canada when my 'colleagues' started buying their own type ratings and flying for free. nice. cant compete with prostitution......and the taxes...yikes.
Canada might be a nice place to live, its sure not a nice place to work (as a pilot).
Cheers
First Choice Airways
