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The ACPA people claim that you make 70% of your best three year's salary. Take it for what it's worth. But I think everyone is missing the big picture. I don't know many places where you can retire with a pension of 100k/yr. plus. At least not in aviation in the great white north. You also have to consider that in your last few years of service, your salary has been close if not more than 200k per year probably allowing you to build a nice little nestegg. And the few years prior to that you were probably making over 100k a yr. too. You get the idea. If you're looking for a get rich quick scheme, you're in the wrong part of the world.
29chev. If I'm not mistaken, the company gives you only a couple of chances at coming back. They won't wait forever. I think most LOA's will be coming back shortly.
On the question of the 340's, I haven't heard anything. But stay tuned next month for a possible announcement on the 777.
29chev. If I'm not mistaken, the company gives you only a couple of chances at coming back. They won't wait forever. I think most LOA's will be coming back shortly.
On the question of the 340's, I haven't heard anything. But stay tuned next month for a possible announcement on the 777.
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brucelee,
As it turns out I'm on a LOA with AC and won't be back until next year and I know of several more who have LOA's out to as far as 2008. I think your confusing LOA and furlough, furlough we could pypass until everyone below us was back and then we had to come or request and get approved for a LOA the LOA is what ever was agreed on between you and the company.
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I look forward to the 777 news........mmmmmmm
As it turns out I'm on a LOA with AC and won't be back until next year and I know of several more who have LOA's out to as far as 2008. I think your confusing LOA and furlough, furlough we could pypass until everyone below us was back and then we had to come or request and get approved for a LOA the LOA is what ever was agreed on between you and the company.
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I look forward to the 777 news........mmmmmmm
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29chev.
You're right, it is the furlough scenario I was refering to. For some reason though, I thought the company had sent out letters to anyone who was gone. Must of heard it in the crew room. At any rate, next months' bid should see the RJ's gone and 777 in. Bet that will bring some people back to the nest.
You're right, it is the furlough scenario I was refering to. For some reason though, I thought the company had sent out letters to anyone who was gone. Must of heard it in the crew room. At any rate, next months' bid should see the RJ's gone and 777 in. Bet that will bring some people back to the nest.
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Brucelee,
Sounds like good news.please do tell more..............where did you hear that 777's are on the bid?How many, how much growth and all that good stuff......
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Meaw
29chev,
just curious as to where you are flying on your LOA, are you enjoying it, planning to come back
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Sounds like good news.please do tell more..............where did you hear that 777's are on the bid?How many, how much growth and all that good stuff......
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Meaw
29chev,
just curious as to where you are flying on your LOA, are you enjoying it, planning to come back
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Management's well kept secret is out, maybe intentionally. I have heard this from many pilots. Caution though, no official statement from God yet. We won't see that untill the bid is out. The 777 order is still on the table subject to ratification (again) but this time there just may be enough yes votes. Something about a seniority solution
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I will believe it when I see it though.
.I will believe it when I see it though.
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http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1127515982.html
So its now official brucelee,
you said that the bid will be coming out next month, does that mean that a vote will happen and pending the outcome a new deal made with Boeing will all occur in 30 days?
sounds pretty quick to me
thanks in advance for the reply!
So its now official brucelee,
you said that the bid will be coming out next month, does that mean that a vote will happen and pending the outcome a new deal made with Boeing will all occur in 30 days?
sounds pretty quick to me
thanks in advance for the reply!
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The company has until the end of the year to put out a new bid but rumor has it they want the 777 agreement signed asap. The target is to have a bid out by the end of Oct. Sounds pretty quick to me too. Same old story though, no seniority solution, no agreement. Lots of work to be done. Personally, I am confident things will work out. It just may take longer than what's planned.
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I have read so many responses about living in various parts of Asia in the various forums, I am curious, from a "Canadian" perspective, what are the "pitfalls" of living in Asia??
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Same old story though, no seniority solution, no agreement. Lots of work to be done.
There will be an arbitrated solution to the B777/B787 agreement.
Then as a separate issue there will be mediation on the seniority problem. It will be a rather pointless mediation because ALPA who still represents the original Canadian Airlines pilots, has said they will not take part. How do you have mediation when one side is not there? The out come of this mediation will then be reviewed by the CIRB and it is going to be pretty difficult to convince the CIRB that what has happened over the last 6 years has to be totally scrapped and they need to start all over again.
So the pilots at Air Canada will be forced to take more concessions and they seniority issues will still not be resolved.
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I should have been more clear...parts of Asia suck parts are great I'm not in a position to say which are which right now....short list: too many people in too small of an area with lots of pollution, and as it turns out I'm not as adaptable as I thought I would be to dramatic cultural differences.
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Yes, you are correct about the arbitration process with regards to the 777. But will we still not have to have a vote on that solution? I'm not sure how that process works. Why is it that they can ram that one down our throats, but not a fair seniority solution? Also, if as you say, the seniority issue cannot be resolved, I fear there will be more NO votes in the future.
If the other side doesn't show up, there may not be a solution. However, when ACPA pulled the same stunt, the process continued anyway. I believe this issue is too important to leave as is. If the other side doesn't show up, they just might have to accept the outcome. M.Tepletski knows full well what another NO vote means. In fact, the no vote might be the least of our problems. Strike action comes to mind. That would be an interesting scenario. Some would, some wouldn't. So I guess, no solution, no peace. It's all up to the CIRB.
Yes, you are correct about the arbitration process with regards to the 777. But will we still not have to have a vote on that solution? I'm not sure how that process works. Why is it that they can ram that one down our throats, but not a fair seniority solution? Also, if as you say, the seniority issue cannot be resolved, I fear there will be more NO votes in the future.
If the other side doesn't show up, there may not be a solution. However, when ACPA pulled the same stunt, the process continued anyway. I believe this issue is too important to leave as is. If the other side doesn't show up, they just might have to accept the outcome. M.Tepletski knows full well what another NO vote means. In fact, the no vote might be the least of our problems. Strike action comes to mind. That would be an interesting scenario. Some would, some wouldn't. So I guess, no solution, no peace. It's all up to the CIRB.
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Hi check this out for some more interview info
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When the 777 agrement was voted down it should have ended there. The ACPA contract has provisions for the introduction of new aircraft. Failing agreement on both sides the issue goes to binding arbitration. The reason it had to be voted on last time, was because it went beyond the scope of the contract in asking for further concessions.
Air Canada should just order the aircraft they want and let the contract work as it always had before with new aircraft introductions.
But now it looks like ACPA has agreed to binding arbitration on a new concessionary 777/787 agreement without a chance for a vote by the membership.
In effect they have accepted concessions for the entire pilot group merely on the chance that there may be some improvement in seniority for the Original Air Canada pilots.
It seems to be a long shot gamble and I don't really understand why the seniority issue has to be tied to further concessions.
This whole thing is a mess.
At this point I wish ACPA would just go away and we could start all over again with CAW, IAM or even (God forbid) ALPA.
Air Canada should just order the aircraft they want and let the contract work as it always had before with new aircraft introductions.
But now it looks like ACPA has agreed to binding arbitration on a new concessionary 777/787 agreement without a chance for a vote by the membership.
In effect they have accepted concessions for the entire pilot group merely on the chance that there may be some improvement in seniority for the Original Air Canada pilots.
It seems to be a long shot gamble and I don't really understand why the seniority issue has to be tied to further concessions.
This whole thing is a mess.
At this point I wish ACPA would just go away and we could start all over again with CAW, IAM or even (God forbid) ALPA.
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Uncle Milty named as a member of the board of directors of US Airways
.Air Canada chairman Robert Milton has been named to the board of US Airways Group Inc. after the Canadian carrier's parent company completed its $75-million (U.S.) investment in the American airline yesterday.
Mr. Milton said his new role as a director at US Airways of Arlington, Va., which merged with Tempe, Ariz.-based America West Holdings Corp. -- solidifies Air Canada's partnership in the combined U.S. carrier.
In May, Air Canada's parent, ACE Aviation Holdings Inc., announced it would become a 7-per-cent equity owner in the merged US Airways-America West entity.
Shares in the newly expanded US Airways began trading yesterday on the New York Stock Exchange, closing at $19.30, down from its intraday high of $21.40.
Although US Airways is a so-called legacy airline, it chose the ticker symbol LCC to usher in a new era as a low-cost carrier.
"Our business model will enable us to compete aggressively with any airline, legacy or low-cost, in terms of reliability, amenities and affordability," US Airways chairman and chief executive officer Doug Parker said in a statement yesterday.
The aviation marriage brings US Airways out of bankruptcy court protection and creates the fifth-largest domestic carrier in the United States, Mr. Parker said.
Mr. Milton added that Air Canada passengers will benefit from his airline being in the Star Alliance along with US Airways.
Air Canada, which itself emerged from bankruptcy protection on Sept. 30, 2004, is keen to scoop up connecting U.S. passengers at western regional terminals such as Phoenix and Las Vegas, promoting Asian destinations through Vancouver International Airport.
One of the highlights of the transaction is Air Canada Technical Services' five-year, $1.5-billion (Canadian) aircraft maintenance and overhaul contract for US Airways.
"We expect to see an acceleration of, and increasing growth in, the work that ACTS does for the new carrier," ACTS president William Zoeller said in a statement.
Mr. Zoeller said the finishing touches are being put on final maintenance contracts.
ACTS is scheduled to perform heavy maintenance on US Airways' Airbus A330 aircraft starting Sunday, as well as work in the future on various Airbus and Boeing models.
Still doing heavy mtce for Delta.
.Air Canada chairman Robert Milton has been named to the board of US Airways Group Inc. after the Canadian carrier's parent company completed its $75-million (U.S.) investment in the American airline yesterday.
Mr. Milton said his new role as a director at US Airways of Arlington, Va., which merged with Tempe, Ariz.-based America West Holdings Corp. -- solidifies Air Canada's partnership in the combined U.S. carrier.
In May, Air Canada's parent, ACE Aviation Holdings Inc., announced it would become a 7-per-cent equity owner in the merged US Airways-America West entity.
Shares in the newly expanded US Airways began trading yesterday on the New York Stock Exchange, closing at $19.30, down from its intraday high of $21.40.
Although US Airways is a so-called legacy airline, it chose the ticker symbol LCC to usher in a new era as a low-cost carrier.
"Our business model will enable us to compete aggressively with any airline, legacy or low-cost, in terms of reliability, amenities and affordability," US Airways chairman and chief executive officer Doug Parker said in a statement yesterday.
The aviation marriage brings US Airways out of bankruptcy court protection and creates the fifth-largest domestic carrier in the United States, Mr. Parker said.
Mr. Milton added that Air Canada passengers will benefit from his airline being in the Star Alliance along with US Airways.
Air Canada, which itself emerged from bankruptcy protection on Sept. 30, 2004, is keen to scoop up connecting U.S. passengers at western regional terminals such as Phoenix and Las Vegas, promoting Asian destinations through Vancouver International Airport.
One of the highlights of the transaction is Air Canada Technical Services' five-year, $1.5-billion (Canadian) aircraft maintenance and overhaul contract for US Airways.
"We expect to see an acceleration of, and increasing growth in, the work that ACTS does for the new carrier," ACTS president William Zoeller said in a statement.
Mr. Zoeller said the finishing touches are being put on final maintenance contracts.
ACTS is scheduled to perform heavy maintenance on US Airways' Airbus A330 aircraft starting Sunday, as well as work in the future on various Airbus and Boeing models.
Still doing heavy mtce for Delta.
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more directors fees for Milty...
anyhoo - going back to a way previous post, meaw mentioned no 320s going but the AC annual report did indicate a reduction in the 32x fleet over the next couple of years - this was pre the collapse of jetsgo so maybe things have changed?
anyhoo - going back to a way previous post, meaw mentioned no 320s going but the AC annual report did indicate a reduction in the 32x fleet over the next couple of years - this was pre the collapse of jetsgo so maybe things have changed?
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Drageraser,
A round-trip pass within canada will cost you about 30$ Canadian, or around 23$ U.S.
To the States it's more because you have to pay the U.S immigration tax, security tax etc...and that will come out to about 50$ CAD or 40 US$ a round trip.
I just used one to Europe and that will set you back about 60$ CAD on taxes.For Asia and the Middle East it varies on the local country's taxes but you will probably not have to pay more than 80-100 $ CAD anywhere.
A round-trip pass within canada will cost you about 30$ Canadian, or around 23$ U.S.
To the States it's more because you have to pay the U.S immigration tax, security tax etc...and that will come out to about 50$ CAD or 40 US$ a round trip.
I just used one to Europe and that will set you back about 60$ CAD on taxes.For Asia and the Middle East it varies on the local country's taxes but you will probably not have to pay more than 80-100 $ CAD anywhere.
