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joshmist03 30th May 2008 15:39

Dual Rated
 
Yes as of the present, we have worked over 5 weeks and have nothing to show for it. The Flight deck and head office got paid on the 25th, the crew....should have been paid today, but that wont materialise. Its now up to the administrators (If they have an ounce on compassion) to make crew salaries a priority but im not holding my breath.

Thanks to all who have posted messages of support and respect to Lawrence Hunt our fab CEO who fought tooth and nail for us and his baby.
I have never met such a genuine and hard working gent.

As for us the Ex crew of Silverjet, weve all been supporting each other, the shock comes in waves and then it hits you....the mortgage payments.....the car loan.......the £17 meal i had in new york......the council tax and so on.

DivingDiva 30th May 2008 16:38

I am so sorry...I know these words will be said over and over and almost lose meaning, but I have been in your situation and "sucks" doesn't come close to whats been lost.

I have only just got home and seen some details but to attempt to put a positive on a very negative is that the company has brought in administrators, not filed for insolvency. For those who dont understand the difference, insolvency/bankruptcy is the final end when a company believe there is no salvaging it and they close doors whereas administrators are people employed to assess the business and whether or not they can trade the business back on track.

I hope Silverjet can be salvaged but to those who are now left wondering what to do - my heart goes out to you all!

Abby x

EzyChic 30th May 2008 18:12

I'm really sorry guys,

wish everyone the best of luck for the future.

Ezy

flightlevelchange 30th May 2008 19:11

Sorry to hear the news this morning,

Hope it all works out for you, from a fellow cabin crew member, was a fantastic service did enjoy it on a recent trip to dubai and was hoping to re book for later on this year

All the best of luck, hope to see the SilverJet Flying again soon

FLC

Virginia 30th May 2008 19:20

Can't say I was shocked but I really feel for the SJ staff. :( Must be terrible. Unfortunately in these times, they will not be the last to be made redundant.

What's going to happen to the 3 aircraft?

Pswinny 31st May 2008 10:34

I would just like to say how sad I'm feeling right now for the workers of SJ, i know quite a few cabin crew and ops guys who work their hardest every day.

Hope a resolution can come soon, by means of another airline buyout, and you guys can once again trade under the Silverjet name.

All the best.... :sad:

The Real Slim Shady 1st June 2008 10:26

The statement on the website talks about refinancing and recommencing operation.

Given the way you have apparently been singled out for non payment of salary would any of you go back?

stansdead 1st June 2008 15:51

It won't rise from the Ashes. You MUST move on and move up.

Good luck in getting paid. I hope they sort you out quickly.

ptc 1st June 2008 16:08

From the Silverjet website

To our dear customers,
When our inaugural flight took off in January 2007, we pledged to change the face of air travel. Your appreciation of our unique values and your belief in our product has allowed us to achieve this.
Your belief in us was shared by our investors - but regrettably, due to unforeseen circumstances, they were unable to unlock the finance that we needed. As a result, we are very sad to announce that from 30 May 2008, we will cease operations and we are no longer able to honour flight reservations.
We extend our sincerest apologies to those of you who have travel plans with Silverjet in the future and at present. You are advised to seek alternative travel arrangements with other carriers, and contact your credit card company or travel agent directly for information on obtaining refunds.
We are working actively with new investors who are prepared to inject new funds so we can recommence operations. If we are able to achieve this, we will make an announcement as soon as possible and we hope to be able to bring you our very 'sivilised' flying experience again.
Thank you for your support - it has meant everything.
Yours sincerely,

http://www.flysilverjet.com/images/lhsig.jpg

Lawrence Hunt, CEO







Seems fairly final to me!

AdamLT 1st June 2008 19:25

A real shame to hear about the close of the company.
But great to see one of their pilots flying a de Havilland Vampire at RAF Cosford today..and looked like he enjoyed every minute of it :)

av8rboyz 1st June 2008 21:38

Yes great to see him enjoy his weekend seeing that the flight crew have been paid this month. Im sure the cabin crew went out clubbing and had a great weekend too, aaaahhhhh wait a minute the cabin crew a'int been paid!!!!!
Oh I do hope he enjoyed the ride cos the cabin crew are lovin it!
Thanks for that!

NutLoose 2nd June 2008 01:00


Its now up to the administrators (If they have an ounce on compassion) to make crew salaries a priority but im not holding my breath.

Actually I do believe staff are at the top of the pile though you will not get the full amount, indeed far from it. :(

flygirl28 2nd June 2008 12:38

I agree with BOB that it was just a matter of dates HOWEVER for pay to be credited to crew accounts it would of had to of been sent by the company on Tuesday......this gave SJ three days to tell the crew that it hadnt and allow them to make contingency plans.

The fact remains that the crew have lived and breathed the brand values for 18 months now and the one that particularly stands out at this moment is INTEGRITY....and as far as i and many others are concerned the company acted with none at all.

The real shame of it all is that every single one of the crew would of fought for the company, because they truly believed in it, now as BOB quite rightly said, why should they?

BestonBoard 2nd June 2008 14:36

Hi Flygirl,
I think you may have misinterpreted what I posted. I will still be fighting Silverjets corner, until I am told that there is no corner to fight for...

I'm still backing us 110%

flygirl28 2nd June 2008 15:42

Sorry BOB i did misinterpret part of your post...apologies.

I'm not anti SJ either, and i applaud the fact that you are remaining so positive. Unfortunately, positive is not going to pay the bills this month or next month or the month after that.

I like many others feel entirely let down...admittedly some of the disappointment could not be helped, but the fact remains that some could. Its disgusting that employees found out from a news report that the administrators had been called in rather than via the company they had worked so loyally to build. Its also disgusting that nobody was pre warned about non payment of salaries. The final kick in the teeth is that no one can claim dole as we have not been told we are officially redundant.

I loved that company and the people as did so many others and so wanted it to succeed, i still want it to succeed, but realistically its a huge mountain to climb...my hat is off to you for wanting to climb it, but most cant afford the wait.

Potential 3rd June 2008 01:20


We have a heartbeat to work on, we have a pulse to revive... We have a soul to save!
I just hope the green light is flashing on Begbies Traynor's corporate defibrillator...

tash55 3rd June 2008 05:44

Bestonboard! I truly admire your allegiance to Silverjet. However PLEASE wake-up and smell the coffee. This is a TUFF industry and at the end of the day, loyalty and sentiment won't pay your bills at the end of the month! Bite the bullet and come and join the BIG BOYS for Job securityl You get the BEST of both worlds. It's STILL OK to be equally PASSIONATE about the job you do AS CREW!!! Silverjet had you hook line and sinker in that their recruitment spec was above and beyond and that you are something that you are not. A quick reality check is that CREW are CREW!!, whatever airline you work for!!! I wish you ALL the very best.

The Real Slim Shady 3rd June 2008 09:06

The people who would invest in SJ now are asset strippers - that is of course if the company has any assets worth stripping.

The brand is destroyed in the eyes of the customer and the trust and confidence of the crew must have evaporated.

SJ would need a 3 month intensive marketing campaign to get any seat sales which would put the "relaunch" date back until late August, way too late to pick up significant business and then one is back in to the low season until next March.

It simply is not viable.

You're fired.

EverythingSilver 3rd June 2008 09:20

Mr Sugar
You can not fire me as I am out of a job!

boredcounter 3rd June 2008 10:01

Sad to see any airline go,
 
SilverJet had many a Pilot from my company. (Sorry, we do not have Cabin Crew).

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/economi...itor/index.htm

Speaks volumes as to how the initial budget got screwed, big time. JetA1 has got to be the biggest variable.


The spin was fantastic, even staff yet to join believed it, sold it to the man in the street to invest.

hate to say this to the Silverised posters, move on, as quickly as poss, get an income, your duty is to yourselves.


Good luck to you all, been there 3 times.

flygirl28 3rd June 2008 10:13

[FONT="Trebuchet MS"]I truly admire the passion being shown for Silverjet by its crew, if passion could save this airline from becoming yet another aviation statistic Silverjet would be a true easter story!

The fact remains that no matter how you spin this the analysts are right. Even if a buyer is found the airline will probably be rebranded, redundancies will be made and it will never be the same as before.

In realistic terms the writing is most definitely on the wall and as much as it saddens me to say it, all of us now need to move forward, find jobs and pay the bills. Unless a buyer is found (and even then you may have a wait for payment) you could be waiting months to be paid outstanding monies and even then will possibly not get everything that it owing...

I salute your loyalty i really do and if staying so loyal helps you sleep at night, so be it....money in my bank account and a regular income will help me sleep better at the moment.

flygirl28 3rd June 2008 11:10

Everything silver - i dont think anyone is suggesting that the people who remain in the office are not doing a fantastic job. What you seem to forget is that the people in the office got paid on the 25th and so have a month in hand if you like to find alternative employment before their money runs out!

"Staff are assisting CC job applications/references etc. Again would you rather they forgot the staff that have worked unpaid and went off and took the offers they have with no thought for those unfortunate others."

Just re read your statement above again.....could you really blame anybody at this moment in time for looking after themselves given the circumstances? The office staff are in the same position as everyone else....if a buyer is not found they are out of jobs also....if they have job offers to go to, they would be mad like anyone else would be to turn them down given the current situation.

cldrvr 3rd June 2008 11:34

You guys sure are loyal to an operator that will not pay you. Do you really think SJ will arise from the ashes? Silverjet does not own its aircraft, they are leased, it will take millions to secure the airframes for a few months, the lease company are no fools. The AOC has been suspended and will take months to resurrect. The pilots, who incidently have been paid are walking en masse. How do you think that a few people running around the offices clasping at straws are going to be able to find the 10-15 million to start operating for a few months if Viceroy was unwilling to invest in the continuation of the business. AIM has suspended the trading and will want reassurances before trading resumes.

Wake up guys, it will take a miracle to start this up again, oh and 15 million pounds.

The directors have no say in any of this, the administrator is in charge.

The Real Slim Shady 3rd June 2008 13:11

Silverjet people

Go and get another job.

Loyalty is a one way street: you have been shafted.

Look after No 1 now.

Been there, seen it, stood in the dole queue.

legoland 3rd June 2008 15:43

BOB.

I have to agree with some that have said you should move on, i do not think SJ will rise out of the ashes like a great silver pheonix.
B.O.B stated our customers are our primary concern so they arrive refreshed without knowing they have boarded an aircraft, may i say for most crew SAFETY is their primary concern for the CUSTOMERS

unfortunately i was around when FJE were wound up and i can tell you the way your precious directors treated the FJE crew was less than civilised, so if i were you i would move on. Mind you i know a lot of SJ crew who thought FJE crew were below them:= this included the directors. But we moved on and got our lives back on track, even though we had to fight to get our redundancy payments, unfortunately for you guys as you have not been there for 2 years your not legaly entiteled to redundancy.
I am also sure that many of the crew are not in the position to just wait to see what happens.

But i do feel sorry for all those out of a job, but have to say i am not surprised, esp with the economy in flux at the moment.

banewboi 3rd June 2008 16:40

I don't get it....
 
Have SJ crew been brainwashed?

Yes as of the present, we have worked over 5 weeks and have nothing to show for it. The Flight deck and head office got paid on the 25th, the crew....should have been paid today, but that wont materialise.
Thanks to all who have posted messages of support and respect to Lawrence Hunt our fab CEO who fought tooth and nail for us and his baby.

I have never met such a genuine and hard working gent.

You haven't been paid and everyone else has, how is that working hard for "his baby"?

SJ crew, you did your jobs, you turned up and did your portion for a new start airline, but you've been shafted, Unfortunately you haven't weathered the storm and it's only going to get worse.

Unfortunately i think that though the crew were all good crew members i also happen to think that they also recruited those that would swallow the SJ corporate bulls**t easiest, not that this is any reflection on SJ (all the airlines like to cram it down our throats that we're the best) but seriously guys wake up and smell the coffee, for the rest of us the stench is stale.......

flygirl28 3rd June 2008 18:24

banewboiI am Silverjet crew and you will see from my previous posts that although i have loved every minute i have worked for the airline and have lived the brand values, i am in no way brain washed.

I am a realist and i know as well as you that we have been shafted, good and proper. Doesnt matter whether you serve it on a silver platter or a paper plate the outcome will be exactly the same.

Cant knock my colleagues for hanging in there with hope of a resurrection, as i said before if that helps them sleep better at the moment, then so be it....i will just hate to be the one that by the end of the week says "i told you so".


silversky 3rd June 2008 20:35

Someone buy me a drink? Please?
 
Have SJ crew been brainwashed?

Yes as of the present, we have worked over 5 weeks and have nothing to show for it. The Flight deck and head office got paid on the 25th, the crew....should have been paid today, but that wont materialise.
Thanks to all who have posted messages of support and respect to Lawrence Hunt our fab CEO who fought tooth and nail for us and his baby.

I have never met such a genuine and hard working gent.

You haven't been paid and everyone else has, how is that working hard for "his baby"?


*******

Oh Lordy... Couldn't agree with you more!

I've worked with Slugjet from the beginning and YES I commend anyone who takes pride in their work and YES I think it's important to be positive in tough times but WAKE UP! You think Lawrence didn't see this coming? The man buys us all drinks down route and that makes him a "hard working gent". Rubbish.

Granted it's a combination of factors that caused Silverjet to cease operations, but if Lawrence cared as much as he claims to, why did we stop flying the day we were SUPPOSED to get paid? Why doesn't he make those who want to leave redundant so we can get benefits?

The only concrete help and offers for references and new employment has come from the infamous Martyn Bridger who Lawrence sacked a month ago. Maybe you should kiss his arse instead...

Anyone know a good lawyer?

:ugh:

ptc 4th June 2008 15:09

Silverjet has shafted you all good and proper!!

If I were you, id go and get a job with an established airline, and put SJ behind you.

Even if they were to 'rise above the ashes' in the future(very unlikely), do you really want to go back to a company that shafted you over and left you stranded downroute??? Crazy if thats the way you think!!

Sid Starz 4th June 2008 17:11

No crew were "stranded" ptc. A plan was quickly formed to get us home, involving EK and Zoom. Transport was provided from LGW back to LTN and the hotels at EWR & DXB were available too. Often in this scenario crews really are stranded and I'm pleased to say that in this case, we weren't.

legoland 4th June 2008 18:51

Anyone remember UKIA mmmmm they did the same closed down and had dilluded crew working for a while without pay coz they thought it would fly again, it never happened, please dont waste any time on SJ, do you not think that if it does start again passenger confidence has gone, as will the relationships with the airports they flew from and to, in addition the stock market and future investors will not be so quick to risk thier money. As for the investors that have lost alot of money they would more than likely advise against investing.

Sorry but to confused in LTN move on for your own piece of mind.:ugh::ok:

silversky 4th June 2008 18:56

Insult to injury...
 
On the last flight from Dubai back to London, the captain had the displeasure of having to announce to passengers and crew that the airline had gone bust. One passenger's account of this below:

"The hostesses all lined up, they were howling, some of the passengers were in tears. The captain also announced that the hostesses had not been paid for over a month, and they were doing this for free. When we landed, the receivers came on board and took possession of the plane."

http://londonist.com/2008/05/silverjet_final.php

I suspect this closure has been strategically timed to follow what looks like been some jiggery-pokery going on with Silverjet shares. This kind of thing is illegal if it can be proven: issue a press release to increase the value of the shares (or send strange emails to crew about "secret" investors... we all received them) sell when they're at their peak, then announce closure when more investors/little guys have been scammed rendering the shares virtually worthless.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle3723391.ece

banewboi 5th June 2008 01:11

Hi guys,

Just a brief word to say that i genuinely feel for those left high and dry by SJ, but personally i think that's enough.

People are feeling rubbish enough without the likes of us telling them what lemmings they've been.

It may not be nice to hear but please take my post the way it was intended and go forward with a little bit more knowledge about life, the universe and everything aviation.

Wow, i even suprised myself with this much compassion, i thought i signed that over a long time ago.

Peace guys (lol, now i'm a hippy)

Gulfstreamaviator 5th June 2008 05:36

FJE
 
I was also arround for the demise of FJE as an operator.

They treated the crews perfectly.

FLE were perhaps the best corporate operator I have ever worked for, in regard to the crew conditions. In fact they were, IMHO so good thats part of the reason for the change of direction to broering, rather than operating.

I only know SJ from afar, but respect anyone who starts an airline, (tried that too).

glf

King Pong 5th June 2008 05:38

Whatever your views about Silverjet now in the fullness of time you will look back at your time with Silverjet and think they were the best of times.

judder-100 5th June 2008 08:24

sad time's
 
Beston Board

judder-100 5th June 2008 08:28

sad times
 
Beston Board you should really wake up and smell the green tea , you say that you are still behind sj..!! why cos you would,nt get another job like what you had, i believe you would,nt ,time to give up and look for a lap dance-ing job...:D.....plz plz wake up......we all wanted it to work....:ugh:

Tiger 5th June 2008 13:13

Pretty bad the cabin crew weren`t paid, and yet some still "bleat" on the Silverjet band wagon. The airline has gone! If it comes back it will be gone again. Check out Braniff in the US. That airline has had several reincarnations over the years.
Yes you flow to nice destinations, both over subscribed by the majors.
Yes Silverjet had a good customer relations with few complaints, but your market was a limited business/corporate people, and more the budget luxury leisure market, the type who are on a stag do, the big four O. etc. special trip of a life time. I always said it was the wrong product. Others have agreed and disagreed, but I stand by my first thoughts, wrong product. Should have been 2 class cabin. My area Herts Beds Bucks fairly affluent area, know people who went to NY. Firstly most not heard of SJ, and then said a £1000 return fare for a weekend away was bit pricey and opted for VS BA economy or Premium economy.
For those who still hold Silverjet close to your hearts, please let it go. There are other airlines out there, true you may not get your long haul, but if you want to be cabin crew you have to take whats around. Besides at the end of the day we have to pay your bills.

Potential 5th June 2008 14:00

Everyone here is talking as if Silverjet is completely done for. Yes, the company has gone into administration and yes, it has ceased operations for now, but there is still a concerted effort going on behind the scenes to get Silverjet flying again. The administrators have publicly released statements to this effect and remain moderately positive about some form of reincarnation in the very near future.

What non-employees will not be aware of is that the cabin crew are also receiving almost daily updates from the administrators, Lawrence Hunt & the former cabin crew manager on the progress that is being made behind close doors. I'm not going to reveal any details, but the most recent email from Lawrence this morning is very promising. :ok:

I am aware that Silverjet remains in an extremely perilous position, but its too early to talk about it in the past tense yet. Its not over until the fat lady sings and she hasn't even learned the chorus yet...

Carnage Matey! 5th June 2008 14:03

Face facts. Nobody is going to risk their money and travel plans buying a ticket on Silverjet. Silverjet has never made a profit, the oil price that crippled them continues to trend upwards. Only a fool would invest in the company. It's over.


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