tiggerific_69

Be interesting to share with us what the Welcome to Flybe course consists of and what you do on it.

So keep us posted and let us know.

I've got mine tomorrow!

Let us know how it goes and what they say ect.
Be interesting to see what has changed since I was there

Jersey Crew And Other Flybe Crew
 

Hi there folks,

Just a shout out to any JER crew on here.
Basically trying to catch up on old work colleges.

I was based in JER from 1999 to 2004.

So if you were based in JER during that time, or know any of the crew still there that have been at flybe within those 6 years. Please say hello, would love to catch up with some of you I know.

Either Post on here or send me a private meesage.

Hopefully speak soon

Adam

Sad Day at Brum.
 

Just taking a moment to reflect folks, as yesterday 19th was a sad day at Brum cos our oldest Performance Manager Ian Mackenzie, who opened up the BA base in 1972, finally took early retirement. He was a nice guy and looked after so many of us with problems, using good humour, compassion and his long expereince to resolve our problems and made us feel special. I know he reads prune as we have spoken about it, so I hope you have a long and happy retirement mate.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

As for uniforms, loads have arrived, so it looks like we will all be in red next Sunday. The Welcome to Flybe course is OK, looking at the obcs, drills for catering, uniform regs etc. You get back what you put in, I sort of enjoyed that.

Rosters are out, I hear there are some 'drive yourself to SOU, operate 4 sectors' type trips! What's that all about, a 4 hour drive then operate!!!!!????? If I get one and they don't supply MT I shall be filling out a 'chirps' form I can tell you, can't be safe can it? I do that run to the coast to visit friends, its a nightmare at the best of times, can't imagine driving it then flogging up to LBA then CDG! Wonder what Ian Mac would think about that! :=

What's this on the pilots thread about ryanair opening a base in BRS? Anyone heard anything? Still mad at flybe for shutting down a great base, super place to fly from, crew are lovely.:sad:

Safe Flying All!

ive got two lots of four days down in SOU,two of the four days are positioning, by plane, via belfast.Suits me,i cant be arsed to drive all that way. And i prefer the view from up there ;)

OFB you must have been close to I Mac.You seem to be in the fleet office a lot by the sound of your posts!!

Yes tigger, known him a few years, and it's OK to go into the fleet office you know, they don't bite!

Were you rostered to position by air or did you ask not to drive??

ah but they try to bite sometimes,and sometimes it is wrongly = not good!
nope,just had it on my roster like this,im not complaining,although longleat is pretty close so im thinking of asking for a hire car one way so i can drive to longleat & into southampton because ive got 24 hours free there from when i arrive after positioning to when i report for my duty!

I went to my welcome course trying to be positive, what a waste of a day:bored: It was all about selling, no-one could answer any questions and after the rosters came out I think most crew quickly realised any information we had been given pre-signing was at best ill informed and at worst a big fat fib:mad:
And before someone tells me I should think myself lucky to have a job - I don't:mad: I have worked bloody hard over the years and to have this dropped on me with no choices is, in my opinion, utter !!!!e.
It is sad that people haven't stuck together and fought for something better.
I have every sympathy with people who have lost their jobs and I sincerely hope they find something better soon.
I mean no offence to anyone who works for Flybe, that is your choice.
I believe that the t&c's negociated may have improved things for you and I hope that people will continue to push for this to carry on.
The atmosphere in the crew room is dire, there is no-one to pass on information, uniform issue is a disaster, one girl has 3 shirts and 1 skirt and is being asked to operate on a 3 day tour with that!
What fun, I can't wait for the 25th:ugh:

Dolly im really surprised, i felt that the BHX welcome to flybe course was very positive, lots of information.I know they focus on selling, but that is what they do & it is their service standard. imagine if they had come over to us instead,that we were still bacx & we were teaching them how to give out sandwiches and drinks!!they would probably say that all were bothered about is customer service. its because its a change,its something different that it seems like that is all they are bothered about.BACON didnt push the selling thing when it went live, at least FlyBE do,because they know this is where they can make money.Just think of all the commission you will be getting compared to what we get now!!!
the T&C's arent THAT bad, ok we are taking a drop in some of our terms and conditions,but not many of them.would you rather have a drop in T&C's or no job?i know which I and many others would prefer.
Uniform here at BHX is pretty well organised & the PM doing this has done a marvellous job.yes,everyone has got a VERY basic issue of uniform,but nothing was ordered until the deal was signed on the first weekend in March for obvious reasons, and i think to issue that amount of uniform within two weeks - well they've done a spectacular job, dont forget they will have to get the pilots into uniform too.We've all got to go through this, I'm working Sunday but dont even have my uniform yet, but im just being patient because everyone seems to be trying their hardest, and the guys making the uniform can only make so much at any one time!!I go away on a four day trip next week,i doubt i'll have enough shirts etc, but what can i do?just make use of the facilities available to me to try & clean my shirts.we were told that they clean & dry pretty easily,so it shouldnt be a problem.
PLEASE try and be positive about the whole thing, we have to pull together to make this work.If it wasnt for Flybe, we'd ALL be out of a job.Flybe have got direction,they know where they're going and they know how to do it,unlike BACON/BACX - they wouldnt know how to organise a pi55 up in a brewery.
If you do have any questions that people wont answer for you up in Manchester, why not post them on here?There are a couple of Flybe guys who can probably answer them for you,if not im sure they'll do their best to find out :)

I am glad you are finding it such a positive pleasant experience. I and the majority of my colleagues are not.
Why should I have to resort to asking questions on a public forum when I should have been given this information weeks ago.
I don't want to sell 'gifts' regardless of the commission I will make.
I am of the oldfashioned opinion that passengers are there to fly from A to B and NOT to shop.
As regards the uniform, I do understand the logistics of issuing it all in the timescale allowed. Obvious answer would be to wait until everyone has actually got the minimum required to enable them to look anywhere decent i.e/ skirt, jacket, which is incidently like a throwback to the 80's, and a shirt. Not too much to ask:mad:

Tigger thats harsh saying BACE/BACON management could not organise a pi$$ up in a brewery they made some of there finest decisions while in there lol!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dolly,im sorry that you feel that way.is it PM's youve been asking in MAN about the whole flybe thing or other people?maybe after Sunday ask the Flybe PM's any questions you may have, or see if you can get a contact number for someone from Flybe to answer any questions,or maybe see if you can speak to the PM's at BHX?
Duty free has always been popular on flights, we used to do it when we were BACX but again didnt sell as much because it wasnt pushed. I can understand you saying that its about getting people from A to B and not selling things, i completely agree with you, but this is the way the market has turned and now it only seems to be a small minority of airlines who do not concentrate on selling items on board.
I believe there is talk of a new uniform,as a lot of us BACON crew have been asking for trousers & that the new uniform could be here within a couple of years.As far as im aware,anyone who doesnt have the new uniform after the 25th and is meant to be operating will be taken offline,not our fault i know but at least they want us all to look pretty much the same.
The lack of communication has caused low morale across the whole of the company,i thought that maybe the welcome to flybe days would improve things, but obviously not.Im sad to hear that there are a lot of people feeling this way in MAN,you all deserve better than to be misinformed (or not informed at all)
Marlowe - wasnt their best decision selling us to flybe??????

Do you really believe that Flybe was their only option?
Perhaps it was more of a case of who they didn't want to sell it to.

it could have been worse!

That is of no concellation, either to me or to the pax who are voting with their feet.
I hope it goes well for you at BHX but expect a big recruitment campaign in MAN.

good luck to you,and i hope things work out for you,whether you choose to stay with the new flybe,or to move on.

Reality Bites!
 

I know I have a rep as being sometimes a doom merchant, but it's only because I want stuff to go well with the merger, and up till some news I had yesterday I have been very keen for the whole BACON/FLYBE thing to be a success, after all I need to work!

HOWEVER, it now seems FLYBE are going back on their word in several areas, perhaps AdamAdamski was right!

Crew support were told on Tuesday they would be kept until October while flybe looked at them, then one of them was told Wednesday in a full flybe crew room at BHX by the 'Manager' ( known I believe as Fat Bas***d so my spys in Flybe tell me) " we need to talk as we don't need you after Sunday as crew support is shutting down"!!!

Also he was overheard telling someone that flybe did not want the BACON PM's!

I hope this is all not true, it just seems however that our worst fears are coming home to roost. First BRS base closure, then rumour BACON pilots not getting their payment, now this about crew support.

I'm sure dustybin et al will hammer me for this, but there is no smoke without fire guys, IF all this is true, it smacks of duplicity at best!

I really hope its not, does anyone have any info about all this stuff??

im shocked at that about CST,cos one of our lady PM's mentioned it when someone asked "what do we do if we need to fone CST after sunday" and she said "oooh just fone them,theyre staying for at least 6 months because Flybe are trialling it!"
Interesting times ahead for all.
has anyone seen the Kickstart 2007 webcasts on nextgenairline website?

Crew support team??? don't even know what they are or do some info would be great. As for FB in BHX doesn't surprise or shock me, i suggest the person involved phone EXT and let them know (best to come from the horse mouth and not the donkeys arse) I'm sure they will kick his if they know.

crew support came in about november 2005,to go between the cabin crew & crew control.sometimes they are useful,sometimes they arent.

Then proberly best keeping my thoughts to myself, as why have a middle man? Althought a few in Flybe!

Crew Support
 

FYI Dusty,

Crew support were a team of folk on duty, 1 set in MAN, who looked after northern bases, 1 in BHX who looked after the south. Crew could call from 0530 to 2200 to go sick, sort roster changes, dependancy days etc., without having to wait in a long telephone line to talk to crew control. It seemed to work! The BHX guy and gals are/were great, always helpful if they could, told it like it was if your requests were out of order etc. Really bad way they have been treated I'm afraid!

Talked to one of the 2 ladies off on maternity today, neither had been told officialy by FB!!!

SAD SAD SAD!

What an appaling way to treat people!:= :{

aaaah OFB how is said lady on maternity?hope she's well!
Had a txt from "Flybe" earlier saying the first day for everyone being in Uniform is now the 1st April and to continue wearing BA uniforms until 31st March.Hopefully everyone will have had theirs by then!!!
Its frustrating to see uniforms arrived for people who have left the company/transferred to CityFlyer - they should have cancelled those!!!!

how apt APRIL 1st.....just about sums it up don't you think ?

My thoughts exactly!!

Wasn't impressed by the 'non-threatening' letter either:mad:

its not all sweetness and light in Cityflyer you know!!!!!

BHX is looking very very different!!!

Boy is it Different!
 

You are right tigger, BHX is very different, but its only what we should expect I suppose.

My real concerns are about how we will be managed, I've not heard a good word about FB and now I've met him I am not enamoured!

Sad to see our great admin ladies have been given the boot! Apparantly told on Thursday last week that Friday was their last day as " Flybe crew look after themselves, they don't need an admin team"!!

Want a laugh? Watch our ex BACON PM's boogying to The Bay City Rollers on Central News tonight??!!! FB wanted them to add a touch of 'glamour' to the Flybe TV launch of BHX. Sexist Bast**d!

Ho Hum!

you ba guys
 

i just wanted to say i have been at flybe for 4 and a half years and it is a great company to work for, however since the ba crew have appered i think i will have to watch our jobs, i mean ba couldnt make 3 companys work, because all the crew seem to do is moan, like the take over or go and find another job !!!!!!!

cflybe after struggling to make sense of your grammer i am guessing you are not very happy with things then?

Cflybe

I am grateful for my job and i know that if the deal with Flybe hadnt gone through,i probably would have been redundant by now.In fact, im actually glad im working for Flybe now, because i know im working for a company thats got direction, motivation and knows what theyre doing and knows how to make money successfully.Its young,its fresh, its bright - much nicer compared to old fashioned BA.You know what else is nice?Not being tarred with a brush that we're all miserable, and that we all go on strike. Because that has been said to me by passengers before, and so i politely told them not all of us in Connect and in Mainline are like that.

EVERYBODY moans.I have tried to be positive about the situation,and still am even though I am tired after starting at 2pm yesterday and finishing at 1am this morning because we had go to Frankfurt instead of somewhere a bit closer to home.But its ok,because the passengers were happy & grateful that we were bringing them home, and the crew were good and we all managed to have a laugh and a joke together.
I could point out more reasons why people arent so happy.But you'll call me a moaner.To hell with it, i'll tell you anyway.

To every negative side, there is a plus point.
And anyway, what has the BA Connect crew got to do with your jobs?It was management who made the company fail, not the crew.We've all worked extraordinarily hard over the last two years to help the company.And crew moaning has absolutely no effect on whether your job is safe or not.As ive said, EVERYBODY in EVERY company moans,regardless of what job they do, or who they work for.Simply because nothing is perfect.

tiggerific_69 - it is the likes of you that Flybe must retain.

Many ex BACon crew would appear to have gone to great lengths to help out over the last few days as delays ex BHX became apparent. It is a testament to the calibre of these staff and those longer serving Flybe crews that things did not grind to a halt.

Every company has employees who feel they are owed something, however it is these people who only disrupt the lives of their colleagues and unfortunately they are normally the most vocal.

I'm not digging at anyone personally or on this forum, it is just an observation and one not solely related to our industry.

WOW

I have been away for just over a week, and the REALITY has kicked in with a vengance. :eek:

Firstly I would like to say, i was recruiting for new crew the other day (easyjet) and we had quite a few BACON guys there from BRS, which was nice to see, not that they lost there jobs of course, but there is more cabin crew jobs there for them at BRS, So good luck guys who attended our recruitment days or is going to attend.

Ok back to the nitty gritty. It seems like exciting times of Flybe takeover has now VERY much passed and turned to somewhat a !!!!e reality for alot of you at BACON (NO OFFENCE TO FLYBE GUYS).

I think I have said this before, During the start of this thread I kept my mouth shut about my 6 years at Flybe and my thoughts on management and their decision ect ect ect.
But boy You BACON guys are already realising fastwhat Flybe can be like and are like.
At this point I would like to point out that the folks at flybe I worked with were and are great people. My moaning is aimed at the higher levels of flybe sociaty.

Flybe have taken over airlines before, not on the scale of BACON, they took staff on ect, things went ok then they kept some of the routes and F:mad: ed everone off as hit the road. Not saying this will happen here, saying that BRS is a example.

OFB
Sounds like your on the frontline at BHX with whats happening, you got undercover spies working for you LOL.

I will finish up by saying I did enjoy my 6 years at Flybe, but just watch out, the management are not the best by far, and decions they often made were not the best for moral, but the flybe folks you will work with are good people.

Anyway I finished gabbing for now, See what comes next.

Brs BACON crew
 

Well i'm sure there will be a few crew making their way back across the bridge when 'flyforbeans' starts in the autumn!:D

Nesboy

Does Flybe still have its nickname when I was there which is

Flymaybe, Occasionally, Tech Indiffinatly :}

Not really, as most of there a/c (apart from teh Bacon ones) are brand new. :)

hahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

Funny how many 145's jetting around compared to Q400 and 146's parked up this week! One of wich was the likely cause of tiggerifics late night jaunt to FRA.

I read another Forum that you now have a Dash 300 and EMB 145 painted up in flybe colours.
I have been scanning the net and as yet not found pics of them.
Cant wait to see what they are like.

Its just photos that have been touched up with photoshop thats all !!!!!!