No text just an email when I signed on. About time I say. Now all the what ifs can end and we can get on with doing what we do!

LOL :D .

I have to say though, that Flybe can be a very hard tusk-master!

ok so i have a VERY important question for the BHX (formerly) BA guys and gals. On behalf of many Flybe crew is there a smoking area airside at T2???;) Cant be doing a Toulouse - Hannover without a roon!

FAG Breaks
 

Dear TeaAnyone21,

Heartbroken, you smoke! Tis the end of something wonderful, smokey kisses are not for this oldflyboy!

Yup, there is a nice ciggy littered bus shelter just outside the staff gate, a minutes walk from the crew room!

You'll never grow up to be a big strong girl if you smoke you know!

On Another Note:

So its official then, we are one company at last.

BUT how very SAD that the first thing Mr French does is close down a base! All those super people who fly from Bristol must be gutted. I just hope some of them come to Brum, Andy G used to commute after he had to leave cos he was too tall for the 145, guess it's OK if you live the Brum side of the City, but its still awful for all concerned.

Good Luck to all cabin and flight crew caught up in this particular upset.

Sad
 

I just wanted to say to oldflyboy that I too am sad that are eldest PM is to be leaving us very shortly, however I am sure we will be supported through the transition by the remaining 3 pm's as they have always done.:(

Don't think I need to grow any more, wont fit on the 145 as it is! Thanks for the info. Many a smoker from flybe will be pleased.

And this is a post I made on the 1st March

II did not want to say it really on previous posts, and be the one who seems to think he knows it all with flybe's actions, but BRS getting closed by Flybe does not suprise me one bit. They were always good at opening and closing and so on.

Sorry for the BRS guys. And for the BRS guys or if no BRS guys on here hopefully some of you kind BACON guys can pass this on. We are recruiting at easyjet for BRS at the moment so why not apply http://www.easyjet.co.uk/EN/Jobs/Cab...rew_index.html

You never know I might see some of you guys on recruitment days.
I wish the BRS lot good luck in whatever they do.

just seen in the terms & endearments thread that pilots will be getting a £3000 bonus if they are still with the company in 3 months time.what about cabin crew????? seeing as WW has just given Mr French a nice payout!!!!!

Good point mate, as a driver I wasnt aware that there was no payment to cabin crew.
I will not forget or forgive the people responsible for the BRS closure announcement. The first indication that I got was walking in to work past a row of weeping cabin crew.
Hope the idiots responsible can sleep at night, not.

There are some lovely people at BRS and they dont deserve this.

Goose and Gander
 

£3k for Captains, £1.5k for F/Os?

Nice one chaps, we probably are expendable as cabin crew, so no dosh for us, and mimimum uniform issue, no coats, 3 shirts, you try getting Mrs Oldflyboy to go down the laundrette every other day to get my shirts sorted! I can' because I will probably be working like a dog and anyway I can't serve customers with wrinkly wash day hands now can I??

And as for the welcome to flybe day! No real info, silly quizzes about uniform etc! DOH!:ugh:

Still, only another 10 years till retirement...................

No wonder old Ian Mac is leaving, can't say I blame him!:D

And I was so looking forward a week or so ago

Ho Hum.

And please don't get me going about Bristol BIG MISTAKE JIM, NONE OF US FEEL WE CAN TRUST YOU NOW!!!!!!

oldflyboy,well said.If the employees can't trust the leadership team..not much hope for a harmonious,sucessful working relationship.essential elements for a customer focussed business.passengers will just love being greeted by disgruntled,troubled cabin crew,wondering what the company will do to them next.does anyone really think things will get any better,I think not !

Hi Guys

Well now the reality has hit, the deal is signed, Jim French has YET AGAIN F***ED crew over.
Through this thread I have kept a lot of interest to see how you guys felt, both BACON and Flybe. And until the deal was signed everyone was excited, a new adventure. And I belived that this could be the GOOD turning point for Flybe, and hoped that they had learnt from previous mistakes, and had learnt not to SCREW crew over like they used to.
So thats why I kept my mouth shut and did not want to go off on one and slag Flybe management off, As I belived this could be a good thing for you guys and did not want to be the one to spoil want could of been a good party.
But good old Flybe management have beat me to it.
Even though I am no longer part of flybe, and flybe/BACON does not affect my career, I still am angry that Flybe screws people, and has screwed BRS.
I had many friends in Flybe that were pushed from pillar to post. Close your base but you can move to this one we are opening, then now you have moved we are clsing you down again.

Watch out BACON.

Flybe have given the pilots this to keep them as they need someone to drive, to keep the a/c going.
Cabin Crew your not as much as a concern, the way they see it you are easily replaced compared to Flight Deck (This is nothing against you Flight Deck Guys). You dont need the training like flight deck, you dont cost nowhere near as much to train, and there plenty of people looking for C/C jobs.

I think that my Ranting finished with now on Flybe, Feel a bit better now.
Anyway good luck guys wether BE or BACON.

Onward and Upuward
 

Well, nothing to be done AA but put a brave face on and get on with it. Our PM's are looking gloomy apparantly they went down to exeter for some sort of presentation, perhaps they are miserable because of that.

Our oldest PM goes on Monday, I'm going to see if I can get in to see him before then. We will miss him.:{

This thread seems to be drying up, does no-one in flybe apart from TeaAnyone read prune? Keep it going guys or it will drop off the bottom of the pages!:=

Any hot gossip?? :O

ofboy

Funny you mention this I noticed this as well.

I was wondering if it was because the reality has hit, and the excitement as SUDDENLY gone with the firstly the bad news about BRS, and maybe you guys have seen what may happen :\

When is the 'Official' move to flybe taking place. As in Service and PA's uniform ect.
You BACON guys still be in your BA stuff when you start operating as flybe?

Hows the moods in the BACON camp at the moment?

How is it?
 

As you say AA, lots resigned to it, several keeping their options open. Several experienced crew leaving, couple of the ex Brymon girls who opened that base here at Brum are in last few days before they leave us. Most of the ex BAR crew going or gone, only 4 left by end of next week from the 87 who stayed when we formed Cityexpress.

We are now a very inexperienced base, the final history of BA will be wiped out when the decorators move in and start ripping down walls etc.

We will all be in Flybe uniform and delivering the Flybe product on the 25th March, but still operating with our BACON pilots on the Barbie on our current BA Sops. Last few RJ100 trips towards the end of the month, they will all be gone we are told by 25th, apart from a couple of ad-hoc charters.

Exeter is writing our April rosters God help us! Good news is that we go onto Flybe money from 1st April, so some of us will get more dosh, i.e. newish Pursers..............oh sorry mean Number Ones!! God this airline is amateur! Everything we hear about Flybe seems to give cause for concern, even our PM's look worried!!

Is it true the head of cabin services is a right C*W?

C'mon AA, get Stelios to open a base here!!

Sounds promising...
Didnt realise we were still working on the RJ (im on leave atm) I didnt think we could now that we belong to different companies.
Id love to know what its like down in the dungeons of T2 at the moment...i missed all the excitement when we started the BA Connect service last year because i was on leave!!!

Get over yourself Oldflyboy! purser, No1 what the hell does it matter what you are called (as long as you have a job) As you said you are a new NO1 so the power must have went to your head. You are in for a shock! if we are such amateurs then do you and us a favour and head to the job centre, if you can get that head through.

Well said Dusty! We engineers are getting pretty cheesed off with the attitude of our new "colleagues"! The answer is quite simple, do us all a favour if you don't like it, foxtrot oscar, PLEASE!!

Funny, coulda sworn this was a cabin crew thread, tut tut gentlemen, its a rumour site after all, lighten up!

OFB
To be fair, it is a cabin crew thread on a professional pilots site!! Now do try and post in a manner so as not to offend OUR new flybe colleagues. It sounds good all round so be positive, give it a good shot and sure if you don't like it than you can do something about it.

If you haven't had a roster from EXT then wait til you get one, it could be top notch - if its not then complain like mad!

From what I have seen there is absolutely nothing amateur about flybe. There is a massive amount of work going on in the background and there is bound to be the odd mistake - give them a break and a bit of support.
:D

Thanks Anotherspaceman, nice to hear that it isn't all moaning and whingeing from our new friends. Good to have you and your like minded colleagues wih us. Now this greasy rag will remove himself from the upper echelon of the aviation world before poor old OFB has a fit. Why on earth do we need licenced engineers anyway?!!

shutting brs is a mistake then?

Thanks spaceman for backing your new colleague up, nice to have someone on side. OFB yes your right this is a cabin crew thread and I'm cabin crew (imagine that amateur cabin crew finding their way around an aviation website:eek: ) What annoys me is that a lot of the amateur cabin crew you refer to have come from other major airlines (airlines you could only dream about) A lot were made redundant and didn't have the options you have or their arses kissed along the way (they were shown the door with a pat on the back) others have chosen Flybe for personal lifestyle reasons such as being at a regional airport close to friends and family. So i will offer you my best advise and loss the "your better than us" attitude it stinks:= And it will go down like a lead balloon online.

Now Dusty you are very welcome to the support -but calm down - don't take the bait - and don't be sarcastic, you are only winding him up!

He just needs a gentle education, which flybe will deliver in due course

Big chill pill ;)

I am chilled just educating the man on that not everyone is there cause they can't get a job with an another airline, which seams to be a lot of people's perception of us. I was even speaking to some BAcon crew the other day who seamed shocked that a lot of us had moved from other airlines to be with Flybe. Even more shocked that some came from the world that is BA. We have all served our time at other airlines and joined Flybe for a better lifestyle or just a job and at the bottom of the seniority list (touchy subject).

WOW!
 

Well folks, lot of you seem to be getting areated over my last post, so first up, my apologies if I offended anyone, not intended, but having re-read it, I can understand your comments.Sackcloth and Ashes in the OFB household for a while then.

For info, I am well aware how everyone contributes, and of course all of us, including myself, will work 100% to the success of the company we are joining. Having said that is it wrong to seek the best for everyone, and have concerns about what the future looks like? NO!

LOTS of super folk have lost jobs through this, ops, crew control, customer services, ramp services, managers, the list is endless. And of course I am lucky to have a job.Won't stop me empathising with them and wishing things were different though.

However the truth is that everyone I know would all still love to be working for BA. We understand the reasons why we are not, but don't put us down for having concerns about what flybe are about. It's natural, this transition period is full of uncertainty for us as well as you guys in flybe I am sure.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. If it all works out, super, and this oldflyboy will eat humble pie and apologise to everyone if flybe turn out to be the promised land.

And dustybin, I was not referring to my new or old colleagues when I talked about ameteurs................ Apologies if it was read that way, its about process and communication and style, not people.

beaverman, no offence intended, when you have been flying as long as I have of course we are are of how important EVERYONE is, but engineers do whinge as well, I know cause I've worked alongside them for so many years. Quoth" Oh God another full page of cabin defects" etc! Perhaps we can share a pint or two in the future and discuss the merits of communication?

Spaceman, thanks for the comments, but my first para should cover your concerns. We will do our best, will welcome everyone into the new Flybe, ex BACON crew room and look forward, but forgive us the occassional glance over the shoulder please!

Also it's nice to see more contributors on this even if they are slagging me off!

Safe Flying.

Just out of interest,have BACON crews received an April roster yet?

is that ajoke??

Apparently the roster is coming out on 18th!!!

Dusty
Bacon CC do not have a seniority list. So how do you merge that one then eh?

OFB
Sounds like you hit a few flybe nerves :\ with regard to.......
I can't see that one happening, not the market for them there.
But hey there are plenty of jobs with easyjet at many other places with direct entry Seniors. Anyway less of the job advertising.
You agree with you that as BACON guys I am sure you are concerned (especially after whats happened as BRS)
I must confess I have also ripped into flybe a little in this thread due to my experiance at flybe when i was there. And in fairnessI had a good time there, but bad ones to (I think to prevent an argument I wont say to much)
I think for BACON it will take a few months to settle into flybe, then it will be interesting to see how the feelings are then.
With regard to whats the cabin Services Manager or some of the managers is like, i need to keep somethings to myself :mad: Thats a whole other story.

Q400 No nosewheel landing
 

Here is a interesting video for you flybe guys on the Q400, and for you BACON guys going onto the Q400

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...tm?bw=bb&mp=wm

AA
 

AA, want to PM me with your scuttlebutt?

Nice link.

Reminds me a bit about the old ATPs, I reckon we had a one in five chance of getting a landing minus one of the gear units on those. Many lucky crews got the chance to ride the old bus along the runway on one flap!

Nice landing BTW, he looked like he could have taxied the thing in it was that smooth.

BTW no rosters yet, but if Rashers go to live roster, they'll see their days off and ground courses shown in there. Hope that helps.

thank flapoperator,im out of touch at the moment as ive been on leave since the first weekend in march! :ok:

Flaps
Here ya go again

boll*cks - how many landings did we do in an ATP?

How many nose gear failures - 1

How many main gear failures - 2

@rse!

Now I know the flaps are going to open soon but try and keep it together!!

Doh!

I should have said that when you looked at the number of hulls that had a problem with gear (5), the number of hulls we had at the time (15) and the one in five assumption adds up. BAe did no mods or ever really found out what was causing it, so the odds on another one happening were very high.

I did 3 1/5 years and 1500hrs just waiting for my turn, and luckily it didn't happen to me. Fortunately the 146 got in the way first.

As to landing technique, even with all the wheels down, it was more of a lottery than camelot can manage!

Anyway, back to topic, eh.

Anyone actually got their uniforms yet?

Gone quit on here again LOL,

Flybe shut down another base? :ooh: :} Just kidding

I thought you BACON/Flybe guys would be full of goss especially now :E

got my welcome to flybe course coming up....should be interesting!!!i dont actually know whats being covered on it,but im sure it wont be dissimilar to the "service delivery course" we all went through 12 months ago.I dont know if anyone has been given their uniform yet...supposed to be in it as of next Sunday.
wonder if oldflyboy can shed some light??