I'm in exactly the same position as you Suelle, I asked and was told my application would be presented to an Executive Team and I would hear after that, however I have not yet been asked to complete a medical.

YT

Suelle
Yeah i am the same as you except i went for group asses in brisbane.
My references have been contacted about 2 week after i received the email sayin they would be, but that was about 3 weeks ago now.
I spose its just another waiting game......

Hi Folks!

Just curious to find out if any one has been called up to start the training session this month? I'am on the edge at the moment!!! How long does it take to receive a call??? :{ :hmm: :confused: :sad:

Rollz

looks like we are all in the same boat at the moment then doesn't it... dammit i just want to know!!!! :*

"How long does it take to receive the call?"

i waited one year exactly on the shortlist to get the call, i know two girls who waited on the shortlist for three years before they got the call. You have to realise this is QF and there are a lot of things happening around the place, but just a bit of info for you cos i know what it's like to be in your position. I was talking to a CSM last Sunday and he said that his partner received "the call" and is due to start training today in MEL for the next group of casuals to come into Perth. When we were having interviews for permanency at the end of Jan, 30 or so people were interviewed, i don't know if this group were offered casual of if this CSM's partner went through with you guys?

just thought i'd let you know.

Another MAM group starts training in Melbourne tomorrow for Sydney base.

Excuse me for being naive....
 

But WHY?? is Qantas recruiting when it looks as if the last lot of fixed termers will be let go. GOOD hard working dedicated people. Flying is being shipped off shore to cheaper alternatives!! What are these interviews for MAM casuals?

AIRBUST

This is standard Qantas procedure, they cannot retain the fixed term crew as this would require them to be converted to permanent. There is currently a "recruitment freeze" on (which doesnt effect the employment of MAM Casuals, Thai, NZ or UK Crew OF COURSE) and as we all know permanent employees cost far more then ditching the current fixed termers and starting over again. From memory it has been some years since Qantas has employed (or converted) people into permanent positions in long haul and in short haul the last crew employed into permanent positions was way back in March of 2003.

This is not fair, but thats Qantas. The only people that have any certainty of their future and careers are those crew based in Auckland, Bangkok and London.

You have to understand Qantas is a struggling company that needs to ensure it makes a $1billion profit this year, so that senior executives achieve their bonus' at your expense.

Just out of interest, this is from www.faaa.net

1 March 2005

Attention All Victorian Long haul Flight Attendants

VIC BRANCH NEWS

Loss of Flying to Auckland Based Flight Attendants

The Victorian Branch is both appalled and disillusioned at the latest Company decision to remove 4 positions for Melbourne based Flight attendants from the LA trips. When advised of this action through the Planning and Scheduling Committee, we strenuously objected to this decision, highlighting the severe negative impact it would have on the base, in particular the escalation in reserve line rotation, the financial loss to members through the removal of tradition flying and the overall loss of stability in lifestyle.

We were told that these negatives would be negligible, as the situation would be managed through the directed leave program and base transfers. This is simply not the case. Given Melbourne was, on the Company's own admission one of the most profitable bases, providing above average customer satisfaction in all areas, it is difficult to comprehend the motivation behind this demoralising action, which at best will deliver minimal cost savings to Qantas. It would appear the reward for excellence is another backhand.

Whilst we are incensed at this decision, we are bound by legislative requirements and EBA Agreements, consequently there is little action we can take. In fact, Management, advised me at the last Planning and Scheduling Meeting that we did not own the flying and it would be allocated by the Company at their discretion.

Over the last 6 months we have seen several decisions which continue to marginalise the contribution of Melbourne Longhaul Flight Attendants, and we fail to see how these short term cost cutting exercises and flawed resource management can benefit the Company's Sustainable Futures program in the long term.

I urge ALL Flight Attendants to write to senior Mamgement from the CEO down, emphasising your individual concerns. We all want Qantas to be the most profitable and best Airline in the world, but to do this, you must make management realise that they must have incentives for employees, not regression.

I was told by MAM that Qantas did not conduct a recruitment recently for the current/upcoming training sessions.

They are just training all the people from the shortlist and having them ready for utilisation.

I was also told that the current training sessions may be the last training sessions to be conducted this year. :hmm:

Rollz:ok:

anyone heard anything yet????

I was told at my panel interview that there were presently no positions available, and we were being interviewed for a short list.
So I guess there is no hurry.
I have heard some people have had a "no thankyou" email.
And I know people with interviews at the end of April so I guess we just have to be patient.
The 11 month contracts in Sydney and Melbourne will be up shortly, so who knows where that will lead. Given the London base opening and so much South East Asian flying going to shorthaul, one can only speculate what movement to expect.
A girlfriend working as cabin crew in longhaul tells me they are overstaffed. (One individuals opinion).
Not the greatest of news.
My apologies.
But we have to be realistic to avoid disappointment.

Excess Crew
 

CABIN SECURE
Your friend is right :Longhaul have excess crew but only in some categories.in other categories..CSM and CSS they are short.Forward planning of manpower at QF has always been abysmal

Thanks guys... i think thats what i wanted to hear!
I was just hoping i wouldnt get 'no news is bad news...'
Im in no rush. I mean itd be great if it happened now, but if it doesnt, thats ok too. I thought we'd be in for a long wait, but i really wish that they hadnt said 'yeah, you'll hear in 4 weeks!'. I wish theyd stop telling us stuff like that when realisitically they probably knew they werent gonna meet that.
I spose we can keep wishing all we want but it aint gonna make anything happen!
anywho.... im off to my boring boring job.... hahahaha
jesski

Hi!!!

You'll learn not to believe QF when they say things like you'll hear in 4 weeks", believe it when you see it.

Don't forget that they already have training school's for the next lot of casuals already in training. The last group of casuals going to Perth started training a week or so ago. There are also a lot of other things happening at the moment like the downsizing of the Perth long haul base, so they have to work out what's happening with all of those crew?

just be patient, good things come to those who wait.

Oz

Well....The Waiting Game is FINALLY over for me!!!!

I got the call today to commence training on April 11! I am lost for words. Really excited!! I hope that those of you who are still waiting get the CALL soon! :ok: :D :p :O :E

RollzRoyce :ok:

Well done Rolls!

Hopefully I'm up soon too, anyone based in Melbourne heard anything????

rolls royce is the training for MAM? And what base is it for?

amongthestars,

Yes the training is for MAM and its in Sydney.

Rollz :ok:

Hey Rollz!

Woooohoooo! Whose doing their happy dance now? :}

Congratulations, fantastic news and well deserved too.

Happy flying to you. :ok:

Iguana

Hey Iguana and yt!

Thanks for your kind words!

Yes it was definately worth the wait and I am really looking forward to flying!!! :E :}

Cheers,

Rollz :ok:

Congratulations RollzRoyce!

Thats fantastic news:D Now you have a bit of a wait til it all starts. I was busting to start from the moment I got the call till the first day at training... and I only had to wait 3 days! Enough about me. Do you have a uniform fitting a couple of days before too?

Anywhoo... good luck. Tell us all about it!


TSSOV:D :D

Hey there TSSOV!!!!!

I know the waiting is going to drag :hmm: :ugh: :rolleyes: but I am more than happy to wait. I can make alternative arrangements for other commitments this way....so I guess its kind of worked out for me!

It's really funny, because at nights I can't go to sleep from my excitement! You probably know what I am going through! :D

I have to go to QCCD for my uniform fitting and Security photos the week before my training. Really excited!!!!

Thanks for your support!

Take Care

Rollz :ok:

Hey Rollz!

I don't know if you get a choice like we did in regards to the wheelie bag, but just a tip, if you do get the choice, choose the international size as i was the only stupid one in the group who chose the domestic size bag because we were domestic crew, not a stupid way of thinking right? (this is without seeing the actual bags). However, when we got them, the domestic size wheelie bag was way to small and the handle not long enough. Now i'm 6ft and i could barely fit a pair of shoes, t-shirt and shorts in there, so i have recently been able to swap it over and it is a lot better! so make sure you get the international size if you get the choice. I know the groundschool that came through after us automatically all got given the domestic size.

Congrats Rollz! Have fun! :ok:

Thanks SkySista!

Oz! Thanks for your advice. I've seen those domestic wheelie bags. I dont think I could fit a thing in that! I will definately go for the International one. From what I remember the casuals here got to choose the one they want! But iut may have changed! (I hope not)

Rollz :ok:

Qantas Panel Interviews
 

Hi all.

Has anyone any news of whats going on at the moment since their panel interview in Perth ?

I havent heard from Qantas for over a month.

It is a painfully slow process.........

Hi Suelle
Well i had my panel interview in jan in brissie, and then i got an email saying i was through that and they would be contacting my references. that was on the 2nd of feb. However they did say it could be at least 4 weeks, so i am hoping to hear something soon!
Have they contacted your references yet? They only took about 2 or 3 weeks to do that for me.
Jesski

Hi!!!

As i am aware, like probably everyone, casual and full time (if it happens) won't happen until the next financial year, but have any casuals at all received any notification as to the outcome of their interviews completed a couple of months ago, ie shortlist etc? Had heard some casuals from SYD had received "no thanks" letters?

Oz

Oz!

I think Anygivensunday99 (I think that’s his/her nick) was given a start date this month. Not sure if it is the class on the 18th though. I think he/she was re-interviewed in January.

But hold on... Just reading over you post ....I think you are actually referring to the casuals already employed by MAM...who have applied for the permanent position...Sorry :)

Can't comment on that topic.

I received my Qantas uniform yesterday...Its SO HOT!! :cool: Did a fashion parade to my whole family. I really like the Men’s uniform. They gave me so many items of clothing that I had to clear out a lot of clothes from my wardrobe. The luggage is cool too. Go the crock leather!!

Oz, they automatically gave me the International size wheelie bag without me even having to ask for it...So I was lucky!...luvn it!

Not sure if I should turn up to day one of training with my uniform though, as we were told to wear business attire.

What do you all think? Uniform or just business attire on day one?

Thanks,

Rollz :ok:

Hi Rollz,

Just wear the busines attire. Most training schools get given a date to start wearing the uniform once everyone has one.

Good luck with everything, you'll have a great time. Always remember it is what you make of it. So stay positive, enjoy, and never forget how and why you got there. :ok:

Iguana

Next MAM recruitment?
 

Congratulations to you RollzRoyce! Have fun! It's good to read from others that the hours for MAM casuals are quite good and consistent.

Does anyone know if MAM are going to be recruiting again? I just registered yesterday.

Any news would be appreciated even if it's for a language speaker recruitment drive.

Thanks:}

Congrats Rollz! About time ;)

Have a blast, won't you! :ok:

Sky

Finally!
 

Hi Guys!!!

Thanks for your advice and kind wishes!!!

There is 13 hours and 15 minutes left for my training to commence!!! I can’t wait. I just want to thank everyone here for there support during my waiting period!!...and for all the advice I have received!

I will definitely wear Business Attire tomorrow! I went shopping today and bought a nice folder to put all my notes in etc..

I also gave my car a well deserved WASH... It’s sparkling! I think I am going to have an early one tonight....Not sure if I would be able to sleep though.

I am looking forward to meeting some fantastic people (hopefully) in this training class. I will keep you all updated throughout my training on what’s happening.

Just like to wish everyone all the best!!

Rollz :ok:

congratulations rollz, its been so exciting following your progress! i always have abig smile on my face when i read your posts...

someone:
do you *really* need a drivers license to apply for a MAM spot?

Training
 

DAY 1

Well what a day it has been!!!! I am exhausted already and this is only day one INTRODUCTION!

Rocked up at 8:30 at the Qantas building and mingled with the other trainees, until we were called to go up to our class.

We have two great trainers. One lady one male! Absolutely fantastic people.

Went through the class introduced ourselves. Again a great bunch of people. About 16 of us and half of them a female and the other half male. So it worked out well. Its a young group so that also makes it fun! The class consists of many people who were on the fixed term contract for the December period. So lots of previous EP's experience in the class.

New destinations that we will be flying to will include Mumbai, Tokyo and Manila in the near future. Although I think flights to Manila have already commenced with Short Haul.

Had a coffee break!

Then a session where we did a group quiz based on Qantas and its history. Our group and another came equal FIRST!!! Viewed a few presentations on Qantas and its products...Very interesting!

Then we went to get issued our ASIC (I.D) Cards! Felt so proud (I wish that each and everyone of you can experience that feeling one day...for those who are still waiting HANG IN THERE!!!...Your day will also come)

Then went over grooming and presentation and did another activity based on this.

And that concludes day 1. Tomorrow we go over the lifestyle of a flight attendant etc.. We start EP's on Wednesday...We are going to get slaughtered...but I am looking forward to it.

Catch you all soon!

Rollz :ok:

P.S. k-lo glad that I can make you smile!!! :D

*insert squealing noise here*
omg rollz thats so cool!!!! i can only imagine the permanant smile plastered all over your face! Congrats congrats congrats! :D

hands up..... whos just a little bit jealous??? :O

rollsroyce,

congratulations on your new job.

As an international FA I find it interesting to hear from your report that the domestics will be taking more of our flying by operating to Mumbai and Narita.

Given that the 743 currently operates SYD-BOM and SYD-NRT I'd be very interested to hear how that will be achieved.

I'd appreciate any advice on the above.

Cheers,

Jettlager

hi rollzRoyce,

congrats!

just make sure you eat properly and don't drink too much during EP's. I dont want to sound like your mum but you will handle it alot better if you have all your wits about you. Just remember that the instructors are your friends and don't want you to fail so if you need help just ask them.

enjoy it as it does get easier!

Jettlager,

the Perth s/h crew will be doing Narita, HongKong and Singapore out of Perth next roster on the airbus. i don't know whether they could do the same out of Sydney.

cheers,
H

j/lagger etc dont know if this helps but,have been told by union rep that next sh eba is not 3 hrs of eastern standard time but proposed to be 5 hrs to allow more ports..cheers gigs

gigs,

thanks for the info.

I'm interested in hearing how your and your other shorthaul collegues feel about the fact that at each EBA you FAAA representatives undercut and undermine the longhaul division's traditional INTERNATIONAL flying.

Our conditions are under attack from management and yet it could be argued that the MOST damage done to us is done by the shorthaul division.

We don't understand the ethics of it. Is self interest at the expense of others the norm and considered without shame at shorthaul?

Jettlager

P.S. What was that band payment thing all about?