Yes, it's obvious that company policy at Easyjet is to continue the beatings until employee morale improves.

Stick to the rules and bring food that's allowed with you then?

Hundreds of thousands of airport workers across the UK manage to do so fine each day.

In BA there was/is a strict management policy that says staff on duty or leisure travel must refuse the offer of wash bags, amenities etc.

I was fortunate to travel on Concorde, which I'm sure you are aware, gave quite valuable gifts to customers on board.

Seated in front of me were two well known BA Directors when the wash bag and gifts were distributed by crew not only did they take them but actually asked the crew if they could have two each!

A classic case of 'do as I say not as I do'.

To me it seems the the flight manager should have been interviewed and at the end of the day something trivial as this they have had to splash out a large egg sandwich in cash to an employee I have flown many times with easy jet crew always fine but I would say to them watch your backs who you are flying with?

Quite simply, it does not revolve about carrying ppl by air anymore.
Don't know much about Ezy, but a large chunk of profits for Ryan comes from contributions by the airports they serve. Without them they'd probably fold. I really doubt they could turn a profit simply by selling tickets and filling the seats.

I am all for private operators making legitimate profits, but if this story is true they went way over the top.

All's well that ends well?.... What happened to the other member of staff involved?

750XL
 

Quite clearly you don't understand UK airport security, they make up the rules as they go along, what might be seen as perfectly innocent cheese & pickle sandwich at one airport would be considered to contain pickle , that is a sauce and therefore a liquid and therefore contraband at another airport.

Getting the average workers lunchbox through security is a minefield and if you protest they will try to take away your airport pass....... no pass no job.

This is one of the reasons airlines supply crew food.

A & C is correct.

I have seen a sealed tin of Weightwatchers beans being taken off a cabin crew member at Gatwick because it didn't state the water content on the side of the tin. It had just been through the scanner as well.

A homemade lasagne (in a Pyrex) got through ok though.

Meanwhile, thousands of bottles of water get waved through the security gate after a nominal check and a written confirmation that the load has been security packed at source.

That is what we are up against in the UK. Each UK Airport will have various views on how it applies the basic security rules.

Locals will know the local idiosyncrasies but it is much harder to keep up if you travel around the UK.

I know of bottled water removed from one guy driving a bowser full of fuel through the security gate!

Nutloose

How do we know the bottle of water, was in fact not a bottle of explosives :-)

Don't know how to input bangy head thingy

My airport has a list of allowed/disallowed items on the wall at all staff security points, why don't you ask your airport for a copy? Seems sensible to me

750 - Good idea, but most will tell that they do not disclose any security information. For example, someone might try to get beans in a tomato sauce past the Rsoles when in fact only Caneloni beans in brine are permitted. Such security breaches can not be permitted!

As an aside, I hope no security muppet ever asks for my help because I'll give them a full 20 years of abuse back in spades.

PM

One of the biggest threats to you're existence in Stalinist Russia was you're fellow citizen. The "diligent "crewmember on that flight would have been quite safe in such a regime, until the of course, the zealot replacement arrived.

For anyone to condone the actions of the employer and the informer is really just a representation of the climate of the state. To have ones livelihood and potentially future prospects ruined for consuming a discarded sandwich is grotesque.

We still live in age where children are being bombed out of existence, where atrocities are committed and condoned by state authorities......and people get people sacked for eating a f***ing sandwich.......!!!!

Going back a bit in the thread......
OK, here's how a very senior Ryanair executive explained it to me in the chat after a meeting, when I said I just couldn't understand how they got a better average yield than most "legacy" airlines, on the routes on which they competed.

"It's simple," he said, "we sell 20% of the aircraft at silly prices that make everyone think we have cheaper fares than anyone else. We don't even budget for that income. We sell 70% at prices around £30 - £40 per sector (this was more than 10 years ago) and we make a reasonable profit on that. Then we sell the last 10%, if we can, as "last-minute" fares to people who need to travel urgently, at up to £200 per seat. That income is pure bunce on the bottom line."

At that time they got less, proportionately to the ticket income, from other sources such as catering, punitive "fees", "priority" boarding, hold baggage etc etc than they do now. But I bet that just contributes to the bunce.

It would be interesting to know how much revenue locos make from inflight sales of food and drinks. Also is there a sale or return on used sandwiches and other persihables? That might explain why locos don't like crew eating the profits.

If I may, this is not an airline issue. It is entirely common that companies that offer catering have rules regarding employees taking food. It is entirely commonplace, that when someone "lifts" some food unathorised, sometime with extremely sound purpose, some asswipe jobesworth will shop them, because that's what asswipe jobsworths do.

Off the top of my head I can think of three instances I have personally witnessed...

A PT in a gym, took an orange...and gave it to a customer!!...sacked.

A burgerflipper, took a burger and gave it free to mate...sacked.

A team of department store fitters, took some dried up food, past midnight, because they had been left nothing to eat, on an all night job. Not sacked because a director stepped in and offered to sack the fkn jobsworth who reported them instead.

That's the greedy, sucky, profits-for-the-board, fkd up world we live in now.

And judging by democracy's latest finest hour, it's world a lot of people are happy to live in.

What is this about "jobsworth"?

It has been made abundantly clear over a decade or more that consumption of pax supplies is a sackable offence. How or why could this suddenly become a debatable matter once one is caught? What sort of logic makes it desirable or necessary to allow a red-handed thief a second chance?

Who assumed the stuff was destined for the bin? If another sector was to be flown this is a good that can no longer be sold for profit. The implication is surely obvious.

Even at the end of the day one may not indulge in uneaten pax grub on pain of the sack, the implication being that it could have been deliberately held back from sale - "sorry, sold out" and scoffed at end of duty. Sadly that is the EJ attitude of trust towards people in charge of 150 pax or £60M of aeroplane.

Sick? Paranoia? Grossly unreasonable? Maybe. Possibly. Even probably. But without a doubt a response to the huge levels of theft from the on board catering supplies. Can you really blame them?

It's a pretty strange attitude in a "professional" aircrew forum that disagrees with this...in any way, shape or form.

XL750
 

Your airport may have a list of permitted items but crew don't just fly from one airport, each airport has its own interpretation of the national rules and the brainless numpties who take pleasure in interpreting the rules in the strictest way.

The whole thing is a mess with no common standard, if a crew member buys something to eat away from base it is a gamble if it gets past security an if you loose you will not be eating for twelve hours.

Although not in the UK, I did actually witness the farcical scene of two heavily armed police ... machine guns, hand guns et all setting off the scanner as they walked through ..... and then being brought back to be checked with the wand !

:ugh:

A and C - You are totally correct. But this is where we come in. If the cabin crew are not able to fly because they are unable to bring in their own food you delay the flight until they are properly fed. Nothing works better than delaying a flight. And don't forget the ASR should any pressure be placed on you. I've not had a problem and I don't expect one.