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Ramper1 26th Apr 2013 18:32

Are qantas still recruiting? If so, where can I find the application form? Looked on website and there's nothing about f/a

Ka.Boom 29th Apr 2013 03:34

Current Status
 
Base is currently being "rightsized"
No recruitment in the short term

CabinCrew747 29th Apr 2013 18:22


Base is currently being "rightsized"
No recruitment in the short term
The base has actually just completed a recruitment drive for 80+ crew last week.

Thanks.

DutchStar 29th Apr 2013 20:43

Qantas London base
 
CabinCrew747 wrote "The base has actually just completed a recruitment drive for 80+ crew last week."

Last week, on a flight AMS/LHR I sat next to a lady who started chatting to me and told me she had an interview for the London base...

Ka.Boom 30th Apr 2013 00:22

Well Well
 
I stand corrected
Perhaps a London Dubai Berlin Dubai London pattern is in the wind...?
Recruitment indicates two things...growth or attrition.
Fatigue and subsequent upline sickness seems to also be a factor
Any one know which it is ?

Mick Strigg 8th May 2013 09:43

This new DXB short stopover is playing havok with crew health. Surely they must do something about this before they have so many off sick that they cannot operate!

vctenderness 8th May 2013 12:05

What is the slip pattern then?

A night stop Dubai and then what length of duty day?

QueenBuzzzzz 9th May 2013 02:02

The QF2/1 is an arrival time of 07:20am, then a 17:15 hour slip, then a report time of 01:05am, then a 9 hour duty.

The QF 10/9 has a 39 hour slip, or continues down to Melbourne for a full 8 day pattern.

Massive recruitment about to take place in Oz as well.

A380-800R 10th May 2013 03:37

I think you'll find that the large recruitment in OZ for the 380 is due tothe fact that Australian based crew will commence flying through to Londonshortly. The high sick leave and fatigue issues of the London base with the dayslip in Dubai and the fact that crew are starting to leave in droves to flywith BA, will lead to the eventual closure of the base.

Firecat 10th May 2013 07:38

Massive recruitment about to take place in Oz as well.
At present positions advertised are an EOI only
The positions will be most likely be for domestic bases in Perth or Adelaide

QueenBuzzzzz 10th May 2013 10:33

No, the positions are for QCCA A380 Sydney and Melbourne bases. We received emails today asking us to recommend friends and family to apply.

Apparently London recruitment start dates are on hold until the end of year.

I also believe we'll start to cross crew to increase efficiency, well, I'd like to hope so!

Firecat 30th May 2013 07:47

LHR Slips
 
8 Day patterns to LHR now confirmed for SYD and MEL based Crews
Slips in DXB both ways

Chopper133 30th May 2013 23:10

Uk crew?
 
So does this mean aus crew will operate dub to lhr sector? Qantas has just finished 2 weeks of AD's in London!
What was the point of that?
Fire at?

Firecat 31st May 2013 04:46

Oz Based Crews to LHR
 
Oz Crews will operate DXB LHR Sector according to my sources
There is also rumours of EK leasing a/c to QF to operate sectors between
DXB and European ports where EK either has no rights or has used all available slots.
Berlin comes to mind
Anyway interesting times and hopefully some growth for mainline

Chopper133 31st May 2013 06:28

Uk base
 
So if the aus crew are operating the dxb lhr flights there will be no need to have a uk crew at all? So big redundancies on the way to the uk crew?

Big waste of time running the recruitment days in the uk for more cabin crew and an even bigger waste for the people that went to them

Flying Daruma 31st May 2013 09:25

I think we will be cross crewing but I don't think there will be redundancies happening in LHR. There's currently a lot of people who are finishing their 2 year contract from AUS base and returning home. This means that they will have reduced numbers and cross crewing is most likely the temporary solution as they sort out the recruitment for QFCC UK.

Please remember it can take up to 3-4 months to recruit & train crew. It doesn't mean there will be redundancies or that we won't be hiring simply because LHR trips are appearing on the upcoming roster.

QueenBuzzzzz 31st May 2013 21:27

Flying Durama is spot on. The LHR trips out of Sydney are only twice a week and 50/50 SYD and LHR crew. This makes the LHR base more efficient and certainly doesn't spell the end of the LHR base. OZ crew may be going all the way through to LHR, but on the flip side LHR crew are also coming all the way to OZ.

It's a positive thing for both bases.

It also may only be temporary, as it has been in the past.

Firecat 1st Jun 2013 00:01

Cross Crewing
 
Will lift the standard of service in one base and lower it in another....lol

Chopper133 1st Jun 2013 05:29

Sounds more positive from you guys. Fingers crossed eh!

Happy Flying!

A380-800R 2nd Jun 2013 01:17

No there certainly won't be any redundancies at the base, just a gradual reduction in numbers and I doubt very much there will be anymore hiring. Rumour has it that the QF 9/10 maybe pulled due to horrible load factors and the aircraft deployed elsewhere. Anyway only time will tell.

boredofit 3rd Jun 2013 11:03

!
 
There won't be any redundancies at London. Considering that the basic pay per crew member is £7000 per person less than main crew at QCCA this saves the company 5million+ each year. Then there is the fact that there is no hotel, transport, allowances to worry about in London this is a lot of money saved.

Australian based crew are coming to London next roster as London crew have gone to Australia for the past 2 months. Which seems to be normal for this time of the year. European summer starts now and lots of our crew have annual leave booked in for July,August,September which was obviously booked well in advance before Dubai started and some crew have obviously moved on which happens in every company, the new flying doesn't tick everyone's boxes. Hence our crew numbers are down for the summer season.

As for the loads yes at first they where down but now both flights are operating nearing full loads :).

Crew have been upline fatigue but if you think about this for a second, crew on
A 3day 2 off 3day 2off 3day 2off 3day 2off

We are awake all day before we go to work, we fly to Dubai max 1 hour break, some crew sleep a little in Dubai but check out isn't until midnight some people are awake for many hours before call then a night flight home followed with 2 days off. Do this non stop and some crew are hitting the 18-20 night flights a roster, with no sleep either side so please put yourself in this persons shoes and say you wouldn't feel the pressure. It's not the 3 day trip that crew are worried about its the missed nights sleep and constant day rest. If you have your own opinion keep it to that.

For many years there has been rumour after rumour that the base will close. I know lots of crew would love it to happen so they can come to Europe. But this is an established base and works well in London. Customer satisfaction is always high and we are a great cost save for the company in a whole.

Everyone in London applied for an advertised job and they don't deserve to be constantly worry what other crew are saying around the company, on board or around the pool in Dubai. Nobody will no about any base until its officially released so let's keep a happy workplace hey!

Chopper133 3rd Jun 2013 15:00

Interesting post and i hope the Qantas UK base does remain open and people get to keep their jobs. It does make sense to keep it open if they are making huge savings having a UK based crew.

But why did they hold 2 weeks of Assessment days recently to employ more cabin crew?

It does seen a bit of a waste of time to start a recruitment campaign when they have just merged with Emirates.

Hopefully the LHR DXB flights will continue to grow allowing new crew to join Qantas.

A380-800R 4th Jun 2013 12:25

Both flights are operating at near capacity are they? I'm not sure what flight your looking or operating on but it's certainly not the QF9. It's leaving Melbourne with an average of over 200 spare economy seats and business class around half full, (certainly great for staff travel)and this as we enter peak season in Europe! The only days it dips below 200 spares is on the weekend. The return out of Dubai is not much better with an average of well over 150 spare seats. Loads ex-Singapore are running at way less then 50% into all Australian cities, so trust me when I tell you it's not only the London base crew that are worried!

Emirates tie-up fails to boost Qantas performance - Travel & Hospitality - ArabianBusiness.com

Firecat 5th Jun 2013 03:26

Everybody is Worried
 
Load factors on the 81/82 are way down.As are the loads on the 5/6
We are all concerned that international mainline is on the path to oblivion
Not happy days.

dizzylizzy 24th Oct 2013 00:24

Those of you who are smart would move on to VS or BA, and create a career for yourselves there.

As far as the base closing, remember that it only takes one announcement one day to change everything, just look at the AO peeps. That morning they were all reassured by the managers that it wasn't closing until the announcement that afternoon.

CabinCrew747 24th Oct 2013 13:43

Fear not DizzyLizzy, 3 initials classes are underway as we speak, with more to come. Maybe you have a case of sour grapes but nonetheless, don't bag on other careers.


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