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cabinhostie 18th Jun 2008 08:33

Management have seen what savings can be made by eliminating/reducing overnights at Jetstar, lets hope you guys dont suffer like we did.

OldBoiler, you are too right, we don't want that to happen.

We need to support the engineers eba actions because if they win this, it will give our faaa precedence for our eba negotiations and hopefully nothing like what you guys have already gone through will happen to all QF bases.:eek:

We need to solidarity now, not division between the bases.:)

There are a lot of great crew out there, lets stick together :ok:

ruffrider747 18th Jun 2008 09:32

Oh how very very true
 
Oh I love that explantion of management how very very true:D:D

Sistema 18th Jun 2008 23:05

saving moniesss
 
when jq pulled overnights the difference was the jq crew worked their behinds off! more then before..
but with us, im on beautiful home res and loving every minute! easiest buck i have ever made! so not sure this is saving money for qf s/h?

is there a meeting tomorrow? fingers crossed...

FNQcrew 19th Jun 2008 05:05

was anyone else listening today on crew vioce when queen bee herself said cns base is staying put? so what will this meeting hold then, all I hope is that they don't decide to meet again in the future but action some transfers out of there so we don't have half the people sitting on res in the future and we don't get flying at the expense of other bases!!
transfers,transfers...

airbus_galley_girl 19th Jun 2008 07:09

Qantas Crew Voice
 
Sorry guys I missed crew voice today, any new udates?

mark sicknote 19th Jun 2008 09:44

Sorry for thread drift but...

Flying into HK from LHR a few years back in a Qantas aircraft on New Year's day got the call from the gents up front:

"Ladies and Gentlemen etc...Captain from flight deck...just begun our approach into Hong Kong where First Officer xxxx will attempt the landing."

2 Minute pause as aircraft begins descent.

"Ladies and Gentlemen. First Officer xxxx from the flight deck. I will indeed be attempting a landing at approximately xxxx local time."

Bless the Qantas crew and their Oz humor. Made my flight a memorable one. Best "Crews Voice" I've heard!

Best,

Sicknote:ok:

tong 19th Jun 2008 13:47

Word is it will be closed... If I was a gambler I would get on it at about 1000 to 1 odds...

Qstar 23rd Jun 2008 07:02

A380 Flying Where are we heading!!!
 
Ok I have seen today that the A380 is a dedicated crew and you will only fly on this aircraft only!!:{ (QCCA ONLY)
Qantas crew can swap back after 2 years or they also have to stay dedicated to the aircraft permanently after this time.
We have been so screwed by this it breaks my SPIRIT. Would you dedicate yourself to an aircraft and never be able to transfer back? It affects everything in our work place. Qantas have finally divided us beyond our imagination :{
We now have SH , MAM, LH, QCCA, A380, London / Auckland / Bangkok Bases. What is next 787 Dedicated? In the UK, BA crews were unhappy with pay conditions being harassed over sick conditions and feeling that they were not VALUED as a work force. THEIR UNION (Which is all BA CREWS SH / LH) took action against the company and a stop works were called. BA got back to the union real fast and it was sorted and a better deal was done. (this is FACT) WE NEED 1 UNION FAAA - FLIGHT ATTENDANTS ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA....... AND TO WORK AS ONE!!
With 20 A380's what is to happen to the qantas work force? Maybe I should apply now with QCCA cause I feel in 5 years will be working for them anyway. (I btw am not having ago at QCCA these guys do work hard and are CABIN CREW like all of us no matter who you are working for!!):=

Coleman Myers 23rd Jun 2008 08:59

QF crew
 
Just a quick note to say your new premium economy is great and you guys are too :ok:

Qstar 24th Jun 2008 00:16

A B P

So true!! Look forward to seeing the same as what happened in london, so many new crew on a flight that know one knew what do to and the experience goes right out the window. (again not having a go at london base).
My advise QCCA don't take it!! And look out EBA 9, by this time I hope we have our **** together........:ugh: like BA work together get better conditions to keep the flying and share the destinations.

indamiddle 24th Jun 2008 01:24

anyone have any idea what is going to happen with the l/h base in melbourne? with the A380 taking over the mel/lax sector and tokyo getting the flick what flying, if any, will they have left? i have the same question re the s/h base in cairns. anyone heard anything?

not4thefainthearted 24th Jun 2008 05:14

re; split crew and unions
 
I can't believe that there isn't one union, sounds like Qantas set this one up. what's wrong with you guys? don't you believe in looking after yourselves?:confused:

Every Flight Attendant I have met has appeared to be intelligent but allowing a company like Qantas do what they do to you seems like stupid and selfish behavior.:=

Create some solidarity, all join the unions and create some strength amongst yourselves. Then you can force the unions to work for you, maybe even unite.

A strong union can create much better working conditions for you and remember, a plane with passengers cannot fly without trained cabin crew.:ok:

justforme 24th Jun 2008 05:47

QStar and Not4thefainthearted Hear' Hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever6719 24th Jun 2008 06:17

Amen to that!
We all really need to finally pull our fingers out once and for all and email/phone our respective unions and GET THEM to start looking at joining.
Forget all the past excuses about one not wanting to work with the other, bla bla bla, we really have to get serious NOW!!!

Im going to tell as many crew as I can to start a campaign of getting the word out there to get the unions to start doing some SERIOUS negotiations to merge.

ITS TIME!!!

fluffyderby 24th Jun 2008 15:37

I think you need a reality check MrPaxing
 
Perhaps the rate of pay cannot be reduced per se as it is covered by legislation.....however condition deterioration and manipulation of rosters so F/A's actually end up earning less money is a reality. It is already happening at short haul.
For example. What kind of flying do you think is eventually going to be left for the F/A's who don't want to fly on the A380(for more hours at less pay!)? All of the long range stuff will go, the only choice will be (drum roll) you guessed it...regional trips.

Rumour has it that some long haul trips are already being kept out of the roster build for QCCA F/A's to do....the more expensive routes I assume. Funny how a QCCA person can be on a trip that a QAL crew member bid for.
Don't worry though. The union will police it...more of a reality check if you believe that!

peanut pusher 25th Jun 2008 01:34

BKK Base update ???
 
BKK base was put on a short extension of contract due to expire shortly.

Does anybody know if they have been offered anything else ?

Some seem to think thats it for them and they will be finished up.

skylarker 25th Jun 2008 19:19

BKK base just had a new contract signed off and will be around for while yet.

Good news for them after alot of uncertainty these past few months.

GalleyHag 26th Jun 2008 00:48

How do LH crew feel about the new L.A. hotels? Compared to the current one they look pretty ordinary, however the location may suit crew more is that the case? The new hotels are contained in a notice on the CC website.

twiggs 26th Jun 2008 05:20


Originally Posted by GalleyHag (Post 4204445)
How do LH crew feel about the new L.A. hotels? Compared to the current one they look pretty ordinary, however the location may suit crew more is that the case? The new hotels are contained in a notice on the CC website.

Considering a few years ago we were fighting the company in the AIRC to get out of the downtown location, I think there will be many of us that will feel much safer in Costa Mesa.
And for those that still want to stay downtown, you will still have the option by doing JFK trips.

Qstar 26th Jun 2008 10:29

Thought Of The Day
 
Ok....
In years to come say 5-10y LONG HAUL has 3 devisions - L/H - QCCA - A380
747 aircraft sold off, scrapped, 744 sold off, scrapped, 767 to short haul.

QCCA - Fly A330 - B787
QCCA - A380 ( 20 + Aircraft) now the Flagship of Qantas (Dedicated Crew)
QCA - A330 - B787

This 5y EBA states B787 is for Long Haul crew, but alas by the time they arrive our EBA is out of date and we need a new EBA9.
Maybe B787 will be dedicated too, or QCCA A380 - B787 :eek:

This means we no longer employ QCA LH Cabin crew, promotions these also slow down to a trickle as we need them only in QCCA. :confused:

Does anyone else see this or am I being over the top worried, when I have nothing to be concerned really about...... :uhoh:


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