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eurofly35 1st Feb 2007 17:30

British Airways - Wannabes & Recruitment
 
Hi everyone!

Im just wondering do you have to have a lot of flying experience to work as cabin crew for british airways? Also, how fast are people promoted ( from JCC to IFS etc...), and what are the hotels and overnights like?

Hope to hear from you soon! :)

Eurofly35

Smell the Coffee 1st Feb 2007 19:33

12 months minimum was the usual criterion; promotion - varies, but generally, SLOW. Shorthaul - minimum 2.5 years, probably more (depends on the company's needs, which constantly change). Longhaul - varies, but usually much longer (10 years +)...
Hotels vary from acceptable to luxurious...most are in the city centre, with a few exceptions (Istanbul, close to airport, Stockholm - Uppsala). We use the usual brands (Intercont, Sheraton, Hilton and of course, the fab Holiday Inn).
Not sure what info you need regarding 'overnights'? Social scene downroute varies enormously...longhaul crew generally disappear into their caves (sorry, hotel rooms) until it's time to report again. Some shorthaul crew do the same, although it's 50/50; you can have some outrageous nights out - room parties followed by clubbing/pub crawls and then back to more room parties...on other nights, you'd better bring your laptop & DVDs....
Trips vary from 2-sector 3-day trips (LHR-ATH-LHR) to 8-sector 3-day trips (good for money, although you may end up slashing your wrists)...
On balance though, I'm very happy at BA LHR; lots of variety in routes, trips & crew. Probably the best terms & conditions of any UK airline...
Not sure when we're next recruiting, although rumours are flying around that LHR shorthaul recruitment is around the corner.
Hope that helps... :ok:

eurofly35 1st Feb 2007 20:41

Thanks a million! That info helps a lot as BA is sometimes a bit hazy regarding crew experience requirements!

Hope you enjoy your next trip!
Eurofly35:) :)

banewboi 2nd Feb 2007 11:59

management have said that recruitment would be as temp lhr sh only and when the temp period is up permanent contract at lgw sf will be offered

Smell the Coffee 2nd Feb 2007 12:44

If that's the way forward as far as recruiting new entrants is concerned, I feel VERY lucky to have joined BA as permanent LHR.....not sure what LGWSF is like - I'm sure the peeps are a blast (young, eager etc.) but I can't help feeling a bit sorry for them.. :sad:

newbagr 4th Feb 2007 21:05

hahaha,i dont blame you mate, i work at SFGatwick and i think its pretty horrible.... crew are lovely but what the company does there goes further than what you can think! name it and its done! 3 crew on s/h...done 1 down in longhaul done.... paid pretty bad for working a lot harder ....done. with all due respect... it doesnt feel like BA..maybe it isnt..i dont know if recruitment will be via LGW it d make sense...though knowing BA managerment i am sure they wont do it as they would do nothing that made sense and everything to piss off the crew!

newbagr 4th Feb 2007 21:11

and baneboi can i ask you something? I ve heard this rumour going round about recruitment via LGW....though at the same time i ve heard an other rumour( quite strong) that LHR EF perm is just around the corner.One seems to contradict the other..Where did u get your info from?....i believe the summer season is not far and within a months time we d see what BA plans are

speedmarque 6th Feb 2007 19:33

BA Need 700 temps for LHR Worldwide Summer 2007
 
Title says it all really. Starting training from March onwards, six month contract, option to transfer to LGW Fleet IF NEEDED THERE.

Good luck all who will apply

lovethesky 6th Feb 2007 19:42

lets see
 
still not advertising, starting in march??? ba couldnt even get bags to pax in under 2 months let alone get new cabin crew working for them.
lets hope it doesnt happen there are hundreds of crew waiting for longhaul. maybe ba is punishing them for wanting to go on strike??
yet more happy ba staff then

apaddyinuk 7th Feb 2007 01:13

Hehehe....You think thats bad for punishment??? They are even now preventing us from parking in the visitors carpark outside Compass Center (our crew report center) so we cant drop off our duty free floats and Unicef collections!!!!! We used to be allowed to park there for up to 20 mins or so to do all the usual bits of post flight paperwork and stuff but NOOOOOOOO...They have decided to be petty!!!!!


But back to the thread in question!

Last year when they hired the temps for WW I heard an awful lot of moaning from them saying how badly they had been treated by the management and how they were lied to about being transferred to LGW. Many were under the assumption that they would be kept on at LHR WW.
This was only ever an ASSUMPTION. All the rest of us knew that they would either leave or be sent to LGW SF at the end of the 6 month period and thats exactly what happened. Please if you apply for the position, be fully aware of this. LGW is fun anyways so dont think you are being sold short.
Good luck to everyone who applies and I look forward to spending the summer with you...Ill be the Irish lad with a big scar on my right arm cos Ill just be back to work after breaking it! hehe!

malvin 8th Feb 2007 18:32

BA LGW are now recruiting.
 
Anyone interested, they are now recruiting and closing date is 10th March.

apaddyinuk 8th Feb 2007 23:26

http://www.britishairwaysjobs.com/ba...holoyasyimbyrq



Good luck everyone!

tofster 9th Feb 2007 09:56

They dropped the grade C requirement a couple of years ago. Have to admit pay at LGW is pretty low. If you are looking to pay a mortgage AND have a life I would look elsewhere.

Airside London 9th Feb 2007 11:18

It's not right the amount of training that Cabin Crew have to go through and thats the money you get . The cost of living is so high and the crew At LHR are on more money and just laughing at the LGW crew and I know that for a Fact as my friend is old contract and I have a few others on the new contract at LHR .

Well at least you get a free breakfast and you could say that Virgin Atlantic is no longer the worse payed Airline , Even Zoom Uk is better payed at LGW .

EuropaBoy 9th Feb 2007 13:38

Hi there,:D

I have a question is it possible to work for BA, while being on an unpaid leave from your current airline? :confused:

Thanx for respond,

EuropaBoy 9th Feb 2007 14:40

BA EF LHR Commuters
 
Hi everybody,

I have few questions for BA LHR crews:

- Are there many international LHR EF commuters? How many nights do you have to spend in London ( early check in/late check out)?
- What about bidding with Carmen for 3 day trips, blocks of days off?
- Any sample roster of a commuting person from abroad?

Thanks for all replies!:)

flyer55 9th Feb 2007 17:41

Well am going to add to the fire as BA Connect (now BA Cityflyer) is recruiting for Cabin Crew for either base EDI or LCY and starting salary is £10,750 pa plus FDP at £2.20 (LCY based crew receive £1,500 pa london allowance)

Not good and for a BA subsidiary to pay more than a BA mainline fleet

hottowel 9th Feb 2007 17:59

BA Cityflyer
 
Hi Flyer55, Can you give me details of how I can get in touch with BA Cityflyer... would be most grateful. Many thanks :)

Airside London 9th Feb 2007 18:00

hey have you got the link ..

Cheer's

malvin 9th Feb 2007 18:03

At least they have basic salary, unlike certain airline that hasn't.

flyer55 9th Feb 2007 18:14

Try this link
https://baconnect.baplc.com

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it should work !

jde 9th Feb 2007 18:22

I am afraid this is one of those dreary "what do you earn" type of questions. but would be really interested to know how the one fleet at LGW is settling in and how it has affected wages. sorry to ask, sounds a bit nosey, would love to work on a BA mixed fleet but would like a ball park of what I might earn ( if I'm offered anything that is!!:} )

Airside London 9th Feb 2007 18:27

Thats the internal site :) ...
Have you just got in from a trip !!

flyer55 9th Feb 2007 19:07

Ha ha ha will check for you ! Yeah your right so looks like it is internal at mo but watch this space !

Volant77 9th Feb 2007 22:14

LGW pay
 
A simple search would have answered your queries guys...

I joined BA at LGW in July and my highest monthly pay so far has been £1200. It's more like £1000 a month after tax on average.

Great job and people. But I'm going to be leaving soon. Can't live on that.

YONGE 10th Feb 2007 09:39

How is LGW salary made up?
 
Hi

Could somone help me answer the following.:rolleyes:

I know at LGW you have the basic salary plus the £2.30 flight pay from when you report for duty to when you clock off. Are there any other allowances on top of this that make up what you receive at the end of the month (e.g. meal allowance, overnight allowance etc)? I assume you get a % of duty free sales but presumably this doesn't make a massive impact!!

Also what sort of a social life do you have downroute? Is everyone quite worried about money and so don't tend to go out that much or is it quite lively?

Thanks for your help :ok:

flyer55 10th Feb 2007 13:59

Latest rumour on Galley fm is that recruitment done via LGW and crew transfer to LHR EF and so on and no more temps being taken on !

malvin 10th Feb 2007 14:14

Does BA not offer one rate for ground and then another rate for flying?

japanair 10th Feb 2007 17:23

British Airways LGW Recruitment
 
Hey guys

I,ve started filling in my BA application form but after consideration I,ve decided to take the risk of waiting for LHR recruitment. BA say that if you aplly for a position you cannot reapply within twelve months. If I withdraw my application will I still be able to apply for positions before the twelve months wait. I have not submitted the form yet and wondering is anyone in the same situation.

changes2007 10th Feb 2007 18:22

LHR
 
Reading the posts here do I sit tight and wait for BA to open the temp LHR cabin crew for summer 2007, or is it only a rumour?? Gatwick is too far away from me, I need LHR.

japanair 10th Feb 2007 20:21

Apparently LHR is coming in March.Recruitment in LGW first as its not peoples first choice then LHR after. Makes sense actually. All people desperate for BA will apply straight away then when LHR recruits only those who did not apply for LGW can go for it.

Matt101 11th Feb 2007 15:07

um really??
 
"apaddyinuk" glad you knew in advance that we'd be going to the Gatwick single fleet when it hadn't even been up for voting on - in actual fact my course was told that if the Single fleet was rejected we would probably be kept at LHR - it wouldn't be the first time temps have been kept on at LHR WW - and if you don't think we are being sold short at LGW have a look at my pay packet - the crew are fab but trust me some of you up the road have no idea what we have to put up with.

lukeylad 11th Feb 2007 15:12

I completed an online application for BA on Thursday. Could any one please tell me how long it takes them to get back to me.

Virginia 11th Feb 2007 21:34

Is there a link to BA Connect recruitment? Wouldn't mind being LCY based!

Thinking of applying to BA LGW but the money seems less than what I'm on at EZY. But would love to work for a legacy airline, not sure if I should wait till LHR recruitment starts!

missworld21 12th Feb 2007 10:53

BA recruitment
 
Hi there,

some help please! i see that BA are recruiting for LGW. I've never flown before but have good related experiecnce.i am a graduate in accounting but have always wanted to fly. would it be wise to apply or should i hang in for LHR recruitment drive? Also, do i have to live in London (i currently live in scotland) and whats the living situation/pay etc. like? some helpful guidance and insider info please! thanks :)

apaddyinuk 12th Feb 2007 14:09

Well Im sorry Matt...you were all screwed over BUT you applied for a TEMP position...there is no guarantees of anything after the 6 months and the very fact that you were offered a permanent contract in LGW is a bonus!

Your right, temps have been kept on in LHR WW in the past, but we are going back 10 years when things were very very very different. Im sorry if you feel hard done by but you were all misinformed, the rest of us knew exactly what was happening but a large number of the temps last summer just refused to listen and made it a little agenda! I must admit though, you were all a breath of fresh air the short time we had you!

SuperBoy 12th Feb 2007 14:32

If I could just add my 2pence so to speak. If you are unsure whether to apply to LGW or not. PLEASE don't. Wait for LHR to come up.

If it's not what you want or where you want to be then concider the implications as transferring will take a long time.

Thats it. ;)

missworld21 12th Feb 2007 15:12

LGW or LHR??
 
Hi superboy,

thank you for your reply. So that a no no for LGW and hold out for LHR?? any other tips or advice? much appreciated! :)

missworld21 13th Feb 2007 09:15

to superboy
 
also, who do you work for if you don't mind me asking? thanks ! :)

Matt101 13th Feb 2007 09:43

"apaddyinuk" actually I was offered a job on permanent EF LHR terms but BA cancelled our course - I know it's unique but..... I'm just saying I don't think even the company KNEW what was goign to happen (if we were misinformed it was by a CCM) it was all conjecture and Galley FM, despite that what's done is done, though SFG is hardly a bonus at £9k paycut from LHR WW I'm living on it til I can find something new or a transfer list (though it's been promised I won't hold my breath). And just an aside the last lot of temps to be kept on was 2 years ago not 10 - I spoke to one recently.

Sorry for my tone in these posts it's not personal I just feel that the company has really shat on the whole fleet - I feel more sorry for those that were incumbant at LGW and have to put up with it.

To those of you applying despite how grumpy I sound the fleet is full of amazing people if you want to work at LGW and await transfer to LHR it's probably your best bet of staying with the company as in future it is likely LHR will only recruit temps and then allocate you LGW if there is space as LGW is now NSP (Mainline BA Base) so many will be on a transfer list and jumping the gun would get BA in trouble with the Unions....again.

The money isn't great it's £9942 per annum basic (awaiting decision on whether this gets a 4.6% rise backdated to this feb) with various increments after periods of service. £2.32 an hour flight pay likely to increase to £2.43 soon which is paid from your report time until your clear from your trip back at base (you always get a minimum of £16.24 though even if a MAN there and back). Overnight allowance £6.72 / overtime is after 10.5 hours and is paid at 6.72 also and this doubles arfter 12.5 hours I believe. Dead heading is paid at £17.00 ish an hour and rest day working is paid a one of bonus of £89 ish you also get a paultry singel share of DF sales (no extra for being an operator though). If you're careful you can clear around £1100-1300 net a month.

On this you can't really afford to live in London (somewhere nice anyway!) (I'm trying) and there is no need- excellent train services to all the local places (Horley, Rehill etc etc) and after 6 months (when staff travel kicks in) many choose to commute via flight from all over the country (actually all over the world.) though if you do this you should be aware that on home standby you have 90 mins to report so you will probably have to put yourself up.

Purser promotion is good some 10 month old employees just got it and that ups your Basic to around £13000 pa (on the first rung of the ladder)

It's a lovely friendly little base with some gem routes - it is less money than EZY would be paying though. However you have to make a decison about the long term (if that's waht you're in it for) as transfer to LHR is supposed to be more frequent now and will put you annual income up by about £9k from a new entrant at LGW. I am "hodling out" to see if things improve financially or if the Xfer list gets in motion otherwise I can't see myself doign it long term.


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