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I would like to see short haul around in 10 years time if at all possible, and i really dont get the fixed link problem. Surely BA gain from increased productivity, you gain more time at home. The short turnround payment still exists so no loss of cash. The more BASSA fight these simple things the more everything else will come under the microscope.

Re: Willie Walsh's CC plans
 

The fixed link problem is simple, BA will have us operating all day (up to 4 sectors) without a break.

I don't care what the pilots do, or what any other airline does. It is not fair to get cabin crew working all day and not setting aside a single minute for them to rest and have a proper meal.

Re: Willie Walsh's CC plans
 

There is absolutely NO REASON why crew shouldn't have a break whilst flying. So long as the Purser is a good time manager this shouldn't be a problem. It is important for crew to have a break and something to eat
during their working day, just as important as providing a service to a passenger.

Re: Willie Walsh's CC plans
 

If the business is not competitive you have no choice. Why not stop stamping your feet and constructively try to heigten the productivity of the company, while incorporating sensible policies to ensure staff comfort and morale?

Re: Willie Walsh's CC plans
 

Have You Heard This,

Regardless of the Purser it is difficult on Eurofleet to get a break on the flight,maybe on the Athens,Larnaca you can get a sit down in the galley.On short sectors you are there to serve the passengers and rarely have a spare minute.

I tell you this from my practical working experience as a CSD on both Eurofleet and now Worldwide.On Worldwide we have set breaks and ensure people eat before their break.Even on our long flights when you try and have your crew meal:ugh: , even with the curtains pulled passengers for some reason still want to have a peep!!,so you never actually get any privacy for your meal.At the same time we still realise we are there for the passengers and not the other way round!!.

I have to say the workload of my colleagues is high and they must be given their chance to eat on a turnround. We like everyone else are entitled to 20 minutes break per four hours worked.

Cabin crew is not like working on the ground.I have worked in loading,baggage and check-in all of which are tough jobs in their own ways.Cabin crew is different you work at altitude and the pressure of the cabin can be very tiring.Up and down,pressurising and depressurising your body four times a day is not at the best of times good for the health.This is why I believe Eurofleet require a proper sit down meal and a break.

These are just my thoughts from experience.

WTDWL.

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Better get used to the sound of the hoover. I understand that CC will be directed to clean the cabin during short turnrounds. No matter how you swing you handbag's its going to happen sooner than you think. Its called competition!:E

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<Yawn> ZZZZzzzzz

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There is NO EXCUSE for not having time for something to eat whether on the ground or in the air. Even on short sectors there is the opportunity on turnaround.

Re: Willie Walsh's CC plans
 

I've been reading all these comments on how well above standards BA crews are treated, and I must say that:
-we have agreements that are quite similar to most major airlines(AF,UAL LH)
-we tend to have better work conditions that UK low cost carriers but the money we take home isn't much higher.
-I flew seasonally for AF and had about 18 days off a month, flew 9 yrs for UAL and averaged 16 days off a month, now fly for BA and have 10 days off a
month (for about the same take home money)
Conclusion:BA CC don't have it sooo nice and easy as some pilots like to think.
Also why does it bother you so much what sort of agreement we have or not have?At the end of the day I clear about 1700£/month and have 2 more days off than an office worker.I really don't see what it is that's so shocking about that .Maybe you should think outside the box ,and admit that, on the job market, a bilingual college graduate could end up with a much higher salary.

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Hmm well clearing £1700 isn't bad at all. I work at a university, I have a PhD and clear an overwhelming £1200 a month, which for London let's face it isn't much. I think PSCOs for the Met Police earn more than me. But then this just is a reflection of how highly the British regard their education system I guess.... as a result I'm waiting for my training date to be cabin crew as I probably will earn more and it will make a nice change :)

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The fixed links seem to work at EF LGW and it isnt just flight crew that dont get breaks Cabin Crew as well!!:ugh:

CTW - I apologise for responding to this a touch late on in the discussion. Generally I applaud you and your colleagues for your proposed stand in this matter, but the above comment has me a little annoyed. I'm saddened by your obvious blinkered approach to us office workers, as I constantly work in excess of a 12 hour day in the Compass Centre with nowhere near approaching 2 hours worth of breaks. I am in the very fortunate position of managing my time, but if I did not put in the hours it would reflect unbelievably poorly on me, my clooeagues and my department. The workload we now face warrants these hours also. My days are always of this length and this is MY choice. I do not have the luxury of mixing short and long sectors. The only difference is that you work at altitude, something that I have chosen not to do.