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Bidan 14th Oct 2005 01:25

Qantas Long Haul Auckland
 
Just wanting to know if anyone has heard back from Jetconnect after the panel interviews last week.... Still waiting!!! No news is good news I hope!!

mikeskeins 15th Oct 2005 05:48

Inr egards to answers...
 
Hey Bidan...

In regards to hearing, currently references are being rung, and their is still one more hurdle to over come. Photos, Paper work etc etc are being sent to SYD for the executive review. It may be a little longer if you are successful than three weeks to hear!!!

All the best

andie74 15th Oct 2005 06:08

Qantas website recruiting???
 
just read a post from a couple of weeks ago which mentioned that Qantas was recruiting- so checked the website and yes it appears they are.

just wondering how/why Qantas would recruit externally, when they obviouly have so many MAM casuals who have expressed interest (and filled in the forms) in full time work......

...unless of course the recruitment is not for full time work perhaps??? i heard mention of rumours of 'fixed term contracts' in the EBA/IR forum.

doorisarmed 15th Oct 2005 06:42

bidan I thought you were working with BA eurofleet in GATwick. why would u want to APPLY FOR JEtconnect

OZcabincrew 15th Oct 2005 18:08

Qantas definately aren't recruiting for full time positions, but i believe that they are just getting people to apply through the QF website and also the MAM website and then they'll just collate all of the applications together. The reason for doing this is that people may want to fly for QF, but have never heard of MAM so only apply through the QF website. Once they've gone through the applications then they'll start interviews and offer either MAM casual positions or whatever they've got up their sleeve? I too have also heard rumours that they'll offer fixed term contracts?

Oz

blondeontour 17th Oct 2005 06:10

QF recruiting
 
On Sat the Faaa told the EAA crew that QF may be recruiting for feb intakes..10 month FIXED contract..as the S/H crew eba is expiring..All new employees will be under a AWA award for the rest of their working life at QF(if they get in) as this is the new emploment laws that will be passed by the senate..a FAIRER work enviroment that all our tax $$$ are saying in the lastest govt.adds everywhere..therefor the FAAA & other unions will be slowly deleted from the work place...As for the progression for regional f/as to qf there may only be one left before qf terminates the "agreement".

Grove 17th Oct 2005 08:26

Qantas have been excepting expressions of interest for f/a for some time. Not sure if they are activly recruiting at the moment.
I attended group and panel interviews earlier this year [ group in Apr, panel in Jul]
Recieved e-mail soon after the panel to advise me that I had been successful through the panel interview, however no positions are likely to become available until mid 2006. It went on to say my application would be held untill the end of Feb 2006 then I will be contacted re: medical, reference check etc.
No mention though of short haul, long haul,fixed term or m.a.m.
Who knows what may happen???

ozskipper 17th Oct 2005 11:49

QCCUK Transfers (Aus to UK)
 
Just some general info that I came across last week :::

If permanent Qantas flight attendants wish to transfer up to the London base they can do so at any time, without having to wait for the current transferee's to go back.

This came straight from Lesley Grant - she was up in London recently and was asked during a Q&A session.

From what I understand, you need to speak with your CCTM to arrange.

Anyways, thought it was an interesting development and would share with those interested.

Cheers

peanut pusher 17th Oct 2005 13:15

A few have sneaked up here in the last 3 months
 
3 crew from Aus have joined LHR since the start of August, shhhh don't let the hate crew know.

OZcabincrew 17th Oct 2005 16:23

i also heard the rumour about fixed term contracts being offered to new recruits. I have also heard that QF will be asking for expressions of interest from current QF crew to become interviewers. Internal recruitment for interviewers will be early to mid 2006.

Oz

Trollywally 18th Oct 2005 06:02

Qf passes baton to J*
 
my Personal Title. Hey, PPRuNe is free isn't it?
posted 18th October 2005 05:22
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Qantas passes baton to Jetstar
Tues "Sydney Morning Herald"

Qantas passes baton to Jetstar
By Scott Rochfort
October 18, 2005

Qantas's plans to hive off a large chunk of its international operations to its low-cost Jetstar franchise are well advanced, with the airline looking to launch Jetstar flights from Australia to South-East Asia, China and possibly Japan in the second half of next year.

The national carrier is looking to lease longer-range aircraft for the budget airline, which initially will have a mandate to fly to destinations within a 10-hour flying range of Australia. It will form a major plank of Qantas's five-year plan to slash $3 billion from its cost base.

The Qantas board is expected to sign off plans for Jetstar International in early December. Jetstar International is expected to be run separately from Jetstar, which itself will launch international flights to New Zealand on December 1.

Like the domestic Jetstar, which was launched in May last year, it is expected the new carrier will take over less profitable international routes, such as Bali, Manila, Bangkok, Fukuoka in Japan and even Honolulu.

The carrier is also expected to open up more routes into Asia from smaller capital cities, such as Adelaide and Perth. Given the new Jetstar's longer range, it is speculated it will have two classes - economy and premium economy (or business).

Aside from attacking Qantas's cost base, the new Jetstar is also aiming to stem the growing incursion of carriers such as Emirates and Singapore Airlines on air traffic into Australia. Qantas's share of the international market into Australia fell from 30.4 to 28.3 per cent in the year to June.

The Qantas board is also expected to approve what could be the airline's largest fleet order. Qantas is looking at purchasing - and leasing - up to 100 new medium- and long-range aircraft. It is speculated a sizeable chunk of the order will be destined for Jetstar. Within Qantas ranks there is talk of the new airline even having a larger fleet than the domestic Jetstar, which will have a fleet of 23 jets by May next year.

The Qantas fleet order could include so-called "hub busting" ultra-long range aircraft such as the Airbus 340-500 and Boeing 777-200ER, and medium-range planes such as the B787 and A350.

Given the aircraft could take several years to deliver, Qantas in the meantime is looking to lease aircraft for Jetstar's initial incursion into Asia. It is expected Jetstar could wait until it takes delivery of its fleet of A350s or 787s before launching flights to Europe and the US.

It is unclear what the expansion of Jetstar means for the future of Qantas's other Asia-focused budget operation, Australian Airlines.

Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon declined to comment yesterday on Jetstar's international expansion plans or if it could result in Qantas surrendering some routes. Nor would he comment on the possible ramifications on Qantas's heavily unionised 38,000-strong workforce.

At the full-year profit results in August, Mr Dixon said: "Jetstar is going to be such an important part of Qantas … it will be just as important as the main line."

Qantas's plans to boost the profile of Jetstar internationally could meet stiff resistance from pilots. A list of so-called "reform candidates" recently won control of the Australian and International Pilots Association. Their campaign for control of the union was spearheaded by opposition to Jetstar launching international flights.

========================================

Sonique 18th Oct 2005 09:38

18 October 2005
Dear Australian Airlines Employees,
I understand that recent speculation in the media of a proposed Jetstar
International airline is creating uncertainty in the minds of Australian Airlines
employees.
Firstly, let me say that no final decision about proceeding with a ‘Jetstar
International’ has been made. These decisions will be made over the next
three to four months.
Although definite commitments are no longer possible in aviation, let me reiterate
what has been said in the past to Andrea Staines, Australian Airlines
Management and the media. Australian Airlines adds value to the Qantas
Group because it is fulfilling its mandate of allowing the Group to maintain a
presence on international leisure routes at a lower cost than possible with the
mainline. The establishment, maintenance and continuous improvement of
this lower cost base has been an important achievement of Australian
Airlines, as has been its outstanding customer service.
All businesses within the Qantas Group, both flying and non-flying, are under
constant review. Despite difficult operating conditions since almost the first
day of operations, Australian Airlines will continue to operate in this strategic
role for the foreseeable future.
With regards
GEOFF DIXON

FirstOfficer 18th Oct 2005 10:00

:{

I can't believe they are doing this :mad: it makes me :mad: :*

Where is Qanta's "Spirit of Australia" :confused:

:hmm:

Wed Webbing Woop 18th Oct 2005 10:33

OZ airlines
 
........this is the beginning of the end!!!!!

PER L/H base-gone!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to Regional flying. It was announced as the BIG shining star of the Wesst. Now, all those that up rooted, relocated, worked their butts off, supported the QF mantra-GET STUFFED!

Australian Airlines- ditto.

Crew relocated to CNS, worked tirelessly for the "group" (sic!! )-GET STUFFED!

Jet * is the beginning of the end.



Time to stuff the Red Rat @ the local taxidermist. Put up on the shelf and dream of the glory days when people were put before F#@!#@$$%%%'in shareholders & profits.

H_Girl 18th Oct 2005 11:25

where has it been announced that the Perth long haul base has gone?

The writing may be on the wall but last time i heard it's still open!

ladies and gentlemen 18th Oct 2005 12:17

Qantas Cabin crew UK interview
 
Hi all, I have an interview with QANTAS on Mon 24th Oct at LHR.
Was wondering if anyone who has been can tell me what to expect? Is the test on Australia verbal or written. Is it a panel interview etc. Any information would be greatly appreciated to prepare me for this interview. Thanks for your help.

Pro Golfer 69 18th Oct 2005 13:46

It makes sense. With the massive amount of sick leave occurring out of the LHR base with the pommy teenage girls, the constant turnover of staff and the appalling customer feedback surveys, they need all the experienced crew they can get!

wan2fly 18th Oct 2005 13:58

Are You For real !!
 
Pro golfer - who ever you get your info from, you better dump em !!

I have recenlty started with QF UK and all i can say is WOW !! - I have flown with a great mix of Aussie Thai and UK crew and they are ALL great - yeah a few moaners but hey your one your self aint ya ? get them everywhere and they will leave eventually just natural wastage I feel - There were no Young teenage girls on my course youngest about 25 oldest about 36.....

You have to remember that this is a new base and its not fully crewed so if crew go sick of course there is a little shortage, however, crew are comming on line all the time.....Plus this job is not for everyone some have wanted to do it all their lives and its not for them these people leave quite quickly... Give it a chance or are you one of those bitter crew who cant bear to see our fantastic customer service results....dont know whos you have been checking but they are deffo not QF LHR - I was only reading them other day and thought, "thats great !" .....

Enough of the negativity already !

Pro Golfer 69 18th Oct 2005 14:05

Good to see the QF spin team is on the ball. Keep up the good work!

:}

By the way a new record set the other day on the QF2. 20 operating crew, every jumpseat taken! Excellent customer service feedback from that flight!

wan2fly 18th Oct 2005 14:09

Pro Golfer
 
How wrong you are - I couldn't be further away from the "Spin Team" as you put it .....

I am a crew member who is proud to be here and loving it simple as....Is that so hard for you to accept?........;)

Boeing Dolly 18th Oct 2005 15:22

PERTH L/H Closed
 
The announcement is out.

Anyone have the phone number for the removalists?

Thanks QF for yet another move in a long line to build morale within the employee ranks.

Merry Christmas to all those longhaul staff in Perth base care of Geoff.

:(

ozskipper 18th Oct 2005 16:10

I'm not going to get involved in a slanging match or the like and I'm certainly not part of the Qantas spin team but....

I think everyone in Qantas is aware that we are not getting "appalling customer survey results". In actual fact we are on par or in some areas ahead of the Australian bases.

The London base is here for the moment - yes, we've all seen that bases come and go - but no one wishes badly of the Australian bases over here, so the continued barrage of ill will towards the London base (and at the wrong people I might add) is becoming tedious at best.

If you must attack the base, attack those that created the idea rather than those that work in it.

This should be the time where we work together rather than making the divide greater. You never know when you might need the support of the London base - ****canning now and expecting assistance later on might be a wee bit of an ask.

OZcabincrew 18th Oct 2005 16:14

hey, where did this come from? I knew it was on the cards and infact the crew i'm with were talking about it tonight, but hadn't heard anything final? I wonder what the "options" will be for them?

Oz

OZcabincrew 18th Oct 2005 16:21

it will be a sad day when a low cost carrier such as Jetstar becomes the nations airline!:{

qcc2 19th Oct 2005 00:07

per/lhr base
 
sorry to hear about the per base. know a lot of great people there who did a hell of a job. but as fly girl mentiones if the little dwarf can save 50c and put half in his pocket he'll shaft anyone.and as always most of the s**t coming out of his mouth is not worth listening too.

wan2fly
"You have to remember that this is a new base and its not fully crewed so if crew go sick of course there is a little shortage".
you mean more bad managemenmt decisions? sounds too familiar.

H_Girl 19th Oct 2005 04:11

Well, got the letter today!

Perth L/H base is to close at the end of Bid perion 242, 19 Feb 2006.

Our options are as follows:

Transfer to S/H Perth
Transfer to L/H Sydney or Melbourne
Transfer on leave without pay to Qantas Cabin Crew UK in London
Expressions of interest for redundancy

Even though we knew it was coming it is still a bit of a shock.

There are some very good crew flying out of Perth and because it is a small base we all know each other well.

At least a decision has been made at last and we no longer have it hanging over us with constant speculation.

Oh i forgot to mention that the "pretend" base manager as PerthFlyGirl called her is very conveniently on leave until first week of November leaving Andrew who should have been given the position himself, on his own to take all the heat from those of us going to the mailbox this morning.

At least he's been trying to contact everyone up line to let them know what is happening rather than them hearing it from the Qantas grape vine.

She certainly chose a good time to take a trip to the Uk. Maybe she's checking out job opportuities over at Qantas UK!

red or white 19th Oct 2005 05:49

Jetsta*
 
So jetstar is going international.

Are they recruiting or tarnsferring crew from mam and per?

airbus_galley_girl 19th Oct 2005 06:41

No, Australian Airlines crew will be transferred to JQ*Int. That's what I heard from a very reliable source.

Bad Adventures 19th Oct 2005 08:15

Just goes to show, you can't trust these management f**ks as far as you can throw them. The brainwashing that's occuring at the LHR base is another perfect example. People are leaving faster then they can hire them!

OZcabincrew 19th Oct 2005 09:21

that's what i though would happen.

MAM have nothing to do with Jetstar etc, they are only linked with Qantas mainline.

aussie

Bidan 19th Oct 2005 10:04

Doorisarmed..

What a memory you must have doorisarmed!! I was working BA Eurofleet LHR only for a short time.. Came home to Melbourne because I got home sick...Got here and thought WHAT HAVE I DONE... Hence my application to Jet connect.
Jetconnect have been checking my references so hopefully I am in there with a chance.

Auckland Based Crew..

Would love to know what trips you do other than L.A??

Also has anyone heard from Jetconnect yet??

ozskipper 19th Oct 2005 10:40

Sorry to hear about the Perth LH base closing - good luck with whatever you decide to do.

speedbirdhouse 19th Oct 2005 10:59

The following is an excerpt from a recent Financial Times article by their resident columist Tyler Brule.

Enjoy...........not.

Quote-

"Halfway around the world and back and increasingly confused.


........its now somewhere between Wednesday and Thursday and I believe I'm on the QF1 to London. The reason I'm unsure is that there's barely an Australian crew member in sight.
The back of the plane seems to be manned by Thai crew and First and Business by English flight attendants.
The experience doesn't feel very Qantas- more a set of disconnected people working on a 747-400 that's the flag carrier for a country they have no relationship with.
No doubt there are some short term cost savings, but for me, who's been around the world in a week, i'd like to know exactly where I am and who I'm flying with.
Qantas's finance department might be seeing an upside, but I'm only seeing brand erosion."

End quote.


Interesting, if VERY sad to see that the broader community are beginning to cotton on the the fact that the trough feeding scum running this company are selling 85 years of history, goodwill and heritage in an effort to line their own pockets. :yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

Wed Webbing Woop 19th Oct 2005 11:44

VALE Perth Base
 
Really sorry to hear the news today.

As mentioned in previous posts Ihad the absolute pleasure to fly with the Perth guys on a couple of CDG trips in 2003. They were really UP BEAT, fresh and dare I say -"engaged".

Keep your heads up guys-you've done good.

As far as QF management is concerned-does it really surprise any of us!!!!

I'm not going to launch into my usual tirade-only to say :

"what goes around comes around"

&

"what you shall sow you shall reap "

Pro Golfer 69 19th Oct 2005 13:13

Yes Speedbirdhouse

That article really does some it up and the premium class passengers are leaving in droves.

cartexchange 19th Oct 2005 19:48

midnight,
tell the poor guy the truth,
120 in HNL,its only for 2 SYD based F/A, not for the scabs.
and then tell him.her that most of that time will be spent sleeping as the 240 hour rosters you are getting is killing the poor things.
the HNL will be gone for AKL based crew.
You will be doing a lot of LAX/AKL trips on the 747-300, no horizontal crew rest and only 6 cramped seats.
Have a look at the bid book, code "C" for the 747-300.
have fun Midnight!

Bidan 20th Oct 2005 08:51

Midnight...Sent you a p.m

gigs 20th Oct 2005 09:05

hope you get a response biden cheers gigs:ok:

speedbirdhouse 20th Oct 2005 09:27

Our strike breaking friend is telling porkie pies. I've had a opportunity to fly with AKL based crew for most of this roster.

240 hours [and sometimes more] seems to be the norm for those that I have spoken to.

One particular girl has been instructed by her doctor to leave as the physical impact of the conditions QF impose on her have caused her to lose her menstrual cycle.

Another large group of FA's leaving the AKL base around the end of the year is the word out on line.

My advise for wannabees is to look to AirNZ for flight attendant positions.

They offer humane working conditions which can't sadly be said for Qantas..................

p m than sword 20th Oct 2005 14:31

Perth long haul base
 
Absolutely disgraceful!!!!!!
Perth base was operating efficiently until the short haulers voted to take all the int flying. Thanks guys!
I used to bend over backwards to please the customer cause i love what I do. Now im bending over but its not to help the customers, its cause qf are giving it to me and and all my mates in perth ...and that is something im not into.

This place had the greatest morale and very high customer satisfaction.
Just who is responsible for making these decisions?
Eg. 20 odd short haul casuals put up in perth for months to cover the extra flying from long haul; syd crews o/ nighting in per to cover the singapore trips.
And now that short haul have all of the regional flying, half of them dont want to do it, esp the NRT trips. more sick leave.C'mon, where are the so called cost savings?

Add to that 100 plus extremely pissed off long haul crew. Half of whom moved there with their kids to start the base.
We were lied to. It was in black and white..' the perth long haul base is not closing'
I dont teach my kids to lie. It's wrong. And this is wrong, very wrong!

Good luck everyone. Im gonna miss you.


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