So What?
 

Pity your are not a Cabernet.
Your posts might just be worthwhile.
Now, What was your point?

What was yours? As if I care to read what you're drinking? Pity you're not a wine critic.

Relevance?
 

This has no relevance whatsoever to Qantas,its direction or management.
Unless you hadn't noticed its the topic of this forum.
Play the Ball not the Man.

"Play the Ball not the Man."
Funny how some people don't take their own advice. ST, your posts invariably turn to personal abuse when someone disagrees with you.:bored:
As for the point Galley Power is making, it's clear to me (probably because I'm sober): you are repetitive, pretentious and pompous.

Back to the topic
 

The post regarding the Cabernet was made a few days.
I had two glasses.
I mentioned the wine as a comedic break.(Comic Relief)
Your opinion of me is of no consequence
Now can we go back to the topic?

Back on Track
 

" This has no relevance whatsoever to Qantas, its direction or management."

Hi ! New to this Forum. Has been an interesting hour or so reading the latest posts.

Yes, all this does have relevance. It has shown me some (not all)S/H are short of more than just "Haul" . Sadly a lot of these ex S/H somethings, be it Ansett/TAA or even Air NZ etc are now part of the L/H "so called management" and are blindly falling over themselves perpetuating the "Bonus for Blood " style of management direction, so loved by our VDD.

Actually had GOD (silent "O" )on a flight from JFK recently. He was charming, polite, friendly. Came into the (first class) galley and had a chat with the crew. Told us all about the future plans he has for Q. Trouble was, at the end of it I did not see any Q left. Just a lot of satellite sub divisions running on cheap O/S and casual or contract labour providing cheap flights to cheap destinations. He kept re-iterating if this did not happen, Q will not survive. A kind of "catch22" as in my opinion Q has ceased to exist in his mind already. (other than as a bonus machine for his own "team" before they move on to the next victim.)

Is that back on track, or have I said too much already ??

and there is more
 

its not just gd who is the driving force. as has been mentioned here before dame margret jackson sitting on a broomstick pushing gd along. she is the one sitting with hugh morgan on the business council of australia, spending many more millions, out of QF and other large companies, trying to tell you its in the interest of the country and jobs. oh, by the way teh 325000 jobs they keep raving about are mainly part time jobs anyway. OZ has now the largest percentage of part time workers in the OECD. i wonder why beazley and troops never refer to that?

"OZ has now the largest percentage of part time workers in the OECD. "


And our children's futures will be all the poorer for it..........:yuk: :yuk: :yuk:


http://www.rightsatwork.com.au/campaigns/november15

Q on ebay
 

" Qantas being sold all over Ebay like burnt pieces of Concorde"

Now that is an interesting thought.

A few months ago I went down "the back" to see why a pax had not disembarked yet. He was collecting all the used economy amenity packs and taking the Q lanyard out. Had about 40-50 by then. Says he puts them on ebay and sells them for about $7 to $10 each. Beats frequent flyer points !

Maybe Q should get the QCC1"visitors" involved. That way they could be doing something productive for the airline.

Thats a good point I was surprised when I flicked through the Annual Report and Qantas states they have grown jobs by x% which equals the equivalent of x number of permanent positions.

Included in their growth however, is a handful of permanent positions for cabin crew within Australia the rest made up of casuals through an external contact company, part-timers, contractors, off-shore and the list goes on.

Excellent creative report writing with the operative word being equivalent without the equivalent conditions and working standards of permanent employees.

what about the actu
 

speedbird what is the actu doing about it? not much i am afraid !!!

Which reminds me..............

http://www.actu.asn.au/work_rights/n...329_18579.html

There is So much at stake..............

VISITOR CENTRE NOW CLOSED
 

RADIATION JUNKIE

Maybe Q should get the QCC1"visitors" involved. That way they could be doing something productive for the airline.


.................................could not agree more.

Those imbeciles are beyond belief.Try this one as another eg of total ineptitiude.

I was sick for 5 days last week. After the 4th day my Team Leader calls me at home and says " oh hi, just calling to see that you're OK". I said . Of course I'm not OK, I'm sick, thats why I'm not at work, what do you want and why are you calling me at home?" . Team Leader says, " we have a duty of care to make sure all crew who are sick are OK "..........I immediately hung up and called the FAAAA in disgust.

What is this all about .How dare they call ??? How many other work places have to put up with this same bullying behaviour, from wombats who don't know who you are and care factor = zip, its all about their KPI's ( read bonuses ).

I'm all for the National day of action against Johnny Howards
" Mien Kamph" doctrine. BUT....

I propose a National day of action in protest to the Visitors. These weasles should be sent to a more suitable work place aka Depth Testers at the Sewerage Treatment Works!!!!!

Lets see their record:

-3 from MEL base ( including the Colonel )-GONE !
-4 gone from SYD base.-GONE
- Perth ....RIP.

Its time for Kylie to take stock. The experiment in using non operational management is a abject and total failure.

CREW NEED TO MANAGE CREW......... get it.

Visitors !
 

Now WWW !
Let us not be unfair to these "Team Leaders" .
The excersise has not been a failure from Q's point of view.
Mine was an insensitive, arrogant, deceitful fool.
Lied to me, lied to their own Manager to cover up harassment and unprofessional behaviour, accused my family of being dishonest.
But it's OK now. No longer a CC Team Manager. Has been promoted to a CC Operations Managerial position. You see, this is the sort of person Q wants to promote to future managment.

Quote-

"You see, this is the sort of person Q wants to promote to future managment."

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Too true Radiation junkie.
Rumour has it that a group of "visitors" approached senior management explaining that they were tired of the complaints they were recieving from CC about abuse being dished out by both "grant's pet sociopath" and the one that looks like a female version of "Lurch".

The response from management?

"Get with the program as that is the way we are heading".

And they wonder why they have the crew they deserve?:}

sociopath !
 

Mostie !
Wonder what it feels like having 75% of the people you are supposed to manage and the same % of fellow work colleages dislike you and think you are an incompetent fool .
Certainly not the work enviroment I would enjoy working in or get any satisfaction from !
But I guess there are some who have a perverse sense of self fulfillment.

But then, how do we get around these people and what is it in the Q "business plan" that warrants their vendetta style of behaviour. Especially as they are achieving "absolutely nothing".

After giving 28 years of my life to Q in loyal and exemplary service, my last few years before I "get out" are not exactly what I expected.

Harrassment
 

Next time you have a problem with one of these people suggest to them that you feel threatened and intimidated by their attention.
There is EEO legislation covering this.
Did this with the boofhead who is my manager.
Just about wet his pants and apologized for his intimidatory manner.
Haven`t heard from him since.
This was all over an e-mail I sent to Kylie.
Apparently I wasn't following "reporting protocol"

How long...........?
 

It'll be interesting to see how long QF can resist the temptation to sack lock stock and barrel vast numbers of us and re-hire on the cheap and nasty..........?

Their ability to do so will be quite legal under howards new anti employee IR laws.

Their excuse/ability for doing so?

Operational reasons.........


Qantas- The executive bonus machine.

I'm not cabin crew, but I do work for QF. One way to stop these people is to have a look in the policy and procedures manual and quote it back at them (a polite way to tell them to F**K Off).

Most of the managers I have come accross at QF have no idea what is in this manual and because of this you have them on the back foot.

I have seen it a number of times when they have gone to sack someone but failed because they did not follow the company procedure set down. I have seen this happen with department managers and even HR people. They all seem to have no idea what is in it.

Another reason to look in it, is that you can normally find some company rule somewhere that will help you cover your arse if needed.