please help with my assignment: how many crew per aircraft on your airline

[adi_t]

Hey there,
I am writing an assignment about airlines and trying to compare.
How many cabin crew every airline has per passenger in each class of service.
Let's say on a 747-400:
1. What is the configuration?
2. How many cabin crew work in each class?
Please help...
:-)

[Tu.114]

You will find plenty of information on aircraft configuration here.

With regards to the cabin crew vs. passengers ratio, there is the legal limit of 1 cabin crew member per 50 available (not necessarily occupied!) passenger seats. Less than that is not possible; more is up to the airlines.

[adi_t]

Thanks - I am aware of the 1/50 seats rule, but I what I am looking for is not the minimum, but the service minimum.
How many crew for 14 F/C?
In C/C? And what are the service guidelines in economy?
Thanks so much!

[Rickstar4]

On our 747s we have 14 Cain crew per flight.

Our 777 varies from 10-11 (route dependant)

[sierralima]

1 Cabin Crew per 50 Passengers or per 50 Seats?

Hey geys,

A friend of mine recently got asked in an airline interview if the Aircraft (737-800 with seating capacity of 189) was to take off with only 1 passenger, how many cabin crew are needed?

It seems illogical having 4 if only one passenger, but supposedly the legal requirement is 1 per 50 seats.

Any people with knowledge on this if you could shed some light?

Thanks

[Havana]

Did your friend ask how many passengers were booked for the return trip?

Maybe it was a full return load?

[sierralima]

Hey
I dont think he asked that. I guess that's a very valid and logical point you have just raised!

But yh, I just have no idea whether it's 1/50 seats or 1/50 pax.

But yh, I am sure it must be per seat based on the point that you just made!
Thanks

[Firecat]

Minimum Operating CC

This is dependant on the number of doors/exits on the aircraft.
All doors must have an operator.
Eight doors=minimum CC 8
At least this is how it operates in Australia

[Tray Surfer]

At my airline:

747-400: 14
777-200 without a First cabin: 10
777-200 with a First cabin: 11
777-300: 13
767-300: 7

A319: 3
A320: 4
A321: 5

Future aircraft will have:

787: 8
A380: 22

[bubblyguy]

For my work;

B777-300ER: Legal minimum 10, for service depending on route up to 13.
A330-200: Legal minimum 8, for service depending on route either 9 or 10.
B737-800: Legal (with dispensation approval) and standard minimum 4, for service for flights under 90 minutes 5.
B737-700: Legal and standard minimum 4.
E190: Legal and standard minimum 3.

Hope this all helps!

[Pontius]

A friend of mine recently got asked in an airline interview if the Aircraft (737-800 with seating capacity of 189) was to take off with only 1 passenger, how many cabin crew are needed?

Sierralima,

The answer to your friend's question is 4. On a public transport flight if just one passenger is carried then the minimum number of cabin crew is 1 per 50 seats, not pax. This assumes your friend was being interviewed for a job with the majority of European carriers, FAA or CASA. I think Canada still has 1:40 but I could very well be wrong with that. Private flights come under different rules.

This is dependant on the number of doors/exits on the aircraft.
All doors must have an operator.
Eight doors=minimum CC 8
At least this is how it operates in Australia

Not so Firecat. A carrier may carry more than the minimum and that's fine but the CAOs (CASA regs) are quite clear. A public transport (RPT, whatever you want to call it) aircraft having >36 seats, =<216 seats must have the minimum ratio of cabin crew to pax seats of 1:50. It used to be 1:36 but that changed some time ago. It may well be that your 8 door aircraft has 8 cabin crew and the airline has agreed to have one crew member per door but that is not the legal minimum requirement in Australia.

Not directed at anyone in particular: For all airlines, service standards will often dictate the normal minimum number of crew that are carried and these are often agreed with unions. However, just because it is a industrial agreement does NOT make it a legal requirement. The 1:50 ratio is the norm in most countries that I can think of (there will be plenty of exceptions) but then comes the fun of trying to cajole the crew into accepting that on the day

[obira]

Hi,

Sorry Pontius but in Australia Civil Aviation Order 20.16.3 - Air service operations - Carriage of persons (02/12/2004) still has a cabin crew ratio of 1 to 36 passengers (6.1(b)):

aircraft carrying more than 36 but not more than 216 passengers shall carry at least 1 cabin attendant for each unit of 36 passengers or part thereof;

Firecat is partially correct, 6.1(c) says:

aircraft carrying more than 216 passengers shall carry the number of cabin attendants as prescribed by CASA which shall not be less than 1 cabin attendant for each floor level exit in any cabin with 2 aisles

All the 8 door configs in Australia that I know of can carry more than 216 passengers; however, if the aircraft is carrying less passengers then there may be less crew as the order refers to passengers carried and NOT the number of seats.

Cheers
Obira

[Pontius]

Thank you, Obira, for your correction to my knowledge of the Australian rules. I stupidly assumed that by now they would have implemented the changes to those rules, the proposal of which began in 2010. So we'll stick to 1:36 until the rules are eventually changed and CASA are dragged screaming and kicking into alignment with most of the rest of ICAO

Lucky for everybody I don't fly RPT in Oz

[Firecat]

Well Done Obira

I couldn't be bothered
Looks like Pontius is a Pilate