Would you please not drink that in front of me ....
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"If only he returned the favour by having his wife breast-feed in privacy in the toilets."
Hmmm, don't see why the baby should be the only pax required to eat its meal in the loos....seems rather unfair when you look at it that way, doesn't it?
When will you chaps realise - it's not titillation (pardon the pun), it's not an opportunity for you to be offended, it's a meal, pure and simple. It's the best thing for the baby, and I've never seen anyone try and do it in any way other than as discreetly as possible.
Back on the main topic, - gosh, I don't know how I would have handled it - initially I'd have been so shocked I wouldn't have known what to say, but the thought of making it through the flight without several snifters (I'm not v keen on flying) doesn't bear thinking about... Can anyone think of a polite but assertive response?
Hmmm, don't see why the baby should be the only pax required to eat its meal in the loos....seems rather unfair when you look at it that way, doesn't it?
When will you chaps realise - it's not titillation (pardon the pun), it's not an opportunity for you to be offended, it's a meal, pure and simple. It's the best thing for the baby, and I've never seen anyone try and do it in any way other than as discreetly as possible.
Back on the main topic, - gosh, I don't know how I would have handled it - initially I'd have been so shocked I wouldn't have known what to say, but the thought of making it through the flight without several snifters (I'm not v keen on flying) doesn't bear thinking about... Can anyone think of a polite but assertive response?
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Personally I would have just continued drinking what I wanted and when I wanted but...
Maybe a quick visit to the galley and ask that when he wanted a drink it was prepared in the galley so the objector was unaware of what was in it. eg I ll have a tonic = please bring me a G & T discretely?
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Maybe a quick visit to the galley and ask that when he wanted a drink it was prepared in the galley so the objector was unaware of what was in it. eg I ll have a tonic = please bring me a G & T discretely?
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Cultural differences are just that: differences. A person who chooses not to drink because of their religion, well, I don't think anything should be imposed by religion on one self, but that's another story..., if they choose not to do it, good for them, I respect that, but when someone demands that no one does it, then itīs plain disrespectful and stupid. I would have told him that, as long as drinks are allowed and I am not forcing or tempting him to drink, I will carry on. If they were polite, I would have answered in the most polite way, and even try to find some common agreement (like trying to find a passenger to swap seats with). I they were rude, I would have told him that it was their problem. It's all a matter of attitude and respect. This story of the non-drinking passenger reminds me of the attitudes of my christian neighbours, so it's not only a "Middle East" stereotyping anecdote.
That said, as an atheist, my main problems with religious bad attitude do not come from my muslim friends, who donīt mind me having a beer in front of them, or even paying for one for me (sometimes with a "I wish I could" attitude), but with my christian acquaintances, who insist I should pray when someone dies and criticise me if I don't, that I should work for them on christmas (I prefer winterval ) or that I educate my kids in abstinence rather than in safely enjoying sex.
It's all a matter of it being a personal belief (which I respect) or trying to impose it on another passenger (which I won't tolerate).
That said, as an atheist, my main problems with religious bad attitude do not come from my muslim friends, who donīt mind me having a beer in front of them, or even paying for one for me (sometimes with a "I wish I could" attitude), but with my christian acquaintances, who insist I should pray when someone dies and criticise me if I don't, that I should work for them on christmas (I prefer winterval ) or that I educate my kids in abstinence rather than in safely enjoying sex.
It's all a matter of it being a personal belief (which I respect) or trying to impose it on another passenger (which I won't tolerate).
..........Maybe a quick visit to the galley and ask that when he wanted a drink it was prepared in the galley so the objector was unaware of what was in it. eg I ll have a tonic = please bring me a G & T discretely?
Why pander to the idiot ? Stick up for what you want. Stuff 'em.
When did appeasement ever win anything ? Ask Neville Chamberlain.
( yes, I am a Grumpy Old Man - took years of training )
ExSp33db1rd - I agree but there maybe reasons you don't want to make a fuss - crew/crew relative upgrade etc.
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If that airline provide alcohol - then it is their Custom ! Their problem.
Who am I to know what other quirks their Rulers might enforce on their subjects. ?
In my early airline days I might spend up to 5 days in India, and / or Pakistan and be forcibly obliged to observe 'meatless days' in the hotel dining rooms.
Once tried to stop an English butcher from serving meat to an Indian customer on one of those nominated days, didn't succeed of course.
Discrimination only works one way.
Hypocrisy Rules - O.K. ?
Who am I to know what other quirks their Rulers might enforce on their subjects. ?
In my early airline days I might spend up to 5 days in India, and / or Pakistan and be forcibly obliged to observe 'meatless days' in the hotel dining rooms.
Once tried to stop an English butcher from serving meat to an Indian customer on one of those nominated days, didn't succeed of course.
Discrimination only works one way.
Hypocrisy Rules - O.K. ?
Last edited by ExSp33db1rd; 17th Feb 2010 at 22:53.