BA 11 Month Contracts- Cabin Crew
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6chimes, it could happen easily. Mid-fleet were licensed on 757, 767 and 777. Not the 747 or any of the other aircraft used at the time! Perhaps it would be a mixture of crew being licensed on either Airbus or Boeing aircraft. Either A320/380 or B757/767/787. Or, a bit of both!
If they want to go ahead with it, they will. This is nothing but a formality for them! Can't see why it wouldn't be possible because most airlines do a mixture of short and long haul flights.
Virginia, leaving another airline?
If they want to go ahead with it, they will. This is nothing but a formality for them! Can't see why it wouldn't be possible because most airlines do a mixture of short and long haul flights.
Virginia, leaving another airline?
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I agree with Londonlads.
KLM have mixed flying despite have a wide number of fleet types. They have crew who are licensed 747, A330, 737.
If BA get rid of the 767 then it would be easy for the company to give Afleet an airbus with a change to the worldwide agreement. Likewise the vast majority of ww crew are actually only trained on two types, the 747 and 777. BA would love to get them on the Airbus too.
When the new fleet of 787's (which I believe will be the same rating as a 777 as the doors are identical) and the A380 arrive we could expect a very different crew setup to what we have.
Lets face it, having mixed flying is far more economical to BA then having a split crew base. The only reason there is a split crew base at LHR at present is a hark back to the pre BA days when BOAC (now ww) and BEA (now ef) were two separate companies.
KLM have mixed flying despite have a wide number of fleet types. They have crew who are licensed 747, A330, 737.
If BA get rid of the 767 then it would be easy for the company to give Afleet an airbus with a change to the worldwide agreement. Likewise the vast majority of ww crew are actually only trained on two types, the 747 and 777. BA would love to get them on the Airbus too.
When the new fleet of 787's (which I believe will be the same rating as a 777 as the doors are identical) and the A380 arrive we could expect a very different crew setup to what we have.
Lets face it, having mixed flying is far more economical to BA then having a split crew base. The only reason there is a split crew base at LHR at present is a hark back to the pre BA days when BOAC (now ww) and BEA (now ef) were two separate companies.
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Just finished my 11 Month cotract
Hi guys
Well ive just finished my 11 month contract with BA and ive had a great year and im sad to be going
does anyone have any news about the future for us...if any ?!
do you think they would invite us back ? or have to apply and start all over again.....some day ..lol..!
Cheers
Well ive just finished my 11 month contract with BA and ive had a great year and im sad to be going
does anyone have any news about the future for us...if any ?!
do you think they would invite us back ? or have to apply and start all over again.....some day ..lol..!
Cheers
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You signed an 11-month contract, it was honoured, you enjoyed your time, your cv is the better for it.
You will be better placed in the future to return to BA when the conditions are right - assuming you didn't blot your copybook while here.
I suspect, however, that the coming months, rather than see BA keen to rehire you, will see big reductions in numbers throughout the company as it goes into lockdown and survival mode for the next two years. The future really is that ominous, and you can bet your socks that if it is that grim at BA, it is worse at 95% of the competition - yes Virgin and Bmi included.
Watch this space, I foresee that by 10th November there will be a thread about how BA want to reduce numbers and terms and conditions.
Good luck to you and yours for the next couple of years !
You signed an 11-month contract, it was honoured, you enjoyed your time, your cv is the better for it.
You will be better placed in the future to return to BA when the conditions are right - assuming you didn't blot your copybook while here.
I suspect, however, that the coming months, rather than see BA keen to rehire you, will see big reductions in numbers throughout the company as it goes into lockdown and survival mode for the next two years. The future really is that ominous, and you can bet your socks that if it is that grim at BA, it is worse at 95% of the competition - yes Virgin and Bmi included.
Watch this space, I foresee that by 10th November there will be a thread about how BA want to reduce numbers and terms and conditions.
Good luck to you and yours for the next couple of years !
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Passenger numbers and data on forward bookings released on I think about the 6th or 7th of November. Expected to be very bad.
Expect the company to use this data to try to railroad some unpopular changes.
Expect the company to use this data to try to railroad some unpopular changes.
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Expect the company to use this data to try to railroad some unpopular changes.
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temp contracts
hey all... yes i just finished my 11 month contract... it was great had real fun... gutted wasnt offered anything... but thats it for me... and the rest of my course... any one i am sorry to say if you your contract is coming to an end... you will not be offered anything sorry guys... BA are even starting a new course on the 19th jan 2009 for ww temp course... its a shame they couldnt keep on those that wanted to stay and maybe offer another 11 months... but it seems its probably easier to recruit more temps than to offer anything to those that wanted to stay.. even another temp contract.. shame i would have stayed never mind... and yes before anyone replys to this message and says you know what a temp contract is... i do... nothing more nothing less.... just would have been nice to be kept on.... i had a ball though.... good luck to all those coming to an end... make the most of it....
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Rumour is that 787 will arrive at lgw first .
757's going to Openskies and 767 all going to WW lhr and then retired
Their is still a fleet replacement to be announced soon for the rest of the longhaul fleet !
757's going to Openskies and 767 all going to WW lhr and then retired
Their is still a fleet replacement to be announced soon for the rest of the longhaul fleet !
I for one will be sorry to see the temp contract people go...they have been like a breath of fresh air.
Good luck in your next jobs and hopefully, you will all bear us in mind when the upturn arrives in 2010?
Good luck in your next jobs and hopefully, you will all bear us in mind when the upturn arrives in 2010?
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787 is primary hardware and, with the delays, will be at lhr for 2012, not lgw. Thats the same 'rumour' that floated around about the A380 being mixed fleet out of lgw although the runway/taxiways can't take it. 
The cushy times of the cc at LHR are, without doubt, numbered. 6 CC on a 30 minute flight to MAN on a 319? How can any serious union defend that?
BASSA and BALPA have had their wings clipped by Willie and the change is now in the offing. It could get very messy and very painful.
Get used to it.
The cushy times of the cc at LHR are, without doubt, numbered. 6 CC on a 30 minute flight to MAN on a 319? How can any serious union defend that?
BASSA and BALPA have had their wings clipped by Willie and the change is now in the offing. It could get very messy and very painful.
Get used to it.
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You chose the wrong flight to highlight there. Whilst I agree that SOME bands are overcrewed at certain times of the day, have you tried to offer 132 hot panini with tea/coffee/juices and any other drinks on demand on a thirty minute flight?
The effective cabin service time on a MAN can be as low as 12 mins after take off and landing preps.
Its very easy to critisise from the other side of the flight deck door.
The effective cabin service time on a MAN can be as low as 12 mins after take off and landing preps.
Its very easy to critisise from the other side of the flight deck door.
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Really?
How come a 3 crew Gatwick crew manage with similar numbers on a 45 minute Glasgow/Gatwick flight then? Add on to that a full club load with a full aircraft to Marseille and the Purser managed the lot with a smile? A321 I can understand a 319? Not quite so much. Include the minimum of 6 we had on a 321 to Brussels the other day with 33 pax and you can see where I am coming from.
I don't wish to criticise I am just pointing out that it is in-efficient on a single aisle small aircraft to have all these crew rushing up and down the aisle on a Manchester. Most pax would be happy to have no service and a quicker flight on a 28-32 minute sector.
How come a 3 crew Gatwick crew manage with similar numbers on a 45 minute Glasgow/Gatwick flight then? Add on to that a full club load with a full aircraft to Marseille and the Purser managed the lot with a smile? A321 I can understand a 319? Not quite so much. Include the minimum of 6 we had on a 321 to Brussels the other day with 33 pax and you can see where I am coming from.
I don't wish to criticise I am just pointing out that it is in-efficient on a single aisle small aircraft to have all these crew rushing up and down the aisle on a Manchester. Most pax would be happy to have no service and a quicker flight on a 28-32 minute sector.
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Whilst I thing 6 is too many yes...we at LGW do NOT have 3 on a MAN/GLA etc...
The minimum is always 4 here and at certain times of the day 5 are required of the flights is busy.
The minimum is always 4 here and at certain times of the day 5 are required of the flights is busy.
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Roger makes a very worthy comment, which might make perfect sense. However, let me assure you that such logic is way out of BA's capabilities, such things as refs & CRC would all have to be taken out again.
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""Most pax would be happy to have no service and a quicker flight on a 28-32 minute sector.""
But until that day comes when there is no service on a MAN, 6 crew is just fine thanks
But until that day comes when there is no service on a MAN, 6 crew is just fine thanks
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Its been proven that the Gatwick model works ie: reduced crew compliments on all aircraft types, no CSD, 2days off after longhaul not 3, airport and home standby not QRS and mixed flying longhaul/shorhaul. Its only a matter if time before a similar operation is started at LHR, the agreements and working conditions at LHR are out dated and no longer cost effective.
Perhaps if the union had done a bit more to help Gatwick crew when single fleet started it would have made it more difficult for the company to put the changes through, however BASSA's is only interested in Heathrow.
Any future strike action in response to a change of conditions will not effect Gatwick as there is nothing left for the company to take away.
Perhaps if the union had done a bit more to help Gatwick crew when single fleet started it would have made it more difficult for the company to put the changes through, however BASSA's is only interested in Heathrow.
Any future strike action in response to a change of conditions will not effect Gatwick as there is nothing left for the company to take away.