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OMG this thread is soooo funny.
I watched the first episode and laughed my head off with my BA buddy.
hummm 1 sector to spain ( or wherever ) and they were exhausted!
I bet the real Monarch crew were not doing a 3hr day!
I do not do multi sector days, but that was taking the p**s
It is aload of old crap, but may watch it, just for the cheap laughs!
I feel sorry for the monarch crew, that are having to put up with it all and being connected to it!!!
A
I watched the first episode and laughed my head off with my BA buddy.
hummm 1 sector to spain ( or wherever ) and they were exhausted!
I bet the real Monarch crew were not doing a 3hr day!
I do not do multi sector days, but that was taking the p**s
It is aload of old crap, but may watch it, just for the cheap laughs!
I feel sorry for the monarch crew, that are having to put up with it all and being connected to it!!!
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I am monarch crew, Im off to larnaca soon for a nice 12 hour day on minimum crew, have 12 hours off and back in again for another flight, 11 hours off and another 14 hour day on min crew to canary islands followed by standby which will be called out on and then another flight.
How I would love to have an extra crew member on my flights so that we can use the washroom, have something to drink and to be able to eat.
Thats the real monarch and unfortunately, the programme does not show how hard cabin crew in general work these days, but, its a tv programme, so shouldn't expect any more.
Plus I love the whispy bits (hair)! We would get hung for having Whispy Bits!
Happy flying everyone!
How I would love to have an extra crew member on my flights so that we can use the washroom, have something to drink and to be able to eat.
Thats the real monarch and unfortunately, the programme does not show how hard cabin crew in general work these days, but, its a tv programme, so shouldn't expect any more.
Plus I love the whispy bits (hair)! We would get hung for having Whispy Bits!
Happy flying everyone!
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dazdaz, you missed out this bit of the directive:
topdog, you cannot do a 15 hour duty and only have 12 hours off. You must have a rest period that is at least as long as the preceeding duty -1 hour (in this case that would be 14 hours.) or 11 hours, whichever is the greater. In this case that would be 14 hours. In exceptional circumstances you could be asked ( and would have to agree) to take a reduction in rest, however this would only be to a maximum of 1 hour and even then to a minimum of 11 hours. For a 15 hour duty you couldn't reduce to 12 hours.
I think I know where you are coming from, in that the 15 hours isn't necessarily "duty" in the defined sense, but for rest calculation requirements it is only the "duty" bit that figures in the maths.
Scope: the Directive excluded workers in air, road and rail transport, fishing and activities at sea, and doctors in training.
I think I know where you are coming from, in that the 15 hours isn't necessarily "duty" in the defined sense, but for rest calculation requirements it is only the "duty" bit that figures in the maths.
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Virginia (nice user name
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I've not worked in the 'catering' sector. My only appreciation of the work hours/stresses of your employment is what I have comprehended while working as a senior producer for a forthcoming 'one off' on ITV2
Off the record, do you c/c think you work more hours/harder than an waitress in a hotel? Do you do breakfast, lunch and dinner over a twelve hour shift? I doubt it.
)I've not worked in the 'catering' sector. My only appreciation of the work hours/stresses of your employment is what I have comprehended while working as a senior producer for a forthcoming 'one off' on ITV2
Off the record, do you c/c think you work more hours/harder than an waitress in a hotel? Do you do breakfast, lunch and dinner over a twelve hour shift? I doubt it.
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Dazdaz, not that it happens often, but a waitress can call the fire brigade, police, ambulance, security when the sheet hits the fan. Cabin crew can't! Plus, they're working completely irregular shift patterns, often have multiple time zones disrupting their sleep patterns and work at a cabin altitude of 6-8000ft which is far more tiring than working at sea level. With long duty hours, plus sometimes positioning from/to their base airport on top. Yes I would say they do.
Ha Ha - so funny!
Yeah, working as Cabin Crew is tough but that's nothing compared to working for TGI Fridays on a 12 hour Saturday shift
(Please don't comment because I've done both and CC is certainly harder!)
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Yeah, working as Cabin Crew is tough but that's nothing compared to working for TGI Fridays on a 12 hour Saturday shift
(Please don't comment because I've done both and CC is certainly harder!)S88
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S88, I think you need to study some more m8, as you've just completely contradicted yourself. 
Service Swerver, your reply to dazspaz was much more to the point than mine, but no less accurate. I thought a 'SENIOR' TV producer (coffee boy) would have to be at least 4yrs old?
Service Swerver, your reply to dazspaz was much more to the point than mine, but no less accurate. I thought a 'SENIOR' TV producer (coffee boy) would have to be at least 4yrs old?
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I've worked as a waitress/chamber maid/general dogsbody in a large hotel and as cc and I can categorically state that cc is harder.
I've done the crippling 12 hour hotel breakfast lunch and dinner shifts day after painful day but at the end of it I had my own bed to go back to, my circadian rythums were in sync, the oxygen levels were plentiful, I hadn't picked up some rare and exotic disease from a nightstop in Accra, Al Kaida hadn't make me a tip top target, there were no alert calls at 3am to get me seriously considering the manner of my own death, when a guest shouted at me I could run away or if that guest decided to keel over after mixing their prescription meds with litres of Heineken I could call the paramedics, I didn't have to stay up for 36-40 hours on a regular basis, I didn't have to regularly work 14-17 hour days as hotels don't tend to get delayed diverted or fog-bound.
Simply put catering is a walk in the proverbial park compared to what flying can turn up.
I've done the crippling 12 hour hotel breakfast lunch and dinner shifts day after painful day but at the end of it I had my own bed to go back to, my circadian rythums were in sync, the oxygen levels were plentiful, I hadn't picked up some rare and exotic disease from a nightstop in Accra, Al Kaida hadn't make me a tip top target, there were no alert calls at 3am to get me seriously considering the manner of my own death, when a guest shouted at me I could run away or if that guest decided to keel over after mixing their prescription meds with litres of Heineken I could call the paramedics, I didn't have to stay up for 36-40 hours on a regular basis, I didn't have to regularly work 14-17 hour days as hotels don't tend to get delayed diverted or fog-bound.
Simply put catering is a walk in the proverbial park compared to what flying can turn up.
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Bunkrest/Et al pro with her thoughts.........
So why do you do the job? Don't tell me it's for the travel opportunities (see foreign lands) nor salary. Surely it can't be because you really get job satisfaction assisting drunken chavs, I think not.
It's the kudos of your work that attracts and impress young ladies. Is it really better than working as waitress in a hotel, from posts it seems not. It's your choice.
So why do you do the job? Don't tell me it's for the travel opportunities (see foreign lands) nor salary. Surely it can't be because you really get job satisfaction assisting drunken chavs, I think not.
It's the kudos of your work that attracts and impress young ladies. Is it really better than working as waitress in a hotel, from posts it seems not. It's your choice.
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Whiskey Zulu...
"dazspaz" Thank you, I trust this might be a spelling mistake? Having said that, was it you (same user name) who applied (e-mail) for the new series? 'I want to be topless c/c'? The photos look great.
"dazspaz" Thank you, I trust this might be a spelling mistake? Having said that, was it you (same user name) who applied (e-mail) for the new series? 'I want to be topless c/c'? The photos look great.
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oh dear oh dear!
I did actually choose to become cabin crew for the travel opportunities. I've been very lucky and have spent a pretty resonable amount of time in most capital cities... seen the Doges Palace in Venice, taken a helicopter flight over the statue of Christ in Rio, climbed some Inca temples in Mexico and been lucky enough to visit some of the most jaw dropping art galleries, museums and temple complexes on the planet...Anne Frank's house Amsterdam, the MOMA and Frick in New York, The Capitoline in Rome, the Battle Box and Changai museums in Singapore...True its not like the 3 week stopovers that marked the 60's and 70's but I make the most of it.
No I don't do it for the drunken chavs down in row 335Z I do it for the ocassional A list or head of state in 1K or for the charming plastic surgeon in club who tells me how he's gong out to Africa to work for medecins sans frontieres.
As for the money I'm lucky - with the company I work for its more than ok - certainly better than office admin or even retail management (I worked as a recruitment consultant in another lifetime so I know my onions when it comes to wages ) the hotels are first class and the terms and conditions reasonable.
Is it really better than being a waitress? I would never put my job above others nor would I say that I am better than another. I was just commenting that the work is more emotionally and physically demanding than that of a waitress. Judging someone merely by the job they do is a huge mistake. Flying teaches you that.
I did actually choose to become cabin crew for the travel opportunities. I've been very lucky and have spent a pretty resonable amount of time in most capital cities... seen the Doges Palace in Venice, taken a helicopter flight over the statue of Christ in Rio, climbed some Inca temples in Mexico and been lucky enough to visit some of the most jaw dropping art galleries, museums and temple complexes on the planet...Anne Frank's house Amsterdam, the MOMA and Frick in New York, The Capitoline in Rome, the Battle Box and Changai museums in Singapore...True its not like the 3 week stopovers that marked the 60's and 70's but I make the most of it.
No I don't do it for the drunken chavs down in row 335Z I do it for the ocassional A list or head of state in 1K or for the charming plastic surgeon in club who tells me how he's gong out to Africa to work for medecins sans frontieres.
As for the money I'm lucky - with the company I work for its more than ok - certainly better than office admin or even retail management (I worked as a recruitment consultant in another lifetime so I know my onions when it comes to wages ) the hotels are first class and the terms and conditions reasonable.
Is it really better than being a waitress? I would never put my job above others nor would I say that I am better than another. I was just commenting that the work is more emotionally and physically demanding than that of a waitress. Judging someone merely by the job they do is a huge mistake. Flying teaches you that.
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Agreed, I always make the most of the travel!
IMHO it's one of the best jobs in the world. It's not for everyone but I consider myself well paid, it's fun, I get plenty of time off to have a life, I get to 'bid' for trips and when I would like time off. I only have to buy tights for work rather than a whole wardrobe of clothes. You can't take work home with you!
Our job is SO much more than being a waitress. As we all know we are there for safety. Various idiots can think what they want but they are not lucky enough to do our job!
On a recent trip this thought poppped into my head..."make the most of this." I think that's what we should all do in these uncertain times...
Agreed, I always make the most of the travel!
IMHO it's one of the best jobs in the world. It's not for everyone but I consider myself well paid, it's fun, I get plenty of time off to have a life, I get to 'bid' for trips and when I would like time off. I only have to buy tights for work rather than a whole wardrobe of clothes. You can't take work home with you!
Our job is SO much more than being a waitress. As we all know we are there for safety. Various idiots can think what they want but they are not lucky enough to do our job!
On a recent trip this thought poppped into my head..."make the most of this." I think that's what we should all do in these uncertain times...