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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:13
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According to a friend who is senior cabin crew management at BA Gatwick there are major changes on the cards at both LGW & LHR. Aircraft groundings & lay offs. Virgin have gone through a fair bit of expansion in the last few years adding more routes & increasing frequencies so probably some major reshuffling due there too.
In answer to a response much earlier on 'Monarch Airlines' appears to be the only surviving UK airline to have stayed in its original form through thick & thin. They really are a truely remarkable company & they never cease to amaze me.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the following disappear from our skies:

Astraeus
XL.com
Palmair European
European Air Charter
Air Southwest (possibly merger with Flybe?)
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Old 15th Jun 2008, 19:28
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The answer to this question is no one knows! There are so many variables, and it's so competative that cards are played very close to one's chest. There are bound to be changes, but ask 100 people, and you will get 100 answers. It's a time of uncertaintity and thats all that can be said.
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Old 16th Jun 2008, 16:52
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Cranebank is neutral however the buildings cost a lot to maintain and are past economic refurbishment. Additionally they pose a problem in risk management by placing the FC, CC and a large proportion of staff training at one location. It is the last chunk of real estate that BA own and will be vacated within 5 years and sold.
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It is the last chunk of real estate that BA own and will be vacated within 5 years and sold.
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 00:22
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"HZ123: United are to lay up to 130 old aircraft and scrap a large number of routes."

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130?? Where did you get this figure from?
Official info from United is: 96 B737 + 6 B747 = 100 aircraft
What do you know that we donīt know? Is that 30 Airbus or 30 Boeing Aircraft?

What large number of routes is United scrapping?? Can you be more specific please?
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 00:43
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Why hark on about Monarch remaining unchanged since being foundered? They have gone through a transition from mainly charter to dabbling in Scheduled to becoming mainly scheduled low cost carrier. I would hardly say they have remained unchanged.
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 13:53
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Going to be the 'Hardest' Winter all round I think.

This winter will be a 'Big' wake up call for alot of people, The kind of people who live their life's at a mere 50mph.

Those who drive everywhere, And have a car each & a 4x4 on their driveway.

Those who buy sandwiches at M&S at 3.99 a time., And pay for everything on a 'plastic' card.

You know the kind of people I mean I could go on.....

All these luxuries will dissapear.
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Old 5th Jul 2008, 22:12
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[quote=flyingazorian;4197306]"HZ123: United are to lay up to 130 old aircraft and scrap a large number of routes."

hi

130?? Where did you get this figure from?
Official info from United is: 96 B737 + 6 B747 = 100 aircraft

When I was at school 96+6=102
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Old 6th Jul 2008, 00:04
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It is not in anybody's interest for lots of airlines to go under
Don't be fooled, Michael O'leary will be out with the daggers, Ryanair are cash rich and will survive this no prob. When they come out the other side many airlines and routes will have hit the wall and MOL will be there to sweep up. Ryanair will show reduced profits the next few years but will emerge bigger, fitter and stronger when the upturn starts.
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Old 6th Jul 2008, 00:36
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I think most of them will survive... It's not as if this has just sprung upon them, they have known for a long time giving them enough time to plan/develop their new business plan.

The ones affected the most will be the Air Southwest, EasternAirways etc
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Old 6th Jul 2008, 16:35
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not forgettig another charter airline i.e Thomson, altho merging with FCA the company has been around for many years and the core of its flights are for its holidays it sells so unless people stop going on their holidays with thomson or first choice then i would say their will always be thomson airways
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Old 6th Jul 2008, 22:50
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When I was at school 96+6=102

and still is...i meant to type 94+6=100...

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