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If the job is making you ill - why stay !
No job is worth making yoiur self ill for and all your doing is causing roster disruption for your fellow crew. and an AMP interview for yourself.
Your health is more important than any job.
And you find being crew for bmi stressful???? You really are not in the right job/company.
No job is worth making yoiur self ill for and all your doing is causing roster disruption for your fellow crew. and an AMP interview for yourself.
Your health is more important than any job.
And you find being crew for bmi stressful???? You really are not in the right job/company.
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Yeah I agree that the uniform standards are "Strict" but follow em and no 1 will shout at you, And I dont condone ANYONE shouting at crew in public !.
Yeah I agree that you should have had a cspm but there is a duty csom in the QB for 16 hours a day who is always available .
As for time off for your friend who was/is injured (and i wish her a speedy recovery) not being able to get time off at short notice is fairly common for crew at many airlines for non relatives - Yes I know it was different at BMed but things have changed.
Im not saying bmi is perfect - but things have changed and thats a fact.
Yeah I agree that you should have had a cspm but there is a duty csom in the QB for 16 hours a day who is always available .
As for time off for your friend who was/is injured (and i wish her a speedy recovery) not being able to get time off at short notice is fairly common for crew at many airlines for non relatives - Yes I know it was different at BMed but things have changed.
Im not saying bmi is perfect - but things have changed and thats a fact.
nothing changes at BMA
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that made me laugh about not wearing yer hat going to the loo...
but
well when i worked for BMA in the late 70's-80's i was duty traffic officer and my office was under the jetty at alpha 9 at T1 at LHR
if i went to the loo under the pier as it was then (out of public sight) with no hat i was disciplined and the wally of a stn mngr then (who was eventually put inside for petty cash fraud lol) used to stand on the top of the pier waiting for us to come out of the ramp office with no hats to take a pee.
tosser!
so no changes then after 25 years, seems not...
sorry to hear you boys and girls at BMI are going thru some friction
it was all fun once
that made me laugh about not wearing yer hat going to the loo...
but
well when i worked for BMA in the late 70's-80's i was duty traffic officer and my office was under the jetty at alpha 9 at T1 at LHR
if i went to the loo under the pier as it was then (out of public sight) with no hat i was disciplined and the wally of a stn mngr then (who was eventually put inside for petty cash fraud lol) used to stand on the top of the pier waiting for us to come out of the ramp office with no hats to take a pee.
tosser!
so no changes then after 25 years, seems not...
sorry to hear you boys and girls at BMI are going thru some friction
it was all fun once
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Starting training very soon and I'm soo excited..... NOT!
Not because of bmi or bmi crew BUT because of certain ex B|MED crew! So many of you keep hearing what you want to hear! Listen to Airbus215 as he says the most important point... no one is holding you at gun point to stay at bmi! Please feel free to leave! As one of them, I can say openly that enough ex flyers from other airlines are applying to bmi at present and couldnt care less weather you were B|MED or not!
And no matter what you say for a whole crew to label you a B|MED Bitch... then you need to be shocked and change YOUR attitude!
Not because of bmi or bmi crew BUT because of certain ex B|MED crew! So many of you keep hearing what you want to hear! Listen to Airbus215 as he says the most important point... no one is holding you at gun point to stay at bmi! Please feel free to leave! As one of them, I can say openly that enough ex flyers from other airlines are applying to bmi at present and couldnt care less weather you were B|MED or not!
And no matter what you say for a whole crew to label you a B|MED Bitch... then you need to be shocked and change YOUR attitude!
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The fact that 300 B med crew have left one can only come to one conclusion about the cabin crew management,They have failed.
To everyone here who goes along the line ,if you dont like it then leave i think most of the Ex B Med crew are mature enough to realise this for 75% have consequently left.
When BMI is purchased then all of the BMI crew will learn very quickly it is an incredibly stressful time and not everything will be to your liking.So all you 330 crews could well find yourselves on permanant shorthaul out of LHR,or maybe have to come back full time,Then we will find out who the real moaners are!!
To everyone here who goes along the line ,if you dont like it then leave i think most of the Ex B Med crew are mature enough to realise this for 75% have consequently left.
When BMI is purchased then all of the BMI crew will learn very quickly it is an incredibly stressful time and not everything will be to your liking.So all you 330 crews could well find yourselves on permanant shorthaul out of LHR,or maybe have to come back full time,Then we will find out who the real moaners are!!
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B|MED crew leaving...
I don't see B|MED crew leaving a bad reflextion on bmi! B|MED did nothing but trips and had an easy life! (Don't jump down my neck, Ive done low cost and charter before.. you had it easy)
The point is... if the B|MED crew didn't fancy the bmi culture then fair play to them for leaving!!.... Its just the ones that have stayed and continue to moan that get everyones backs up!!!!!!!!!!!
BA have been recruiting WW, I think B|MED crew would enjoy working there and can finally call them selves real BA crew!
Sorry but from someone joining bmi the name B|MED is very very
The point is... if the B|MED crew didn't fancy the bmi culture then fair play to them for leaving!!
.... Its just the ones that have stayed and continue to moan that get everyones backs up!!!!!!!!!!! BA have been recruiting WW, I think B|MED crew would enjoy working there and can finally call them selves real BA crew!
Sorry but from someone joining bmi the name B|MED is very very
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A few ways.... being crew before that work longer sectors than B|MED did! Knowing many bmi crew!! Knowing a few B|MED crew also!
At the end of the day if people feel the need to come on here in between flights to run bmi into the ground then you obviously need to leave!! Its not YOUR airline like B|MED was, so don't expect to go to bmi and change it to how you had it at B|MED... this also refers to comments made on Cabincrew.com to which certain people have been pulled aside at bmi by management that read this posts!
BIGGEST POINT!!!............ PAX and New crew this year do NOT need to hear ex B|MED crew bitching about bmi!!!!!!!
At the end of the day if people feel the need to come on here in between flights to run bmi into the ground then you obviously need to leave!! Its not YOUR airline like B|MED was, so don't expect to go to bmi and change it to how you had it at B|MED... this also refers to comments made on Cabincrew.com to which certain people have been pulled aside at bmi by management that read this posts!
BIGGEST POINT!!!............ PAX and New crew this year do NOT need to hear ex B|MED crew bitching about bmi!!!!!!!
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Please remember that everyone is an individual and not all are moaning.A lot of B Med are genuinely moving on and have accepted that they are now working for someone else.if anybody complains you always have the option of switching off.Its really easy.just put your hands in your ears and go La La La la la la la la la la
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Cheers King surf... in all the time I have been flying I have never been told I would need to cover my ears and go "LA LA LA LA"... sooo can't wait to meet some of these B|MED crew... (i'm talking about the bitches) just so I can go "LA LA LA LA LA" 
Then again I don't want to be punched in the crew room
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Then again I don't want to be punched in the crew room
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I have had flights where I have been either completely ignored or vilified by the majority bmi crew. Very welcoming. And the attitude from management is 'if you don't like it, here's the door'.
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Sadly for those that are from B|MED and very nice people your once coworkers have wrecked it for you by being such arses on flights!
I know people from my course already and most say just to ignore the ex B|MED crew if they have attitude! So its the new crew coming online too that will also see ex B|MED crew in the same way.......
like I say its sad for the nice ones that your once friends are wrecking it for you!!
I think a few B|MED crew felt very safe and thought they would walk into bmi like they were something special (based on post on here and cc.com) well a few of these bad attitude crew only started flying last summer and I know myself and other ex flyers on my course really couldnt care less that someone did 4 months with B|MED!
Im not going to harp on about what I did at my previous airline!!!!
I know people from my course already and most say just to ignore the ex B|MED crew if they have attitude! So its the new crew coming online too that will also see ex B|MED crew in the same way.......
like I say its sad for the nice ones that your once friends are wrecking it for you!!
I think a few B|MED crew felt very safe and thought they would walk into bmi like they were something special (based on post on here and cc.com) well a few of these bad attitude crew only started flying last summer and I know myself and other ex flyers on my course really couldnt care less that someone did 4 months with B|MED!
Im not going to harp on about what I did at my previous airline!!!!
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Just to put things into perspective here folks.
I'm ex-BMed flight deck and have had the pleasure of flying with both BMed and BMI cabin crews. The two airlines really are like chalk and cheese. Sure the aircraft are the same and the main bases are LHR but there really is where the story ends.
Everyone of us joins a company for our own reasons. At some point in your careers there is a great chance that a your company will take over/be taken over by another company or cease trading. Even if none of the above occurs it is extremely likely that the airline will change it's direction or it's business model. Such is the nature of the industry that it is inevitable.
What is or isn't so apparent is how this will affect our INDIVIDUAL lives. What to one person will be their worst nightmare come true will to another be the direction that they've been hoping forever that the company would follow. Just like physics 'for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction'.
In the case of BMed / BMI crews I have flown with a diverse range of people. I have to say (as I've heard it myself first hand) that BMed crews have been told many untruths regarding the merger with BMI. These inaccuracies have nearly always come direct from managers (Pilot Manager and Cabin Crew Managers) and I hasten to add both BMed and BMI managers. I have to say that most of the time I think they are told in good faith but as is often the case, the plan is dynamically changing and the staff are not kept informed of this and continuing to believe the information which was correct at the time.
However, I honestly believe there was also a fair amount of intentional misinformation Had this been know to BMed crews earlier, then I am almost certain that the exodus that is being witnessed at this time would have occurred under BMed 6 months earlier. As the two companies were operating under different AOC's it is apparant that BMI would not have been able to fill the crew positions quickly enough and BMI would have ended up paying for aircraft to sit on the ground empty at LHR, with no crews to operate them.
This may well be part of the reason for the discontent of BMed crews at BMI. Being told that BMed crews would continue to operate the old BMed routes for the first 6 months after the merger is the carrott that was dangled and attracted so many to stay on and see what colour the grass was really was over at BMI. There are plenty of others reasons as well for this upset including the way some junior managers make it a point of talking down to crews. There is no need for this, especially as often the staff that they are speaking to are older, wiser and more knowledgeable than the managers themselves. We are not children and should not be spoken to as such. This harsh draconian attitude further fuels the malaise and is a text book example of how a manager should not act.
Let's not forget though, as is so often the case in this industry, that often managers are promoted into these positions based solely on being in the right place at the right time. People management skills, often appear to be overlooked when it comes to resumes. I strongly believe that a manager that hasn't already studied management styles and techniques should be sent on a brief course, in order to equip them with the necessary skills for dealing with the work force efficiently and effectively.
It is clear therefore, that some BMed crews will have a valid chip on their shoulders. What isn't correct is for them to show this off for everyone to see. This also applies to BMI crews and any other airline employee.
'A330Ryan', I suggest you take note, for someone just entering into the Company, I would implore you not to judge people by their covers. You are merely perpetuating and exacerbating the problem. Treat everyone with the same courtesy and respect. Form your own opinions but do not be swayed into taking sides, for there is no sides. Without knowing the full individuals story, it is impossible to appreciate their position. If this is interfering with their service then bring it discretely to their attention and failing that have a quite word the SCA or their manager but ultimately try and be sympathetic. Many BMI and ex-BMed crews are passionate about their jobs and careers, some people adjust differently to their environment. Saying that someone with 30 years+ of flying experience should leave just because they live >2 hours away frankly smacks of immaturity. These people have lives, families and mortgages. They can't simply up sticks and move to 30 mins from LHR. Your not considering the fact that they may not be able to afford to, partners may have their own ties and children need to be taken out of schools. So I urge you not to be hasty with your opinions for someone still on probation. Get to know the crews and make your own opinions.
Returning back to the thread, I could go on but the bottom line is that BMI and BMed staff and managers need to embrace one anothers ideas and concepts. Lets learn from one another rather than cast suggestions aside point blank. BMed was no angel, it evolved through many previous faults and failures. Why therefore dismiss these suggestions completely out of hand, without sitting down and actually rationalising the pro's and con's of the point.
Ultimately, we all want to see the company succeed, it's our livelihoods at the end of the day but both managers and staff need to respect one another and their views; in order to make the future more professional, comfortable and as I'm sure BMI want more profitable.
I'm ex-BMed flight deck and have had the pleasure of flying with both BMed and BMI cabin crews. The two airlines really are like chalk and cheese. Sure the aircraft are the same and the main bases are LHR but there really is where the story ends.
Everyone of us joins a company for our own reasons. At some point in your careers there is a great chance that a your company will take over/be taken over by another company or cease trading. Even if none of the above occurs it is extremely likely that the airline will change it's direction or it's business model. Such is the nature of the industry that it is inevitable.
What is or isn't so apparent is how this will affect our INDIVIDUAL lives. What to one person will be their worst nightmare come true will to another be the direction that they've been hoping forever that the company would follow. Just like physics 'for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction'.
In the case of BMed / BMI crews I have flown with a diverse range of people. I have to say (as I've heard it myself first hand) that BMed crews have been told many untruths regarding the merger with BMI. These inaccuracies have nearly always come direct from managers (Pilot Manager and Cabin Crew Managers) and I hasten to add both BMed and BMI managers. I have to say that most of the time I think they are told in good faith but as is often the case, the plan is dynamically changing and the staff are not kept informed of this and continuing to believe the information which was correct at the time.
However, I honestly believe there was also a fair amount of intentional misinformation
Had this been know to BMed crews earlier, then I am almost certain that the exodus that is being witnessed at this time would have occurred under BMed 6 months earlier. As the two companies were operating under different AOC's it is apparant that BMI would not have been able to fill the crew positions quickly enough and BMI would have ended up paying for aircraft to sit on the ground empty at LHR, with no crews to operate them.This may well be part of the reason for the discontent of BMed crews at BMI. Being told that BMed crews would continue to operate the old BMed routes for the first 6 months after the merger is the carrott that was dangled and attracted so many to stay on and see what colour the grass was really was over at BMI. There are plenty of others reasons as well for this upset including the way some junior managers make it a point of talking down to crews. There is no need for this, especially as often the staff that they are speaking to are older, wiser and more knowledgeable than the managers themselves. We are not children and should not be spoken to as such. This harsh draconian attitude further fuels the malaise and is a text book example of how a manager should not act.
Let's not forget though, as is so often the case in this industry, that often managers are promoted into these positions based solely on being in the right place at the right time. People management skills, often appear to be overlooked when it comes to resumes. I strongly believe that a manager that hasn't already studied management styles and techniques should be sent on a brief course, in order to equip them with the necessary skills for dealing with the work force efficiently and effectively.
It is clear therefore, that some BMed crews will have a valid chip on their shoulders. What isn't correct is for them to show this off for everyone to see. This also applies to BMI crews and any other airline employee.
'A330Ryan', I suggest you take note, for someone just entering into the Company, I would implore you not to judge people by their covers. You are merely perpetuating and exacerbating the problem. Treat everyone with the same courtesy and respect. Form your own opinions but do not be swayed into taking sides, for there is no sides. Without knowing the full individuals story, it is impossible to appreciate their position. If this is interfering with their service then bring it discretely to their attention and failing that have a quite word the SCA or their manager but ultimately try and be sympathetic. Many BMI and ex-BMed crews are passionate about their jobs and careers, some people adjust differently to their environment. Saying that someone with 30 years+ of flying experience should leave just because they live >2 hours away frankly smacks of immaturity. These people have lives, families and mortgages. They can't simply up sticks and move to 30 mins from LHR. Your not considering the fact that they may not be able to afford to, partners may have their own ties and children need to be taken out of schools. So I urge you not to be hasty with your opinions for someone still on probation. Get to know the crews and make your own opinions.
Returning back to the thread, I could go on but the bottom line is that BMI and BMed staff and managers need to embrace one anothers ideas and concepts. Lets learn from one another rather than cast suggestions aside point blank. BMed was no angel, it evolved through many previous faults and failures. Why therefore dismiss these suggestions completely out of hand, without sitting down and actually rationalising the pro's and con's of the point.
Ultimately, we all want to see the company succeed, it's our livelihoods at the end of the day but both managers and staff need to respect one another and their views; in order to make the future more professional, comfortable and as I'm sure BMI want more profitable.
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Truth, lies and ex bmed crew
Airbus 215,
Your obvious loyalty to your current employer is to be applauded. Your obvious irritation with the ex BMED crews is understandable. However, a little understanding should, perhaps, be shown by someone who appears to have been in the job with bmi for some time.
Your comments that,
"Many seem to have forgotten just how close to ceasing operations bmed (sic) were and with it would have come the resulting loss of jobs etc,"
and,
"Yes things have changed but had they not have changed BMed (sic) would not be here today anyway,"
are hardly designed to make these crews feel welcome. They are also a little inaccurate.
Whatever you think, their experience of the drawn-out merger cannot have been stress-free or happy. It's natural they bemoan the loss of the 'old days' even if it becomes a bit boring. Agreed, as a bmi crew member, you can't be blamed for being a bit fed-up with the moans.
The title of your post included the words 'truth' and 'lies'. Perhaps your perception of the merger and the resultant job-losses needs a little clarification. bmi approached BA in December 2006 and made an offer for BMED. This was rejected by BA in favour of a possible sale to the Mikati group which, subsequently, fell through. In Jan/Feb 2006 bmi again approached BA and this time a deal was struck. Essentially, bmi got the route licences/airframes etc. In exchange, BA got the BMED slots. In fact, bmi bought itself some time to develop new routes and break out of its loss-making, essentially short-haul network.
There was, however, no question of redundancy for flight deck and cabin crews. Had the bmi deal fallen through, the backstop was always BA. The crews would have continued to operate until 2009 when the slots would have reverted to BA and BMED would have had to leave LHR and fend for itself. In effect, BMED would have time to develop a new strategy/investors etc - if such a thing were possible.
Facts are facts and it was, indeed, bmi who took-over BMED. That doesn't mean that bmi was necessarily the better airline, although that is the perception that bmi personnel/management seem to have. The very fact that bmi coveted the BMED routes and were prepared to go to great lengths to acquire them is, in itself, acknowledgement that bmi was not doing very well and needed to change tack. If BMED were that bad, why did bmi want it so badly? Without the acquisition of BMED, might there have been grounds for redundancies in bmi?
Your defence of bmi is admirable when you say,
"It's not a perfect company but it is one that has endured the roller coaster ride of aviation over the last 60 odd years and seen many of its competitors leave the industry."
That could also describe TWA/Pan Am/Swissair etc.
Could it be that bmi has survived through a series of happy coincidences and right-place-right-time? Its position at LHR as the holder of 11% of slots and a canny deal with Lufthansa? Open Skies has now made bmi's slots the subject of careful scrutiny by other large carriers.
Another poster has hinted at what might come:
"they (bmi) will have to downsize the LHR operation when BA gets the old BMED slots later this year and next year."
Also,
"bmi is not an airline, just a collection of slots waiting to be bought."
This may be fanciful but there just might be a grain of truth in it. And then you could find yourself in the same, unhappy position as ex-BMED crews where you didn't ask to come here........
A little understanding is what's called for. Forget the "WE bought you so you must have been bad,". Likewise some of the ex-BMED crews could be a little more discreet. In fairness, the 'merger' is only in its 4th month and these moans are to be expected. However, large numbers of ex-BMED cabin crew have already left and, if this continues, there won't be any left to moan about in another 3 months.
The truth is, as you've already pointed out, change has happened. And more is likely to happen. Let's hope you're prepared for it.
Your obvious loyalty to your current employer is to be applauded. Your obvious irritation with the ex BMED crews is understandable. However, a little understanding should, perhaps, be shown by someone who appears to have been in the job with bmi for some time.
Your comments that,
"Many seem to have forgotten just how close to ceasing operations bmed (sic) were and with it would have come the resulting loss of jobs etc,"
and,
"Yes things have changed but had they not have changed BMed (sic) would not be here today anyway,"
are hardly designed to make these crews feel welcome. They are also a little inaccurate.
Whatever you think, their experience of the drawn-out merger cannot have been stress-free or happy. It's natural they bemoan the loss of the 'old days' even if it becomes a bit boring. Agreed, as a bmi crew member, you can't be blamed for being a bit fed-up with the moans.
The title of your post included the words 'truth' and 'lies'. Perhaps your perception of the merger and the resultant job-losses needs a little clarification. bmi approached BA in December 2006 and made an offer for BMED. This was rejected by BA in favour of a possible sale to the Mikati group which, subsequently, fell through. In Jan/Feb 2006 bmi again approached BA and this time a deal was struck. Essentially, bmi got the route licences/airframes etc. In exchange, BA got the BMED slots. In fact, bmi bought itself some time to develop new routes and break out of its loss-making, essentially short-haul network.
There was, however, no question of redundancy for flight deck and cabin crews. Had the bmi deal fallen through, the backstop was always BA. The crews would have continued to operate until 2009 when the slots would have reverted to BA and BMED would have had to leave LHR and fend for itself. In effect, BMED would have time to develop a new strategy/investors etc - if such a thing were possible.
Facts are facts and it was, indeed, bmi who took-over BMED. That doesn't mean that bmi was necessarily the better airline, although that is the perception that bmi personnel/management seem to have. The very fact that bmi coveted the BMED routes and were prepared to go to great lengths to acquire them is, in itself, acknowledgement that bmi was not doing very well and needed to change tack. If BMED were that bad, why did bmi want it so badly? Without the acquisition of BMED, might there have been grounds for redundancies in bmi?
Your defence of bmi is admirable when you say,
"It's not a perfect company but it is one that has endured the roller coaster ride of aviation over the last 60 odd years and seen many of its competitors leave the industry."
That could also describe TWA/Pan Am/Swissair etc.
Could it be that bmi has survived through a series of happy coincidences and right-place-right-time? Its position at LHR as the holder of 11% of slots and a canny deal with Lufthansa? Open Skies has now made bmi's slots the subject of careful scrutiny by other large carriers.
Another poster has hinted at what might come:
"they (bmi) will have to downsize the LHR operation when BA gets the old BMED slots later this year and next year."
Also,
"bmi is not an airline, just a collection of slots waiting to be bought."
This may be fanciful but there just might be a grain of truth in it. And then you could find yourself in the same, unhappy position as ex-BMED crews where you didn't ask to come here........
A little understanding is what's called for. Forget the "WE bought you so you must have been bad,". Likewise some of the ex-BMED crews could be a little more discreet. In fairness, the 'merger' is only in its 4th month and these moans are to be expected. However, large numbers of ex-BMED cabin crew have already left and, if this continues, there won't be any left to moan about in another 3 months.
The truth is, as you've already pointed out, change has happened. And more is likely to happen. Let's hope you're prepared for it.
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A very accurate post 1033.I hope this stops the very unpleasant phrases that are being used against B Med Cabin crew on this forum and whilst at work.How about a truce and just let people get on with their work.As I posted before if someone moans about something just ignore it ,rise above it.Calling them the B med bitches is bullying and should not be tollerated under any circumstances.Dont forget the walls have ears!!
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1033 - well said!
The common point within everyones posts are this: bmi cabin crew management.
They are very poor, always have been! I have been treated like a child on more occasions and for ridiculously small matters than it would warrant to write here.
What I can say is this, remember the very nature of our jobs, how long do you actually spend in their company? Am I not right in saying that the vast majority of your time at bmi is spent in a metal tube miles away from any managers with your good colleagues?
I learned many years ago that the job is what you make it. If you want to take your problems, criticisms, negative attitude etc. out on line then it is only your life that will be miserable and those listening to it hour after hour.
Yes bmi is way down the list of nice airlines to work for when it comes to being man managed. BUT, you make your own experiences at your place of work. If you have the maturity to 'let it go' when you step on the a/c you may be very surprised at how your life is so much nicer. It is only when you are ready to see the great crew you work with and you have the attitude to join in and make a positive contribution to their day/trip, will your lives get any better. And that goes for bmi crew to.
We all know airlines are the best breeding ground for rumours and gossip. How many actual bad experiences or the stories of them do you really know are true. Could some not be just embellishments of the truth and slightly exaggerated? When you dig a little more you generally find that the crew member 'assisted' his or her own problems and didn't like being pulled up for it.
To sum up: If you have a negative attitude, clear off and get a job somewhere else because I don't want to work with you as you make my life worse than what it needs to be. If you have a positive outlook, great I look forward to working with you and can't wait to come to work and fly with you I am sure our day/trip will make me enjoy my job a little more.
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They are very poor, always have been! I have been treated like a child on more occasions and for ridiculously small matters than it would warrant to write here.
What I can say is this, remember the very nature of our jobs, how long do you actually spend in their company? Am I not right in saying that the vast majority of your time at bmi is spent in a metal tube miles away from any managers with your good colleagues?
I learned many years ago that the job is what you make it. If you want to take your problems, criticisms, negative attitude etc. out on line then it is only your life that will be miserable and those listening to it hour after hour.
Yes bmi is way down the list of nice airlines to work for when it comes to being man managed. BUT, you make your own experiences at your place of work. If you have the maturity to 'let it go' when you step on the a/c you may be very surprised at how your life is so much nicer. It is only when you are ready to see the great crew you work with and you have the attitude to join in and make a positive contribution to their day/trip, will your lives get any better. And that goes for bmi crew to.
We all know airlines are the best breeding ground for rumours and gossip. How many actual bad experiences or the stories of them do you really know are true. Could some not be just embellishments of the truth and slightly exaggerated? When you dig a little more you generally find that the crew member 'assisted' his or her own problems and didn't like being pulled up for it.
To sum up: If you have a negative attitude, clear off and get a job somewhere else because I don't want to work with you as you make my life worse than what it needs to be. If you have a positive outlook, great I look forward to working with you and can't wait to come to work and fly with you I am sure our day/trip will make me enjoy my job a little more.
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It will all settle down soon... the people that are un happy, can't relocate etc etc will move on there will always be that one person that stays and complains for their whole career... I worked with a lady from Orion that still complained!!!!!
But with us new lot about to start.... heres to the future!
But with us new lot about to start.... heres to the future!
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well said 6 chimes having worked for British midland sorry bmi back in the nineties this company has always had bad managment. and the job was definitely what you made of it . come into the queens building sit down on nice blue seats and have briefing avoiding all managment sitting in their tiny rooms around briefing area.go on flight most days have a good laugh come back once again avoiding the managment sitting in their tiny rooms job done
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Its not just EX BMED crew who are leaving because they are fed up with how they have been treated but so are BMI crew and lots of BMI crew are leaving for the same reasons as EXBMED Its a shame we all cant get together and sort out our problems and face the managers as one company. That would shock them as i think they are playing on the fact BMI and EX BMED crew are not getting on. Shocking way to run a company if you ask me.
im going to palma this thursday
with BMI from LHR back 19th...
please be nice to me (ex BMA LHR 77-85)
with BMI from LHR back 19th...please be nice to me (ex BMA LHR 77-85)
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Whenever a takeover takes place (I'd rather call it a merger because BMEd wasn't exactly a minnow of an airline), there is always some fallout. At the end of the day, all staff have the option of staying and being positive, or leaving. Staying and being negative is no help to anyone and will always cause friction. So decide.
There may have been differences between the BMED and bmi management style, but the bmi team are running it now, so you have to decide which way to go. Many people don't like change and yearn for the "good old days". Well they're gone for most jobs.
You may think that the grass is greener on the other side. Well be careful, often it isn't - it's bare. 
Skintman
So decide.There may have been differences between the BMED and bmi management style, but the bmi team are running it now, so you have to decide which way to go. Many people don't like change and yearn for the "good old days". Well they're gone for most jobs.
You may think that the grass is greener on the other side. Well be careful, often it isn't - it's bare. Skintman