Do You Look After Crew Travelling As Pax
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Pretty much the crew attitude at my former employer is, we gotta look after each other, cos nobody else is gonna do it. When I flew, I would always put jumpseaters in First, and if there were nonrevving FAs (or pilots, mechanics, etc) and I had room up front, I'd put them there too, for 2 reasons: the looking after each other reason, and also in case of an emergency. At least I knew I had some Able Bodied Persons to help out, and I knew where they were. Also nonrevs and their families I'd put up front - my former employer isn't known for treating its employees very well, so I think that added to the feeling of "us v them" and taking care of each other.
I didn't used to non-rev on other airlines when I was flying, because my airline happened to go pretty much where I wanted to go, but on the one occasion I did, I introduced myself as crew on another airline, and I was met with what I interpreted as indifference from the crew, but it could also have been a million and one other things, who knows. I did it mainly to let them know in case of an emergence where I was and they could count on my help, and then I worried in the back of my mind that it might look like the only reason I did it was to get an upgrade/free booze/perks/etc.
I don't introduce myself as ex-crew now when I fly, mainly for the reason I just said: I don't want the crew to think I'm doing it for upgrades or perks. I reckon I could do, but if there were an emergency I would immediately identify myself as ex-crew. I miss the camaraderie of flying, and think that looking after each other builds that feeling of family.
I didn't used to non-rev on other airlines when I was flying, because my airline happened to go pretty much where I wanted to go, but on the one occasion I did, I introduced myself as crew on another airline, and I was met with what I interpreted as indifference from the crew, but it could also have been a million and one other things, who knows. I did it mainly to let them know in case of an emergence where I was and they could count on my help, and then I worried in the back of my mind that it might look like the only reason I did it was to get an upgrade/free booze/perks/etc.
I don't introduce myself as ex-crew now when I fly, mainly for the reason I just said: I don't want the crew to think I'm doing it for upgrades or perks. I reckon I could do, but if there were an emergency I would immediately identify myself as ex-crew. I miss the camaraderie of flying, and think that looking after each other builds that feeling of family.
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Crew as Pax
I will usually bring some chocolates for the crew if i am paxing on a flight whether standby or full revenue. I never expect an upgrade even on my own airline. An Amaerican Airlines crewmember gave chocs to the crew on one of my flights years ago and i thought it was a lovely gesture so have follwed suit ever since. Just one thing though, I would hate for the crew to think it was a sneaky way of asking for an upgrade so depending on the flight, will usually give the chocs after take off.
Will always try my best to look after crew/staff of any airline on my flights. We have a lot of cummuters heading off on or coming in from longhaul flights and its always nice to be able to make them a bit more comfortable, whether its a move to an exit row or a free breakfast..
Will always try my best to look after crew/staff of any airline on my flights. We have a lot of cummuters heading off on or coming in from longhaul flights and its always nice to be able to make them a bit more comfortable, whether its a move to an exit row or a free breakfast..
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i always treat crew as i would like to be treated.
We are low cost, so no chance of upgrades, and everything is buy on board, but even so. I will still give a bottle of crew water and when im making a cuppa for us and F/D i will make the travelling crew one aswell, its just common curtesy.
ALthough when i am travelling as a pax, i dont make it known im crew, and i think other crew should be the same there is nothing worse than a pax getting on and informing you they are or used to be crew, and "expecting" things.
We are low cost, so no chance of upgrades, and everything is buy on board, but even so. I will still give a bottle of crew water and when im making a cuppa for us and F/D i will make the travelling crew one aswell, its just common curtesy.
ALthough when i am travelling as a pax, i dont make it known im crew, and i think other crew should be the same there is nothing worse than a pax getting on and informing you they are or used to be crew, and "expecting" things.
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Fuzzy makes a good point, I think there is nothing wrong in presenting yourself to the crew with a box of chocolates and mentioning your crew. As it has been mentioned many times, no one else will look after us so why not help out each other.
Here is a question for all the big airlines - the air nz the BA AND VS how do you like to be approached. I went to LAX with VS this year . with a box a chocolates in my airline carry off bag I went up to the mid galley to say gday.
I placed my seat number on the bag with a wee note saying im crew. The crew were lovely I was moved to an exit row which was cool. Unfortunatley there was a baby behind me. AS we were taxiing I saw smoke coming from the no.2 engine and alerted a crew member. Now I dont know if it was spotting that or just that was crew, After takeoff I was upgraded to p.economy which was amazing.
Has anyone had any luck getting a better seat or treatment from check in ? I wouldnt know what to say to them coz they have a stressfull job already.
Here is a question for all the big airlines - the air nz the BA AND VS how do you like to be approached. I went to LAX with VS this year . with a box a chocolates in my airline carry off bag I went up to the mid galley to say gday.
I placed my seat number on the bag with a wee note saying im crew. The crew were lovely I was moved to an exit row which was cool. Unfortunatley there was a baby behind me. AS we were taxiing I saw smoke coming from the no.2 engine and alerted a crew member. Now I dont know if it was spotting that or just that was crew, After takeoff I was upgraded to p.economy which was amazing.
Has anyone had any luck getting a better seat or treatment from check in ? I wouldnt know what to say to them coz they have a stressfull job already.
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been paxing with I****A D*R / M*D as extra crew without knowing anybody just spoke with the capt on frequency before landing meet him at the plane
got upgraded without asking anything the service was great
FA very friendly this guys knows how to take care of other crew
thank's
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I totally agree about looking after other crew, as I said before, and is true than in some companies is difficult, as low cost, charter, etc, what there is always something.
What it is also true is that some crew, when you introduce your self, usually in another airline, they automatically think you want an upgrade or something for free. An is not that. As somebody mentioned earlier, a Crew Member is the best ABP you could have onboard, so is good to know you have them on board!!!!!
What it is also true is that some crew, when you introduce your self, usually in another airline, they automatically think you want an upgrade or something for free. An is not that. As somebody mentioned earlier, a Crew Member is the best ABP you could have onboard, so is good to know you have them on board!!!!!
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This member couldnt be more right in so many ways. Knowing you have a spare crew member on board can help you out big time in the worst case senario.
Everyone tell your PPRUNE pals and get this one page known to all, lets sort each other out when poss, there is nothing wrong letting the crew know who you are just as long as its done in the right way.
spread the word, LETS LOOK AFTER EACH OTHER WHEN ITS OUR TURN TO BE PAX
Everyone tell your PPRUNE pals and get this one page known to all, lets sort each other out when poss, there is nothing wrong letting the crew know who you are just as long as its done in the right way.
spread the word, LETS LOOK AFTER EACH OTHER WHEN ITS OUR TURN TO BE PAX
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Hey, the ones that you should REALLY be looking after are crewing staff. !
You never know just how much we may appreciate that extra glass of wine the next time you have to call in !!
You never know just how much we may appreciate that extra glass of wine the next time you have to call in !!
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a box of chockies
never heard of that one, why not a bunch of flowers, as well, that would make the galley rather twee, or perhaps one bunch for the cockpit too....
I suppose the chockies must be milk, to be PC.!!!!.
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I suppose the chockies must be milk, to be PC.!!!!.
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Donuts
Before the ridiculous rules governing liquids and gels were introduced, it was my habit to purchase a bakers dozen of Krispy Kreme donuts from the (new)franchise at SYD Int terminal for presentation to the operating crew. The gesture always seemed to be appreciated. Given the stress airline crews are under in Australia at the present time they need all the support they can get.
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Alot of the time it is hard for ground staff to do "dodgy" upgrades in the check-in system as the management at some airlines will check the system, we can only do authorised u/g's if it is already in the booking so it depends on the gate team/dispatcher/csd all working along the same lines to do the unofficial ones, as has been mentioned there are too many spies out there now.
At my previous airline however, we pretty much had free reign to u/g whoever we wanted, but as it was only shorthaul at the time it wasn't a massive difference in the seat.
I'm just lowly ground crew, but I've had the "your duty free is in the locker above you Mr L/j" - thinking, I don't remember buying anything, then a nice from the crew member. Got to the hotel and opened the bag to find a bottle of wine and a bottle of champers too - all because me and my mate got the last 2 seats on the a/c, and were in the middle of the middle on a 2-5-2 config UA 777 and they were unable to u/g us !!. Thanks for that UA
I hate being unable to u/g people freely now. It is such a shame when the big seats are empty anyway - but too many spies. When I travel, I don't care about the service, I just like that bigger seat for the space and comfort. I'll just happily sit there, as long as I have my bottle of water, I'll have whatever food is left or even go without and I'll go to the galley myself for another re-fill.
Once had an
moment at my previous airline - moved a very pretty girl on staff travel into C. Didn't realise the guy that was a few paces behind was her b/f, so had to u/g him too !!.
At my previous airline however, we pretty much had free reign to u/g whoever we wanted, but as it was only shorthaul at the time it wasn't a massive difference in the seat.
I'm just lowly ground crew, but I've had the "your duty free is in the locker above you Mr L/j" - thinking, I don't remember buying anything, then a nice
from the crew member. Got to the hotel and opened the bag to find a bottle of wine and a bottle of champers too - all because me and my mate got the last 2 seats on the a/c, and were in the middle of the middle on a 2-5-2 config UA 777 and they were unable to u/g us !!. Thanks for that UA I hate being unable to u/g people freely now. It is such a shame when the big seats are empty anyway - but too many spies. When I travel, I don't care about the service, I just like that bigger seat for the space and comfort. I'll just happily sit there, as long as I have my bottle of water, I'll have whatever food is left or even go without and I'll go to the galley myself for another re-fill.
Once had an
moment at my previous airline - moved a very pretty girl on staff travel into C. Didn't realise the guy that was a few paces behind was her b/f, so had to u/g him too !!.
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Doing a lot of passive travel I always try to itendify myself to the cabin crew as a colleague. I just tell them that "oh, by the way, we're colleagues". Not to try and nick the better seats, but just to let them know that they have an extra resource in the cabin, should the need arise.
If I travel with another airline than my own and I'm forced to wear my uniform, I always de-uniform myself by removing eppaulettes and so on so that I can't be mixed up with the real crew. Also, when traveling as a passive crew I try to do everything exactly as the CA's want. I actually look at the briefing cards, do not open the seatbelt until the sign is ACTUALLY switched of and so on. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd hate to see a pax in uniform, ignoring instructions and behaving in a manner that increases the CA's workload!
Whatever benefits we recieve from the crew, that's just a bonus. I like the idea, but as a passive crew, I'd hate to be a burdon on the active crew!
/LnS
If I travel with another airline than my own and I'm forced to wear my uniform, I always de-uniform myself by removing eppaulettes and so on so that I can't be mixed up with the real crew. Also, when traveling as a passive crew I try to do everything exactly as the CA's want. I actually look at the briefing cards, do not open the seatbelt until the sign is ACTUALLY switched of and so on. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd hate to see a pax in uniform, ignoring instructions and behaving in a manner that increases the CA's workload!
Whatever benefits we recieve from the crew, that's just a bonus. I like the idea, but as a passive crew, I'd hate to be a burdon on the active crew!
/LnS
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never heard of that one, why not a bunch of flowers, as well, that would make the galley rather twee, or perhaps one bunch for the cockpit too....
I suppose the chockies must be milk, to be PC.!!!!.
glf
I suppose the chockies must be milk, to be PC.!!!!.
glf
Is nice when somebody brings you anything as they agknowledge you. I have always done it when flying on staff travel on my days off.
We need to keep looking after each other we are all on the same "boat" (flight).
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I commute to work between DUB and LHR. Whenever I fly EI i generally get spoilt rotten...brekkies coming my way etc. When I fly BMI it is hit and miss. Sometimes they are brilliant and spoil me rotten, other times not so much but always pleasant which is all that really matters...NOW....The odd time when I have to fly with my own airline who only operate into LGW from DUB it can be anything from a polite smile to just downright nastyness!!!
I always do my best when I know I have crew onboard one of my flights (or any staff for that matter) but for some reason my airline seems to have a general "attitude" towards other crew on flights making it very hit and miss! I just dont understand it at all. After all, if we cannot look after our own...who can we look after????
I always do my best when I know I have crew onboard one of my flights (or any staff for that matter) but for some reason my airline seems to have a general "attitude" towards other crew on flights making it very hit and miss! I just dont understand it at all. After all, if we cannot look after our own...who can we look after????
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It looks like the general answer is that we look after each. Great! As so many of you have mentioned, who will help us if we dont help each other?
We are in a very stressfull job - its only fair that we get sorted out when we finally become pax ourselves. I think everyone would give up a glass of champagne or any alcohol for that matter so we could be offered the better seat. As someone mentioned leave me with a bottle of water and You wont hear a peep out of me.
I am the same, If i get a better seat that is one less pax the crew have to worry about, I would sit back relax, sleep, watch the IFE and accept what ever food the crew swing my way.
We do have to sort each other out, we all work hard so what is wrong in getting looked after when we are pax?
We are in a very stressfull job - its only fair that we get sorted out when we finally become pax ourselves. I think everyone would give up a glass of champagne or any alcohol for that matter so we could be offered the better seat. As someone mentioned leave me with a bottle of water and You wont hear a peep out of me.
I am the same, If i get a better seat that is one less pax the crew have to worry about, I would sit back relax, sleep, watch the IFE and accept what ever food the crew swing my way.
We do have to sort each other out, we all work hard so what is wrong in getting looked after when we are pax?
