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Old 9th Oct 2007, 18:58
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training for the WW temps will end by late january.

more than 220 of these positions are made up of the regional groundstaff who started training in late august. so most, if not all, of them will be online by the end of december.

so that means a couple of courses of external candidates running side by side from mid december to the end of jan.
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Nice one. Like I said, it's just a guess. I wonder what's going to happen between January and April then. Perhaps a wave of recurrent training until they're ready for the EF holding pool to start? I know my recurrent was always spaced out by around 8 months, rather than 12. I didn't mind, though, I really enjoy SEP. I always seem to associate baked beans and scrambled eggs with the Cranebank canteen.
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 21:33
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LHR Course Dates

Hi, I received an email yesterday stating that I was successful at the interview for LHRWW and that no course dates were available at the present time so I would be kept on file as such. I just wondered if any of the other successful candidates received the same email and then was offered a date by phone a few days later, or that the people who were offered the job by phone, were offered a course date at the same time. I hope this makes sense. Many thanks in advance for your replies. Oh and just another question, roughly how many trainees are there on each of the WW courses.

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Old 10th Oct 2007, 14:26
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Ef Holding Pool

Hi my fellow swimmers!!! Has anyone got any new rumours or anything at all for us? Any one who jumped ship and went on to do the temporary contract, when do you start your training? I kind of wish I did that now even though it's only temporary. Im really tired of the waiting game!!! I did the temporary WW last year and it was fantastic!! Anyone else who did the temporary last year who is in the holding pool for EF now?
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I was speaking to a CSD yesterday, He is a trainer, He said that there will be More Eurofleet courses early next year, and at the Moment he is training some of the temporary 11 month courses made up of Displaced Groundstaff from the Regions and will be training the External recruits who will be on temporary 11 month contracts, He said 100% that any Temporary contract crew will be offered to go to Singlefleet Gatwick or their contracts will be terminated, including the Groundstaff who are on the temporary WW 11 month contract and no way will any of them stay at Heathrow after 11 Months. So missdoo I think you've made the right decision to stay in the Holdpool because at least once your waiting game is over you will be Permanent at Heathrow and won't have all that uncertanty after 11 Months. I'm sure the wait will be worth it in the end. Good luck and hope to fly with you soon.
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Old 10th Oct 2007, 17:14
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With all do respect Rach-G, the CSD you are talking about is a trainer and doesn't work in Manpower Planning. Today on the live chat with STS, he said that the board hasn't even approved the Recruitment- and Manpower Plan for 2008 yet, so how would this CSD know what will happen to the WW Temps. It might be LGW, it might be LHR or it might be nothing. Nothing is definite in BA until it actually happens!

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Old 10th Oct 2007, 20:08
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Ef Holding Pool

Rach-G, thank you for your post!!! It sures gives me some hope and a smile!! I'm well aware that nothing ever is certain with BA, I was there for 8 months and have experienced it first hand, but any glimpse of hope is very much appreciated and helps keep me afloat in that pool!!!!! Here's to meeting you online!!

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Old 10th Oct 2007, 21:50
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EF Holding Pool

Hi misdoo,

I'm also floating around in the pool at the moment. We are quite a few in this forum in the same fish tank .... sometimes fishing for rumours... to keep us afloat ahhhh.... well.

Happy Swimming...... I'm JAWS

Only kidding.

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Old 11th Oct 2007, 17:16
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Keep swimming, keep swimming.....

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WW Temps

Hi there,

I am in the same situation as you and am wondering the same! Which interview was you in?? I was on Fri at 12:30 - was just wondering if we'd met?
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So annoyed

Unfortunately I too got the dreaded email from BA to say I didn't get through and the usual, "sorry to say you have been unsuccessful etc etc"!!

Such a bummer as I thought I'd done ok and been myself. Only thing I can put it down to is that I may not have said what they wanted to hear when answering the questions in the one to one interview.

Oh well Virgin and Emirates here I come!!

P.s it's quite annoying when they say they cannot give any feedback, would be helpful to know which areas I could improve in.
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Well I got my email through on the 10th and I have been successful thank goodness the waiting was not that long apart from like alot of you I am in the dreaded hold pool!!

I am sure this question has been asked but how long have some of you been waitin any ideas on a time scale would be great!!
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 21:46
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When do the World Wide temps come online? I didn't realise we were getting another lot of temps...I find out more about my company on PPRuNe than I do by the company itself!!!! Will be nice to see some fresh, new faces at least.
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Old 12th Oct 2007, 22:11
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SD83,

I had my interview April 27th and received my acceptance email on May 4th which makes it just over 5 months and Im still waiting!!! However, I think yours will be different and faster. We're waiting for EF permanent contract courses whereas I would think they'd need the temps urgently. Good luck!! Swimming for prolonged periods is not fun!!!!!!
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Missdoo

Thanks for that!! 5 months that is a long old time to be waiting!! This would be my first flying job, if I ever get a course date that is so I am rather nervous but excited at the same time!!

I know there is a lot of speculation on here as to wether LHRWW temps are going to be kept on after the 11months and that is another on of my worries how easy is it to apply for a position again with BA wether it shorthaul or longhaul the reason I ask is the trainers on my interview said it is purely an 11 month contract and we would have to apply again for any other postions after that!!
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 09:51
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Hopefully they will keep us on after the eleven months, whether short or long haul! Imagine the money they are spending on each and every candidate to train them!
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Well, I did the temporary contract at LHR WW last year and at the end of it they offered us all permanent LGW. I didn't take it cause LGW was not a viable option for me so I left the company and went to another airline. When BA recruited again (which was only 3 months after I left) for permanent EF LHR this time, I applied again completely as an external canditate, the whole procedure from the beginning. Luckily I got the job again and I've now been in the holding pool for 5 months. Another girl from my initial temporary course however who also left and then reapplied, didn't get in the 2nd time around, I have absolutely no idea why!! It's like she was good enough the first time but 3 months later she wasn't!!!

The rumours say that you will be offered LGW at the end of your temporary contrary and I do think that you will. It's hard to keep the crew there and they always need more people. There is a slight chance that if they have already put enough temps in the courses, they may actually offer you LGW straight away. They are reknowned for getting their manpower numbers wrong, which is exactly what happened to us EF holding pool guys...

Good luck, either way I'm sure you'll be in training before us!!
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Anything above the eleven months should be considered a bonus! I'm not excepting anything else to be honest and should they offer me LGW at the end of the contract, I would have to consider it as it is not my first priority. Hopefully they will be recruiting for LHR EF at the same time!

I have already been put on a training course that begins in around two months. Hope to see you around soon the Compass Centre
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This isn't the first time the company have taken on temps and in the past they have been kept on (apart from non-performers). This is the first time I have seen the company STRESS that the contract is for 11 months and that is it.

In 2000 temps were taken on for EF. After 6 months, some were made permanent while some were extended for 3 months and then made permanent. Those that were made permanent after 6 months had languages or relevant qualifications. The rest HAD to be made permanent or released due to regulations regarding the amount of temporary contracts a crew member can do before being offered permanent contracts (a bit like UK charters).

If, in 11 months time, they have some vacancies in whatever fleet they need to put you in, it may well come down to performance.

My advice would be to put in 110% effort during the 11 months. Make sure your In-Flight Assessments are done. Hand them in yourself and make sure you photocopy them. Join the Union. Read up on the company (BA News, Cabin Crew News AND Investor Relations on ba.com). Know your job. Onboard, show initiative but don't be pushy or a know-it-all. If you want to make an impression, it needs to be a good one.

Above all, keep your nose clean. Behave yourself down-route and steer clear of those that don't. Hotel staff have been known to dob-in rude, nasty, drunk and loud crew. Make sure you pay off your crew-card on time. One major thing they will look for is sickness. Only go sick if you really, really have to. They will also look at lateness. Make sure you leave plenty of time to get to work. If you commute, check your loads beforehand and consider flying over the day before if need be.

Hopefully, they will keep you all on but it never hurts to be prepared in case they have to chose between temps. Good luck to you all.

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Old 13th Oct 2007, 20:44
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First Day Training

Hello, i was wondeing if any one cud tell me what's involved on the first day of training. Do we have a test on everything given in the Insight taining pack? worried my memory will fail me on the 3letter codes!

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