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Old 18th Mar 2007, 16:31
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Be interesting to share with us what the Welcome to Flybe course consists of and what you do on it.

So keep us posted and let us know.
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I've got mine tomorrow!
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Old 19th Mar 2007, 13:40
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Let us know how it goes and what they say ect.
Be interesting to see what has changed since I was there
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Jersey Crew And Other Flybe Crew

Hi there folks,

Just a shout out to any JER crew on here.
Basically trying to catch up on old work colleges.

I was based in JER from 1999 to 2004.

So if you were based in JER during that time, or know any of the crew still there that have been at flybe within those 6 years. Please say hello, would love to catch up with some of you I know.

Either Post on here or send me a private meesage.

Hopefully speak soon

Adam
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Old 20th Mar 2007, 09:43
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Sad Day at Brum.

Just taking a moment to reflect folks, as yesterday 19th was a sad day at Brum cos our oldest Performance Manager Ian Mackenzie, who opened up the BA base in 1972, finally took early retirement. He was a nice guy and looked after so many of us with problems, using good humour, compassion and his long expereince to resolve our problems and made us feel special. I know he reads prune as we have spoken about it, so I hope you have a long and happy retirement mate.

As for uniforms, loads have arrived, so it looks like we will all be in red next Sunday. The Welcome to Flybe course is OK, looking at the obcs, drills for catering, uniform regs etc. You get back what you put in, I sort of enjoyed that.

Rosters are out, I hear there are some 'drive yourself to SOU, operate 4 sectors' type trips! What's that all about, a 4 hour drive then operate!!!!!????? If I get one and they don't supply MT I shall be filling out a 'chirps' form I can tell you, can't be safe can it? I do that run to the coast to visit friends, its a nightmare at the best of times, can't imagine driving it then flogging up to LBA then CDG! Wonder what Ian Mac would think about that!

What's this on the pilots thread about ryanair opening a base in BRS? Anyone heard anything? Still mad at flybe for shutting down a great base, super place to fly from, crew are lovely.

Safe Flying All!
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Old 20th Mar 2007, 12:17
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ive got two lots of four days down in SOU,two of the four days are positioning, by plane, via belfast.Suits me,i cant be arsed to drive all that way. And i prefer the view from up there

OFB you must have been close to I Mac.You seem to be in the fleet office a lot by the sound of your posts!!
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Old 20th Mar 2007, 15:51
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Yes tigger, known him a few years, and it's OK to go into the fleet office you know, they don't bite!

Were you rostered to position by air or did you ask not to drive??
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Old 20th Mar 2007, 17:14
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ah but they try to bite sometimes,and sometimes it is wrongly = not good!
nope,just had it on my roster like this,im not complaining,although longleat is pretty close so im thinking of asking for a hire car one way so i can drive to longleat & into southampton because ive got 24 hours free there from when i arrive after positioning to when i report for my duty!
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 18:37
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Thumbs down

I went to my welcome course trying to be positive, what a waste of a day It was all about selling, no-one could answer any questions and after the rosters came out I think most crew quickly realised any information we had been given pre-signing was at best ill informed and at worst a big fat fib
And before someone tells me I should think myself lucky to have a job - I don't I have worked bloody hard over the years and to have this dropped on me with no choices is, in my opinion, utter ****e.
It is sad that people haven't stuck together and fought for something better.
I have every sympathy with people who have lost their jobs and I sincerely hope they find something better soon.
I mean no offence to anyone who works for Flybe, that is your choice.
I believe that the t&c's negociated may have improved things for you and I hope that people will continue to push for this to carry on.
The atmosphere in the crew room is dire, there is no-one to pass on information, uniform issue is a disaster, one girl has 3 shirts and 1 skirt and is being asked to operate on a 3 day tour with that!
What fun, I can't wait for the 25th
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 18:50
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Dolly im really surprised, i felt that the BHX welcome to flybe course was very positive, lots of information.I know they focus on selling, but that is what they do & it is their service standard. imagine if they had come over to us instead,that we were still bacx & we were teaching them how to give out sandwiches and drinks!!they would probably say that all were bothered about is customer service. its because its a change,its something different that it seems like that is all they are bothered about.BACON didnt push the selling thing when it went live, at least FlyBE do,because they know this is where they can make money.Just think of all the commission you will be getting compared to what we get now!!!
the T&C's arent THAT bad, ok we are taking a drop in some of our terms and conditions,but not many of them.would you rather have a drop in T&C's or no job?i know which I and many others would prefer.
Uniform here at BHX is pretty well organised & the PM doing this has done a marvellous job.yes,everyone has got a VERY basic issue of uniform,but nothing was ordered until the deal was signed on the first weekend in March for obvious reasons, and i think to issue that amount of uniform within two weeks - well they've done a spectacular job, dont forget they will have to get the pilots into uniform too.We've all got to go through this, I'm working Sunday but dont even have my uniform yet, but im just being patient because everyone seems to be trying their hardest, and the guys making the uniform can only make so much at any one time!!I go away on a four day trip next week,i doubt i'll have enough shirts etc, but what can i do?just make use of the facilities available to me to try & clean my shirts.we were told that they clean & dry pretty easily,so it shouldnt be a problem.
PLEASE try and be positive about the whole thing, we have to pull together to make this work.If it wasnt for Flybe, we'd ALL be out of a job.Flybe have got direction,they know where they're going and they know how to do it,unlike BACON/BACX - they wouldnt know how to organise a pi55 up in a brewery.
If you do have any questions that people wont answer for you up in Manchester, why not post them on here?There are a couple of Flybe guys who can probably answer them for you,if not im sure they'll do their best to find out
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 19:21
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I am glad you are finding it such a positive pleasant experience. I and the majority of my colleagues are not.
Why should I have to resort to asking questions on a public forum when I should have been given this information weeks ago.
I don't want to sell 'gifts' regardless of the commission I will make.
I am of the oldfashioned opinion that passengers are there to fly from A to B and NOT to shop.
As regards the uniform, I do understand the logistics of issuing it all in the timescale allowed. Obvious answer would be to wait until everyone has actually got the minimum required to enable them to look anywhere decent i.e/ skirt, jacket, which is incidently like a throwback to the 80's, and a shirt. Not too much to ask
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 19:22
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Tigger thats harsh saying BACE/BACON management could not organise a pi$$ up in a brewery they made some of there finest decisions while in there lol!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dolly,im sorry that you feel that way.is it PM's youve been asking in MAN about the whole flybe thing or other people?maybe after Sunday ask the Flybe PM's any questions you may have, or see if you can get a contact number for someone from Flybe to answer any questions,or maybe see if you can speak to the PM's at BHX?
Duty free has always been popular on flights, we used to do it when we were BACX but again didnt sell as much because it wasnt pushed. I can understand you saying that its about getting people from A to B and not selling things, i completely agree with you, but this is the way the market has turned and now it only seems to be a small minority of airlines who do not concentrate on selling items on board.
I believe there is talk of a new uniform,as a lot of us BACON crew have been asking for trousers & that the new uniform could be here within a couple of years.As far as im aware,anyone who doesnt have the new uniform after the 25th and is meant to be operating will be taken offline,not our fault i know but at least they want us all to look pretty much the same.
The lack of communication has caused low morale across the whole of the company,i thought that maybe the welcome to flybe days would improve things, but obviously not.Im sad to hear that there are a lot of people feeling this way in MAN,you all deserve better than to be misinformed (or not informed at all)
Marlowe - wasnt their best decision selling us to flybe??????
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 19:35
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Do you really believe that Flybe was their only option?
Perhaps it was more of a case of who they didn't want to sell it to.
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 19:38
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it could have been worse!
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 19:44
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That is of no concellation, either to me or to the pax who are voting with their feet.
I hope it goes well for you at BHX but expect a big recruitment campaign in MAN.
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good luck to you,and i hope things work out for you,whether you choose to stay with the new flybe,or to move on.
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 10:45
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Reality Bites!

I know I have a rep as being sometimes a doom merchant, but it's only because I want stuff to go well with the merger, and up till some news I had yesterday I have been very keen for the whole BACON/FLYBE thing to be a success, after all I need to work!

HOWEVER, it now seems FLYBE are going back on their word in several areas, perhaps AdamAdamski was right!

Crew support were told on Tuesday they would be kept until October while flybe looked at them, then one of them was told Wednesday in a full flybe crew room at BHX by the 'Manager' ( known I believe as Fat Bas***d so my spys in Flybe tell me) " we need to talk as we don't need you after Sunday as crew support is shutting down"!!!

Also he was overheard telling someone that flybe did not want the BACON PM's!

I hope this is all not true, it just seems however that our worst fears are coming home to roost. First BRS base closure, then rumour BACON pilots not getting their payment, now this about crew support.

I'm sure dustybin et al will hammer me for this, but there is no smoke without fire guys, IF all this is true, it smacks of duplicity at best!

I really hope its not, does anyone have any info about all this stuff??
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im shocked at that about CST,cos one of our lady PM's mentioned it when someone asked "what do we do if we need to fone CST after sunday" and she said "oooh just fone them,theyre staying for at least 6 months because Flybe are trialling it!"
Interesting times ahead for all.
has anyone seen the Kickstart 2007 webcasts on nextgenairline website?
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 11:18
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Crew support team??? don't even know what they are or do some info would be great. As for FB in BHX doesn't surprise or shock me, i suggest the person involved phone EXT and let them know (best to come from the horse mouth and not the donkeys arse) I'm sure they will kick his if they know.
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