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Old 19th Jul 2007, 14:49
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I am not sure how the recruitment process is being done but had my interview beginning of April and still waiting for a start date.
I know people who had there interview mid May and have either started a training course for Eurofleet or are about to start.
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 15:09
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that is absolutley discusting, if they realy wanted they could just slot you onto a course!!! but thats ba for you.

ams - they will also loose 3 777 when the 2 routes go to lhr, as the houston is twice a day. i think all the sfg guys are hoping for a miricle and that they will be flying these routes from lhr or xfer to lhr ww. i cant see that happenig ba is determined not to let the 40 crew go to euro lhr!!!
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 15:23
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No Way LGW crew will transfer to LHR WW!

I am afraid that is just a dream too far! The LGW crew are FAR junior to the LHR EF crew who are waiting to go to WW themselves.

The union would NEVER allow "queue jumping" to that extent.

IF any crew are needed on WW following the transfer of routes then EF crew will be transfered to WW and then LGW crew to LHR EF.
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 17:56
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I think you will find that when the New NSP list opens sep/oct this year all LGW crew will be entitled to put their names on the transfer lists for the fleet they wish to go onto or part time, that is part of the ACC NSP !

Regarding the current transfers due to happen soon from LGW it is still being discussed !

Alot of crew have been waiting paintely to transfer and havent been asked and have been with LGW for more than 5 yrs onwards , so on that note LGW does have alot of senior crew !
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 20:44
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But flyer55,
There maybe those that have been at LGW for many years, but when they joined the NSP, their seniority started from stratch. Or have I got that wrong? If I haven't, then those who have been at eurofleet for only 2 years will be more senior.
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 20:58
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Off Stand,
you are correct. Now we all have NSP seniority numbers, which for LGW start somewhere around 12900 and upwards to 14000.
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 21:37
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Hey Ams

correct me if im wrong peeps but the senority number i think is your individual staff number (well thats how my old airline did it)???
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 22:00
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at ba ur seniority number is diff to ur staff number.
ur sen num is allocated to you when u start and it is ur nmber within the company, the person that has been there the longest being number one, and the newest person being xxxxxx any new entrants at ba will have a seniority number of aroun 14000

ur seniority number is used when deciding who gets what leave, who works where on the aircraft, who gets what trips ect (at lgw), and most importantly at ba who gets part time and fleet transfers first.

this way the person wo has worked for ba the longest can get what they want before a new person
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 22:47
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What if you transfer to CC from another dept, when does your seniority start from?
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 23:38
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Jarvis,

If you transfer to Cabin Crew from another department, your "Cabin Crew" seniority will start fom the day of your training course (i.e. 1 AUG 2007), you will be allocated a ranking within your group based on your exam performances and also the BA service style standards (so no.1 would be most senior in your group, etc).

You will of course retain your DOJ for staff travel and pension benefits, but all Cabin Crew issues, (i.e. fleet transfers, eliligibility for promotion, work positions onboard, etc will be based on your Cabin Crew course date).

Hope this helps.
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Old 20th Jul 2007, 07:59
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Muizenberg

That makes good sense thanks for that,

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Old 20th Jul 2007, 23:07
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yes.

seniority numbers are only used for the cabin crew and flight crew communities in BA - the flight crew having their own, specific seniority system.

when you start, AMS-LHR, your seniority number will be around the 14,500 mark.

say on your course there is emma, bob and james.

emma is a major swat and her overall mark for her course (SEP; customer service; AVMED etc) is 98%; bob did very well, but not as good as emma and got 90%. james on the other hand did the 'worst' out of the entire training course of 20 people and scraped by with 80%.

their seniority numbers will be issued as follows:

emma (1st) - 14500
bob (2nd) - 14501
so and so (3rd) - 14502
so and so (4th) - 14503
so and so (5th) - 14504

etc, until:

james (20th) - 14519.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 09:07
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How to find out

Where do we find our seniority number? I looked everywhere on the Intranet.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 10:14
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Sweety,

When you get your ABCS sheet at the briefing, your seniority number is under your name. Also, (this is the case with worldwide, should be the same on other fleets) if you look in crewlink and check your leave, your seniority number is listed with your booked leave too.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 17:12
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:-)

Cheers, Off Stand! My seniority on leave thingy says 0! How strange... Maybe it's not decided yet?
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 17:43
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I would have thought it would be provided for you.....
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 18:00
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u do get food provided for you, but you wouldnt want to feed it to your dog, so on a moscow there and back you will see a few crew who bring their own fod.

with seniority they say that it goes on how good you are in your group, well that wasnt the case in our group, i think they just radomly give you a number. the swots from my course were the near the bottom!!
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 18:40
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I dunno if it applies to other airlines, I know that one certain airline, they are given a selection of what food is on offer and they can pick...or bring there own....so they crew can pick something out of econ, business, first....
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 18:45
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Hi AMS,

Think BA BOI and Lovethesky, pretty much answered how seniority is decided.

Have to also say, that "being a swat" is not the only criteria for getting a high ranking amongst your group. If you are a geniunely kind, considerate person, able to get along with most others in your group, contribute to group discusions, etc these are always taken into consideration.

Those that attain a high ranking, are usually quite academic, but also continue what they professed at their interview, and not in a phoney manner either. Show other trainees genuine interest, respect other's opinions, coach colleagues who maybe having difficultly, once in uniform follow uniform standards (DO NOT CHEW GUM IN UNIFORM!), be on time for everything, etc...other instructors from other groups can also give your instructors feedback if they've observed a particularly positive or negative action.

Hope this helps!
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 18:54
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well one of the guys of my course got 2 points ( all we be explained at the start of your course) and he was one of the highest in seniority, we even had people who had been flying for ba for 12 years at national bases who scored low in seniority, so i think that they radomly allocate your number, but the rumour is that it goeson how well you behave - so u will be
good!!!!

back to food, we get crew food on long sectors, it is diff to pax food, u also get a sandwich and a fruit tray.
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