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Well where do i start.
I think that its pathetic that a simple air-condition pack going down was turned into a Rapid Decompression .
Lets go at it point by point.
1. There are only 2 Air-conditioning packs not 4, why the ifm told the crew there were 4 I don’t know. That wasn’t really the BEST thing to do.
2. Informing the crew that there mite be an explosive decompression, but then not telling them to stow any of the carts or even to stop the service. what were you thinking?
3. Half of the crew didn’t even know what was going on, crew asking other crew is not really acceptable is it?
From what I have been told your not really the BEST Ifm Silverjet have.
I think that its pathetic that a simple air-condition pack going down was turned into a Rapid Decompression .
Lets go at it point by point.
1. There are only 2 Air-conditioning packs not 4, why the ifm told the crew there were 4 I don’t know. That wasn’t really the BEST thing to do.
2. Informing the crew that there mite be an explosive decompression, but then not telling them to stow any of the carts or even to stop the service. what were you thinking?
3. Half of the crew didn’t even know what was going on, crew asking other crew is not really acceptable is it?
From what I have been told your not really the BEST Ifm Silverjet have.
If the Flt Deck suspected a possible rapid decompression they would of done a PA to tell crew to takes seats as they were commencing a emergency decent or whatever your manual says in that situation rather than a briefing.
Secondly if my ifm/senior told me of a possible decompression I would straight away secure galley and toilets and not wait to be asked or told, then I would take my seat and strap in, we all know what happens in a decomp.
Dont forget you are all a team and inicitive comes with it. Maybe the IFM was not the best but did you not think to become a team player and use your inicitive?
PS not having a dig, just posting my views.
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Silverjet Commuting
I know I have posted before but I did'nt attend my Silverjet interview as I was advised that commuting from Glasgow would not really be possible. I have now heard that there is quite a few commuters and have been offered another interview? Do you know if this is the case. My friend is crew with Netjets and they pay for her commute back to Glasgow - do silverjet have any concessions at all - the company sound fantastic.
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Whatsgoingon whats your problem? reading your post it seems you have a personality problem with the person you are trying to subtlety "out" with your post. The question you have to ask yourself is given the same circumstances would you have done any better? Maybe there was a lack of understanding of what the IFM wanted done? more and more these days crews are flying together with a loose grip on a common language maybe somthing was lost in translation?
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I think we are moving away from the reason this thread was started - to give information to those who want to join SJ.
Surely instead of airing dirty linen in public, if you have a problem with the way a colleague has handled a situation you should be big enough to take it to your manager and voice it to them?
Surely instead of airing dirty linen in public, if you have a problem with the way a colleague has handled a situation you should be big enough to take it to your manager and voice it to them?
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the reason this thread was started - to give information to those who want to join SJ
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.....I agree, people should be able to voice an opinion based on their personal experiences as long as they are not offensive. I am a lot happier now at Silverjet as things are changing for the better. At the time, there was nobody I felt I could talk to without being judged. New aircraft, possible new routes and promotions so its on the way 
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Sorry your wrong on the flying hours I agree with Chris Gains. CAP371 24.2 (E) Cabin Crew rules states The annual and 28 day limits of flying hour appertaining to Flight Crew do not apply.
Chris is correct, the 2000 hrs duty hours is a new limit, not sure where your 1880 comes from. This is working time directive, not CAP. This can cause problems I know Easyjet ran into issues with its CC.
If the 28 day limits were applied a lot of airlines would come to a grinding halt, as would your flight pay. With the best will in the world 6 back to back Newarks could be rostered in a month for Pilots, so at a guess 7 for CC.
(7 x 3 days = 21 + 7 days off)
Sorry your wrong on the flying hours I agree with Chris Gains. CAP371 24.2 (E) Cabin Crew rules states The annual and 28 day limits of flying hour appertaining to Flight Crew do not apply.
Chris is correct, the 2000 hrs duty hours is a new limit, not sure where your 1880 comes from. This is working time directive, not CAP. This can cause problems I know Easyjet ran into issues with its CC.
If the 28 day limits were applied a lot of airlines would come to a grinding halt, as would your flight pay. With the best will in the world 6 back to back Newarks could be rostered in a month for Pilots, so at a guess 7 for CC.
(7 x 3 days = 21 + 7 days off)
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"I am Silverjet crew, I think the thoughts that they are not interested in BA crew are not true, as I am ex BA myself. I have to say this is a fabulous company and very different. There is a very positive vibe and it is refreshing to work with positive and happy crew. The Company is fresh and innovative, this is a pleasant change."
I can confirm. I went for an interview with Silverjet (though at the time I mentioned on this thread that it was a friend going for the interview) and am currently with British Airways.
I fulfilled their requirements for IFM and so asked that I be considered for that job. Though relatively young, I have a lot of "life experience" if you will and felt more than capable of taking on the role. Still, it wasn't to be. I was offered Service Co-Ordinator but the prospect of spending all my time in a galley didn't appeal - that's not why I became crew.
I turned down the job but hope to re-apply when I have more flying experience (approaching four years now) and might have more luck in a direct entry IFM position. I am keen to work for Silverjet so I haven't abandoned the idea entirely.
I can confirm. I went for an interview with Silverjet (though at the time I mentioned on this thread that it was a friend going for the interview) and am currently with British Airways.
I fulfilled their requirements for IFM and so asked that I be considered for that job. Though relatively young, I have a lot of "life experience" if you will and felt more than capable of taking on the role. Still, it wasn't to be. I was offered Service Co-Ordinator but the prospect of spending all my time in a galley didn't appeal - that's not why I became crew.
I turned down the job but hope to re-apply when I have more flying experience (approaching four years now) and might have more luck in a direct entry IFM position. I am keen to work for Silverjet so I haven't abandoned the idea entirely.
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Fair one, I appreciate your feedback.
Flight Time Limitations are not my strong point LOL, I usually only read on my limitations for duty hours per day with regards to discretion if the duty is going tits up lol.
I think I have misread my manual and going to look through again
Fair one, I appreciate your feedback.
Flight Time Limitations are not my strong point LOL, I usually only read on my limitations for duty hours per day with regards to discretion if the duty is going tits up lol.
I think I have misread my manual and going to look through again
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Flying hours and Duty Hours Debate
"An employer must ensure that crew do not work more than 2,000 hours in any 12 month period, of which total flying time must not exceed 900 hours.
Periods spent working overtime and on standby duty are captured under the definition of "working time" and should therefore be taken into account when calculating an individual's total annual working time. It should be noted that there was not previously any requirement in law or in CAA guidance which guaranteed a maximum of 2,000 hours annual working time."
This qutoe was taken from the DTI website on Civil Aviation (Working Time) Regulations 2004. Assuming that rostering periods are 28 days, there are approximately 13 periods in a year, one of which is holiday. Therefore, you are available to fly for 12 of the 13 rostering periods. 900/12=75 hours flying duty periods per 28 days. However, this is only an average. You can do more in one period. However, over the year maximum is 900 hours.
Hope that clears up the confusion.
PS. These regulations apply to Flight and Cabin Crew
Periods spent working overtime and on standby duty are captured under the definition of "working time" and should therefore be taken into account when calculating an individual's total annual working time. It should be noted that there was not previously any requirement in law or in CAA guidance which guaranteed a maximum of 2,000 hours annual working time."
This qutoe was taken from the DTI website on Civil Aviation (Working Time) Regulations 2004. Assuming that rostering periods are 28 days, there are approximately 13 periods in a year, one of which is holiday. Therefore, you are available to fly for 12 of the 13 rostering periods. 900/12=75 hours flying duty periods per 28 days. However, this is only an average. You can do more in one period. However, over the year maximum is 900 hours.
Hope that clears up the confusion.
PS. These regulations apply to Flight and Cabin Crew
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Hi all,
I just found out about this post and it is quite interesting
I 've just been invited for the 2nd round interview with SJ this coming Friday, any thought/tips or tricks for the day?
1 more question to ask the experience guy(s) and gal(s) here:
how long would it take to know the outcome? would that be straight away or have to wait for a couple of week(s) or month(s)
Thank you and have a good day
I just found out about this post and it is quite interesting
I 've just been invited for the 2nd round interview with SJ this coming Friday, any thought/tips or tricks for the day?
1 more question to ask the experience guy(s) and gal(s) here:
how long would it take to know the outcome? would that be straight away or have to wait for a couple of week(s) or month(s)
Thank you and have a good day
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silver jet interview
hi
the second day is quite informal, you will have a presentation in the morning an they will tell you a bit about the company then we all introduce ourselves.
After that we had a group exercise, split into groups of about 8, and they watch how you work together.
Then if your successful at that stage they then go onto give one to one interviews, about half the people who went got through to this stage.
Its quite a quick interview and have told us they will let us know by monday 2nd.
They all seem really nice and its quite a relaxed day so dont worry, and good luck!
the second day is quite informal, you will have a presentation in the morning an they will tell you a bit about the company then we all introduce ourselves.
After that we had a group exercise, split into groups of about 8, and they watch how you work together.
Then if your successful at that stage they then go onto give one to one interviews, about half the people who went got through to this stage.
Its quite a quick interview and have told us they will let us know by monday 2nd.
They all seem really nice and its quite a relaxed day so dont worry, and good luck!
Thank you
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Eos and MAXjet approach big airlines over partnership or sale
29.06.07
US all business-class transatlantic airlines Eos and MAXjet have approached a number of European carriers looking for a partner or possible buyer, The Times newspaper reports today. Both airlines operate flights from Stansted Airport to the US.
The airlines are believed to be looking for access to the marketing and procurement power of the larger groups, with the newspaper's sources saying they have approached British Airways, Air France and Lufthansa.
Eos is understood to be talking to private equity groups and institutional investors about selling the business, the newspaper added. It is reported to have ruled out an initial public offering (IPO) in London. Meanwhile, it said MAXjet is believed to have proposed a merger with UK business-only rival Silverjet. Both are listed on the UK Aim market with capitalisations of around £100m. MAXjet raised £47m via an IPO earlier this month.
Both BA and Virgin have announced plans to launch their own premium-class only flights (probably first and business, rather than just business) from European cities to the US next year, which would put the existing airlines under pressure. At least one investment back is also reported to be considering entering the market.
Business and first-class seats are the most profitable parts of running a transatlantic service and both BA and Virgin are concerned that the new carriers could cut into their margins.
A spokesman for MAXjet told The Times it was not in negotiations, while BA declined to comment. Dave Spurlock, founder of Eos, told the newspaper: 'We do not discuss our financing activities.'
29.06.07
US all business-class transatlantic airlines Eos and MAXjet have approached a number of European carriers looking for a partner or possible buyer, The Times newspaper reports today. Both airlines operate flights from Stansted Airport to the US.
The airlines are believed to be looking for access to the marketing and procurement power of the larger groups, with the newspaper's sources saying they have approached British Airways, Air France and Lufthansa.
Eos is understood to be talking to private equity groups and institutional investors about selling the business, the newspaper added. It is reported to have ruled out an initial public offering (IPO) in London. Meanwhile, it said MAXjet is believed to have proposed a merger with UK business-only rival Silverjet. Both are listed on the UK Aim market with capitalisations of around £100m. MAXjet raised £47m via an IPO earlier this month.
Both BA and Virgin have announced plans to launch their own premium-class only flights (probably first and business, rather than just business) from European cities to the US next year, which would put the existing airlines under pressure. At least one investment back is also reported to be considering entering the market.
Business and first-class seats are the most profitable parts of running a transatlantic service and both BA and Virgin are concerned that the new carriers could cut into their margins.
A spokesman for MAXjet told The Times it was not in negotiations, while BA declined to comment. Dave Spurlock, founder of Eos, told the newspaper: 'We do not discuss our financing activities.'
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question from a wannabee SJ
Have applied to SJ for the position of IFM approx 10 days ago. Havn't heard anything , not even an automated response. Any ideas on how long it takes for the company to get back to me ? Whats the best way to folllow up my application with the company ?
Also , a bit concerned as ex BA crew , are they still not really recruiting us ? (dont want to get my hopes up too much !! ) or is this not really taken into account ?
many thnks for any help
IB
Also , a bit concerned as ex BA crew , are they still not really recruiting us ? (dont want to get my hopes up too much !! ) or is this not really taken into account ?
many thnks for any help
IB
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Howdy IB,
Not sure where this Ex-BA rumour comes from, as far as I know SJ don't discriminate against anyone (not even me!)
Have you had a reply yet? All I could suggest is to send a mail to [email protected] and ask about your progress. I know we're only advertising for crew and s/c's on aviationjobsearch, but our site says different... good luck to y'all who apply, and maybe see ya in the Silver Skies!
Conny x
Not sure where this Ex-BA rumour comes from, as far as I know SJ don't discriminate against anyone (not even me!)
Have you had a reply yet? All I could suggest is to send a mail to [email protected] and ask about your progress. I know we're only advertising for crew and s/c's on aviationjobsearch, but our site says different... good luck to y'all who apply, and maybe see ya in the Silver Skies!
Conny x
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thnks conny
Hi conny ,thnks for ypur reply . I did exectly that and havn't heard back . I also emailed the general enqUirey email addy , and was told there is a backlog of applications at the moment.
Lets hope I hear soon
Thanks again
IB
Lets hope I hear soon
Thanks again
IB
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The interview
New to the forum, but have been interested in peoples comments about silverjet and same as most airlines you can't please everyone. Cabin crew is all about team work and its the crew that keep most airlines going and the reason most crew come to work (and the pay packet of course).
Had an interview with silverjet on the 26th and heard by mon 2nd that they had offered me a job. Must say i replied straight away as really excited about the future of silverjet. Can't wait to be online and work with those crew that are positive about the future too.
Had an interview with silverjet on the 26th and heard by mon 2nd that they had offered me a job. Must say i replied straight away as really excited about the future of silverjet. Can't wait to be online and work with those crew that are positive about the future too.
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