BA Temp Crew Will Be LHR WW, then..........
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Official.
The 6 month temp crew being recruited for LHR at the moment will be Worldwide until their 6 months is up.
Unnoficial but strongly rumoured.
After this they will be offered the new LGW mixed flying base.
BA have NEVER laid off temp crew in the past but it looks like they will ship them off to LGW after they have plugged the temporary summer shortage on WW LHR.
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The 6 month temp crew being recruited for LHR at the moment will be Worldwide until their 6 months is up.
Unnoficial but strongly rumoured.
After this they will be offered the new LGW mixed flying base.
BA have NEVER laid off temp crew in the past but it looks like they will ship them off to LGW after they have plugged the temporary summer shortage on WW LHR.
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Hey Speedmarque.....
I am one of the cabin crew that also work i recruitment.
It has not been decided that the temps will be placed into LHR WW yet. It is very much a case of 'see where we need the crew most when the courses start'.
Talks have started with BASSA. It has been decided that LHR EF will continue to operate LHR WW flights on the 767 on a 'month by month' basis until the LHR WW shortage has been resolved (ie indefinitely). Last week the number of WW flights operated by LHR EF were increased to include 4 x more weekly TLV flights. It is also being discussed to transfer another WW 767 route to EF in the coming weeks and if this happens it will be likely the temps will go to EF LHR.
As always with BA....................watch this space!!
I am one of the cabin crew that also work i recruitment.
It has not been decided that the temps will be placed into LHR WW yet. It is very much a case of 'see where we need the crew most when the courses start'.
Talks have started with BASSA. It has been decided that LHR EF will continue to operate LHR WW flights on the 767 on a 'month by month' basis until the LHR WW shortage has been resolved (ie indefinitely). Last week the number of WW flights operated by LHR EF were increased to include 4 x more weekly TLV flights. It is also being discussed to transfer another WW 767 route to EF in the coming weeks and if this happens it will be likely the temps will go to EF LHR.
As always with BA....................watch this space!!
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My sister who works as a loo cleaner in Stansted was doing some overtime in LHR T4 and saw W Walsh in the urinals and he was on his mobile and he was talking about putting all the 6month temps on a special wet lease contract for KLM CITYHOPPER and they will all be doing the Norwich-Leeds shuttle on 777s INDEFINETLY and that's true 'cause hell why can't it be with the rest of the rumours/truth that's posted here!!!!!!
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Hello Keeperboy,
It was a colleague of yours in recruitment who told me this just this afternoon. Is it not possible that others in the dept are more informed than you, sir?
Be good.
It was a colleague of yours in recruitment who told me this just this afternoon. Is it not possible that others in the dept are more informed than you, sir?
Be good.
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I don't know speedmarque, perhaps.
But I know when I was in the office on Monday we were told to tell anyone that called and asked, that the positions were for eurofleet. Then by Tuesday, we were told to tell them we don't know and they will find out on the day. (as discussions had started with BASSA re eurofleet operating more WW flights, thus alleviating the pressure on WW.)
Just sent a text to one of my collegues who is in the recruitment office all week and he has text back to say that they still don't know and probably won't know for a couple weeks yet.
But as you point out, maybe your mate is more informed (and not just one of us seconded part-timers!). You know how ba works, like to keep you in the dark to the last minute!
But I know when I was in the office on Monday we were told to tell anyone that called and asked, that the positions were for eurofleet. Then by Tuesday, we were told to tell them we don't know and they will find out on the day. (as discussions had started with BASSA re eurofleet operating more WW flights, thus alleviating the pressure on WW.)
Just sent a text to one of my collegues who is in the recruitment office all week and he has text back to say that they still don't know and probably won't know for a couple weeks yet.
But as you point out, maybe your mate is more informed (and not just one of us seconded part-timers!). You know how ba works, like to keep you in the dark to the last minute!
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The gentlemans agreement still stands as it has for years and BA would be very unwise to divert crew straight into WW LHR... They would p*ss off a LOT of people.
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The latest news is that BA DO want to place these temporary crew onto the Worldwide Fleet at LHR. A Trade Union has registered it's displeasure at this decision. So we will wait and see....
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I think its a rather good idea. Long haul needs some new blood and it would be a pleasant change to see people going out downroute instead of sitting in their rooms 'resting' for four days. I don't know who all these p*ssed off people are as everyone who's been in BA more than a couple of years has already had the opportunity to go to long haul.
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this is avery very BAD idea, and hopefuly bassa and the crew will make ba change thier mind.
it will upset all the people at lgw ww who are not being allowed to xfer at the moment, and all the people at lhr eurofleet on the xfer list. there are people with more than 2 years service on this list who have now decided they want longhaul. in totla there are aprox 800 people on the xfer list.
speaking to fellow crew their are very strong rumours of possible STRIKE action
it will upset all the people at lgw ww who are not being allowed to xfer at the moment, and all the people at lhr eurofleet on the xfer list. there are people with more than 2 years service on this list who have now decided they want longhaul. in totla there are aprox 800 people on the xfer list.
speaking to fellow crew their are very strong rumours of possible STRIKE action
I happen to be one of those 800 on the list... 
We'll see...
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hmmmm, now who exactly do you think will strike over this. Let me see, LHR WW with nice trips on their roster (8000 of the 13000), LGW EF not part of the NSP (1500 of the 13000), well that leaves a possible 4500/13000. Of those probably 2500 are committed LHR SH people and/or on part time contracts. So you are down to 2000 as a maximum. A no win situation imho.
As you say, only 800 on the transfer list, and they will have been in less than 2 years on average - can they afford to strike - I doubt it.
You speak big words but without backup....
hmmmm, now who exactly do you think will strike over this. Let me see, LHR WW with nice trips on their roster (8000 of the 13000), LGW EF not part of the NSP (1500 of the 13000), well that leaves a possible 4500/13000. Of those probably 2500 are committed LHR SH people and/or on part time contracts. So you are down to 2000 as a maximum. A no win situation imho.
As you say, only 800 on the transfer list, and they will have been in less than 2 years on average - can they afford to strike - I doubt it.
You speak big words but without backup....
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How many of the people at LGW WW who are waiting for transfer to LHR WW have been in BA for more than two years? I'd have a guess that a large number of the people at LGW WW are the people who joined on LGW WW. If they can go straight to long haul why shouldn't other new entrants.
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remember the '97 strike?
it was over BA's announcement of a new contract for those joining after '97.
those who went on strike were on the old contract with nothing what-so-ever to loose thru the introduction of a different contract for new starters. they went on strike on the basis of principle, not selfishness.
it was over BA's announcement of a new contract for those joining after '97.
those who went on strike were on the old contract with nothing what-so-ever to loose thru the introduction of a different contract for new starters. they went on strike on the basis of principle, not selfishness.
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They didn't go on strike, they mostly went sick and you got the new contract anyway. Do you think they'll all go on strike over a couple of hundred temp contracts on LHR WW? They already recruit new entrants direct to LGW WW and they have recruited permanent contract crew to LHR WW in the past so the precedent is set.
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well even if we just went sick and caused a few flights to be cancelled, id be happy that ba then knew how pissed off we were. hit them in the pocket and maybe they will listen.
handsolo - they recruited into lgw ww cause no one wanted to go there, the xfer list and volunter list were cleared.
handsolo - they recruited into lgw ww cause no one wanted to go there, the xfer list and volunter list were cleared.
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There were plenty of transfers from ground based staff in Scotland to LGW WW ahead of the transfer list. If crew went sick and caused a few cancellations how would they tell the difference between that and any other day?
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well even if we just went sick and caused a few flights to be cancelled, id be happy that ba then knew how pissed off we were. hit them in the pocket and maybe they will listen.
There are ways and means to influence any process be it legally through the union, working to rule, speaking to managers informally. Spinelessly crippling company operations through going sick will lose you any credibility and any sympathy from customers or fellow employee groups.
If you don't want to do the job for which you were hired, I would for example advocate fully to bring on the mass hiring of foreign-based, highly professional and motivated staff in far greater numbers than at current levels to eliminate those whom think they deserve the earth for little or no productivity gains or input.
How on earth do you think it would be at all efficient to retrain EF staff to LHR WW, then to bring them back again at the end of the short period for which this greater number of staff are required? ARE YOU ALL MAD?! BA cannot afford to train you up to longhaul aircraft only to long-term see you only on shorthaul aircraft once the period is up.
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quote - re heat
I would for example advocate fully to bring on the mass hiring of foreign-based, highly professional and motivated staff
ba has already done this, were over run with foreign employees
I would for example advocate fully to bring on the mass hiring of foreign-based, highly professional and motivated staff
ba has already done this, were over run with foreign employees