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Old 15th Jan 2006, 21:58
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Re: BA Temp Crew Will Be LHR WW, then..........

Not to the nth degree you aren't
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Re: BA Temp Crew Will Be LHR WW, then..........

As an 'outsider' looking in, I really can't believe what a minority of you are saying.. I have to agree with 'hand-solo' on this one, I have a couple of close friends at LHR WorldWide, and I couldn't think of a better way to 'infuse' some new life into an ageing, tired-out dinosaur! It'll certainly put the cat-among-the-pigeons I bet! Going sick to prove a point to your employer, I don't think so.. did the groundstaff get away with not having to swipe-in or out after they went on strike, those changes were inplemented to make a more cost-concious environment & to stop check-in staff from 'swinging the led'.. These similarities can also be applied to what you're suggesting by giong sick, who's respect do you have then? your company looks 'stupid' again with excessive bad publicity for a minority of people who 'thrown there rattle out of the pram' I have to agree with 're-heat' also, it appears that foriegn cabin crew are more motivated & proffessional than the minority at B.A. who thinks the earth revolves around them... Anyway, there is a whole host of very capable & talanted individuals who are ready to step into the B.A. cabin crew mould, and I applaud them wholeheartedly for being keen & actually wanting to do the job & do it well. If sickness goes below a certain level, that doesn't make anyone look good on paper to any future employers, and that may be the case for some who seem hell-bent on 'trying' to hold the company to ransom & tarnish the already tarnished image of YOUR company!
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Re: BA Temp Crew Will Be LHR WW, then..........

As an 'outsider' looking in......................yes quite.
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Re: BA Temp Crew Will Be LHR WW, then..........

bigflaps;

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I would for example advocate fully to bring on the mass hiring of foreign-based, highly professional and motivated staff

ba has already done this, were over run with foreign employees

Gee bigflaps. Welcome to BA. Fly the unfriendly, racist skies. If your a foreign pax you won't get served and if your a foreign member of crew you'll be cleaning the toilets only. I'm sure if you had your way BA would only let caucasian english people on the flights !!! ooops and only caucasian english people clean the planes, load the baggage, check-in pax etc etc etc. Do you wear a white hood when you're working ?
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 06:39
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God there is a lot of crap written about BA on this thread. How many of you actually work for the airline? I have never read so much bollocks in my whole life.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 09:11
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Re: BA Temp Crew Will Be LHR WW, then..........

OzzieO.. I don't think my post was 'crap' I actually pointed out some very valid points to those in the minority at B.A. who give the company a bad name.. As for being an outsider, I wasn't up until 2000 when I worked both short & long-haul fleets LHR at B.A. & the only reason I left at the time was because my mother died. B.A. were absolutely fantastic towards me & held my job open for 18 months even though I was at home looking after my father. I'm most certainly not a .B.A. basher or indeed an outsider & I will never write 'crap' about them. But I seriously think some of you should 'watch-out' flexibility is the key in any airline & changes are coming, whether you like it or not!
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 11:58
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yes superstewardess your post was a load of cr*p. young blood can be injected into longhaul lhr but taking people at eurofleet who have done on ly a few months service.
as i WORK for ba i can tell you that it is very hard to work with crew for who english is not their first language.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:13
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There has been plenty of new blood injected into long-haul over the past year and a half with about 800 crew making the transfer from LHR EF.

Back to the post tho: I think whatever BA will gain by making the temps LHR WW they will lose by loss of morale on EF.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:30
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as i WORK for ba i can tell you that it is very hard to work with crew for who english is not their first language.
Presumably that includes you Bigflaps?

There has been plenty of new blood injected into long-haul over the past year and a half with about 800 crew making the transfer from LHR EF.
Ooh, about 8% of the total! Besides, by the time crew have done a couple of years on EF many have already got 'the attitude', including a desire to stay in their room downroute, refusal to extend even the most basic of courtesies on the bus and total lack of any team spirit. Bring on the new blood!
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:42
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Originally Posted by bigflaps
as i WORK for ba i can tell you that it is very hard to work with crew for who english is not their first language.
Sorry but that is a total load of CR*P.

In my time at BA I have rarely had a problem communicating with another crew member. The vast majority of foreign crew speak excellent english. Yes, I am occasionally asked to slow down when I speak or explain words or unusual phrases (my background is E. London so some of the slag is confusing!) but that is to be expected.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:45
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Originally Posted by Hand Solo
including a desire to stay in their room downroute, refusal to extend even the most basic of courtesies on the bus and total lack of any team spirit. Bring on the new blood!
Unfortunatly a lot of the current "new blood", myself included, are chosing to stay on EF for the social side of things. If I'm going to be with a miserable unsociable crew I'd rather be on a Stockholm nightstop than thousands of miles away in Sydney...
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 12:51
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but thats the point chewy, you don't have to sit in your room, if you motivate yourself and others 9 times out of 10 someone will go out with you.

Just leave the chewbaca suit in your room
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 18:10
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Hand....we've been thru this in other threads....

Yes, there are a minority of cabin crew (on both long-haul and short haul) that really have a selfish, miserable attitude (I had one on my last trip). This miserable cow on my last trip was just vile to everyone....passengers, Flight and Cabin crew. But hey, she only makes life harder for herself than anyone else.

But, ON THE WHOLE, we get on very well with each other, and our flight crew collegues.

In fact, on my past three trips, we had combined FC/CC room parties.

Just remember, maybe the BA Flight Decks could do with a little bit of 'fresh blood' (especially in the jumbo cockpits) as much as the cabins could!

And if 800 transferred crew equals 8% what difference are a couple hundred temps gonna make?
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 22:30
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I currently work for virgin as a purser and was thinking of applying for the temp position, but can anyone tell me what the chances are of being kept on?? dont wana leave a permenant position to be told bye bye at the end of 6months. Evan if it meant transfering to lgw or sh lhr.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 22:32
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Flyme69 you will be kept on unless you do something really drastically wrong. You may end up at LGW though.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 22:33
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flyme you definitely won't be kept on LHR WW. Most likely you would be offered LGW single fleet.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 23:30
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thanks for that, but seems a bit silly taking on new crew for ww fleet and not doing a conversion for those on the waitlist!! if I am offered lgw at the end of the 6 months will that be L/H ??
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 23:51
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As a new entrant to WW LGW and with 6 long trips firmly under my belt now I have to say that the Gatwick crew are fantastic good fun. Have been to countless room parties and excursions. All the crew have generally got on and all the flight crew have been included. Think this talk of miserable crew and them and us with the flight deck is really exaggerated.
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Old 17th Jan 2006, 23:59
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Flyme LGW short-haul and long-haul are merging into 'LGW Single Fleet' so you would be doing a mix of long and short-haul flying if they offered you a position down there.

Pay, allowences and T & C's will be along the current eurogatwick lines though, not NSP. The T & C's and pay will be considerably lesser than what you will experiance @ LHR WW. Any other q's just pvt.
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Old 18th Jan 2006, 09:23
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Just remember, maybe the BA Flight Decks could do with a little bit of 'fresh blood' (especially in the jumbo cockpits) as much as the cabins could!
Well there's plenty of it. There've been plenty (100+) of new hire First Officers onto the -400 and 777 in the past year.
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