Badly behaved SLF
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From: Cloud 9
Paxboy,
As airline staff I wasn't suggesting that pax get seriously drunk, that would be going to the extreme!
Since they banned smoking, and I am a smoker, there is bugger all else to do on a flight, no movie (inter Europe), bugger all food, have you seen the menu on Austrian Airlines? I for one am fed up with pizza slices and seafood baguettes thus a couple or so beers during the flight would not be considered unreasonable.
But ..... as an instance, KLM economy class, inter Europe, is like a desert, the consumption of alcohol is strictly forbidden but the other side of the curtain, in business class, the alcohol is flowing freely.
Now by your standards, why is it OK for a business class pax to get drunk and wet his seat but not OK for the guy sitting behind him to do the same?
The best way I find to get thru a non-smoking flight is to doze or sleep, I don't have to drive when I get to my destination thus a few beers, in moderation, will help me doze or sleep.
And, in 26ish years of regular travelling, I have never wet my seat nor offended another passenger. Your response was going to the extreme and referring to a very small minority and not the regular and sensible traveller.
As airline staff I wasn't suggesting that pax get seriously drunk, that would be going to the extreme!
Since they banned smoking, and I am a smoker, there is bugger all else to do on a flight, no movie (inter Europe), bugger all food, have you seen the menu on Austrian Airlines? I for one am fed up with pizza slices and seafood baguettes thus a couple or so beers during the flight would not be considered unreasonable.
But ..... as an instance, KLM economy class, inter Europe, is like a desert, the consumption of alcohol is strictly forbidden but the other side of the curtain, in business class, the alcohol is flowing freely.
Now by your standards, why is it OK for a business class pax to get drunk and wet his seat but not OK for the guy sitting behind him to do the same?
The best way I find to get thru a non-smoking flight is to doze or sleep, I don't have to drive when I get to my destination thus a few beers, in moderation, will help me doze or sleep.
And, in 26ish years of regular travelling, I have never wet my seat nor offended another passenger. Your response was going to the extreme and referring to a very small minority and not the regular and sensible traveller.
Life's too short for ironing
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From: Scotland, & Maryland, USA
Is the booze culture when travelling a peculiarly British thing? After 4.5 years living in the US, when I've probably averaged about 4 or 5 commercial flights a year, I've yet to see the sort of antics I used to observe in the waiting area at MAN airport. Now that doesn't mean there are no drunks, just that I have never seen anyone wasted at a US airport. And there's plenty of hanging around time to be filled when travelling here. Maybe its something to do with the wishywashy beer here 
To say that the extended waiting time due to security changes is to blame for the drunkeness is a poor excuse. We all have to hang around and wait at various times in our lives, but don't get legless everytime. Whats wrong with watching a film, reading a book/magazine/newspaper, chatting to companions? Everyone has the choice, why do people choose to drink to excess? I don't know the answer to that one....fear of flying is definitely one reason, lack of self control or respect for others?
To say that the extended waiting time due to security changes is to blame for the drunkeness is a poor excuse. We all have to hang around and wait at various times in our lives, but don't get legless everytime. Whats wrong with watching a film, reading a book/magazine/newspaper, chatting to companions? Everyone has the choice, why do people choose to drink to excess? I don't know the answer to that one....fear of flying is definitely one reason, lack of self control or respect for others?
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From: The Winchester
There is certainly something odd about the Brit drinking culture...at either end of my UK/European weekly commute, around air port bars its quite common to see groups of Brits ( sadly by the volume of their conversations there is no doubt about the nationality) hoovering up pints of lager at 5, 6, or 7 in the AM...Now the Brits aren't the only morning drinkers - I've seen a planeload of French paras almost all indulge in a civilised quiet breakfast time drink, but why is it that a significant number of Brits seem obsessed by "going on the lash" at breakfast time in Airport bars ?
Oh yeah, FWIW I'm a Brit and definitely not tee total...but what the h*** is going on here?
Oh yeah, FWIW I'm a Brit and definitely not tee total...but what the h*** is going on here?
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From: LGW
Gatwick Village = South Terminal = Easy Jet + Virgin + Charter, Charter, Charter!!!!!!
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From: East of Runway 21
Not so bad as some things mentioned, but annoying all the same...
Pax clipping toenails and leaving them on the floor (eewwwwww!
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Getting your mate to watch your luggage so you can get away with not paying excess (don't think I don't know it's yours... I'll just charge yer mate instead...
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Pax pinching the FA's butt... (like, what makes you think that's ok??)
Flogging drinks off trolley when FA's back is turned (don't think she didn't see you either!) just don't ask for a coffee later you may get more than you bargained for....
Geez some pax are so gross...
Pax clipping toenails and leaving them on the floor (eewwwwww!
)Getting your mate to watch your luggage so you can get away with not paying excess (don't think I don't know it's yours... I'll just charge yer mate instead...
)Pax pinching the FA's butt... (like, what makes you think that's ok??)
Flogging drinks off trolley when FA's back is turned (don't think she didn't see you either!) just don't ask for a coffee later you may get more than you bargained for....
Geez some pax are so gross...
Lady Lexxington
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From: The Manor House
I just don't buy the "scared of flying" problem. I used to be terrified of flying and do you know what I did? I asked the doc for a prescription for a couple of valium and after that I stuck to using rescue remedy. I never, never got drunk. That just makes the problem worse.
We see this problem all the time at MAN in T1, which is mainly Lo-Co/Charter, there is a relationship no matter what you say.
We see this problem all the time at MAN in T1, which is mainly Lo-Co/Charter, there is a relationship no matter what you say.
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From: England
Since they banned smoking, and I am a smoker, there is bugger all else to do on a flight
I overheard someone telling the person next to him the most outragous stories once. I'm convinced he was making them up to entertain himself.
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From: varies..a lot
PLease explain:
Why can't
a) people be breathalised prior to boarding
b) if over limit, stopped from boarding -AND NO REFUND
Why do airlines serve alcohol on flights?
There is no excuse for being pissed when flying. It's unpleasant for the other pax and crew should never have to put up with drunks. IT IS THAT SIMPLE!
If booze is to be served, for profit etc, 1 drink with a meal. That's it. You don't need to get pissed simply because you cannot find anything else to do when flying. Read a book and get some culture!! What bull**** that because there is no movie and the food is crap, the only thing to turn to is booze.
I am half Irish and have lived in Eire for 28yrs. I am sick to death of the pisshead mentality of the Irish and the English. " oh dear, I have to wait 2hrs before boarding, oh well, best ram 6 pints down my neck... there is simply nothing else to do!"
I simply don't get it, sorry if I offend anyone out there from the Ireland and the UK, but it's true, as soon as there is a social occasion, GET THEM IN QUICK, AS MANY AND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE!
I am sick to death of it, no wonder the continent think we are muppets. Prime example, I was on a flight to Turkey, this Irish middle aged woman was so pissed, that during a 30 min stop at one airport in Turkey, she sat on the steps of the plane and lit up a fag! Very clever, especially when we were refuelling!
Time to grow up and be responsible, the world will not end if you can't drink for a few hours.
End of rant...hang on, not quite.....
Ah that's Better
Why can't
a) people be breathalised prior to boarding
b) if over limit, stopped from boarding -AND NO REFUND
Why do airlines serve alcohol on flights?
There is no excuse for being pissed when flying. It's unpleasant for the other pax and crew should never have to put up with drunks. IT IS THAT SIMPLE!
If booze is to be served, for profit etc, 1 drink with a meal. That's it. You don't need to get pissed simply because you cannot find anything else to do when flying. Read a book and get some culture!! What bull**** that because there is no movie and the food is crap, the only thing to turn to is booze.
I am half Irish and have lived in Eire for 28yrs. I am sick to death of the pisshead mentality of the Irish and the English. " oh dear, I have to wait 2hrs before boarding, oh well, best ram 6 pints down my neck... there is simply nothing else to do!"
I simply don't get it, sorry if I offend anyone out there from the Ireland and the UK, but it's true, as soon as there is a social occasion, GET THEM IN QUICK, AS MANY AND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE!
I am sick to death of it, no wonder the continent think we are muppets. Prime example, I was on a flight to Turkey, this Irish middle aged woman was so pissed, that during a 30 min stop at one airport in Turkey, she sat on the steps of the plane and lit up a fag! Very clever, especially when we were refuelling!
Time to grow up and be responsible, the world will not end if you can't drink for a few hours.
End of rant...hang on, not quite.....
Ah that's Better
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From: UK
In my experience when you fly easyjet and to a lesser extent flybe, you are very likely to come across badly dressed scum. When flying BMI or BA this simply does not happen. The funniest experience of airborne chavs was during the summer on a flight from LGW to BFS. Daddy chav, complete with burberry hat and a belly hanging over his tracksuit bottoms, tripped climbing onto the airstair which resulted in the aforesaid tracksuit bottoms comming down just enough to reveal some hilfiger boxers and his large arse crack. His chavette in training (daughter) was similarly attired and had most of argos' stock of jewellery hanging off her.
Cue the "thats so unfair" comments.
People such as these beg to be slagged to death for their behaviour and overwhelming lack of taste. They have a "get pissed" mentality and seem to pour any substance which is vaguely flammable down their necks before boarding a flight to join some of their countrymen in some hole in spain.
As much as we can complain, they are great entertainment from a safe distance.
Cue the "thats so unfair" comments.
People such as these beg to be slagged to death for their behaviour and overwhelming lack of taste. They have a "get pissed" mentality and seem to pour any substance which is vaguely flammable down their necks before boarding a flight to join some of their countrymen in some hole in spain.
As much as we can complain, they are great entertainment from a safe distance.
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From: London
Its all true the passengers on those airlines mentioned are plebian in the extreme ghastly drunks. But what about the hostesses awful common accents regional in most cases but some with that awful elocution class harshness.
Enough to turn anyone to drink.
But in anycase of course some inhabitants of the british isles have a problem with drink. If the do and they are causing trouble then dont let them fly. Otherwise who cares, a lot of the population only flies a few times a yea,r its a treat for them-why shouldnt they get merry- if they overstep the mark bar them.
Enough to turn anyone to drink.
But in anycase of course some inhabitants of the british isles have a problem with drink. If the do and they are causing trouble then dont let them fly. Otherwise who cares, a lot of the population only flies a few times a yea,r its a treat for them-why shouldnt they get merry- if they overstep the mark bar them.
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From: USA
What a load of sanctimonious bollocks being written.
Yes, lets breath test the passengers but only after they breath test the cabin crew infront of all the passengers aswell!
Lets get our own house in order first. There are enough incidences of drunk/ over the limit cabin crew, we have all smelt them as they turn up for work.
Which reminds me what did happen to the two P**heads from BA who got done in Helsinki? Hopefully both sacked for bringing us all into disrepute. With incidences like that, we really do not help our cause.
Yes, lets breath test the passengers but only after they breath test the cabin crew infront of all the passengers aswell!
Lets get our own house in order first. There are enough incidences of drunk/ over the limit cabin crew, we have all smelt them as they turn up for work.
Which reminds me what did happen to the two P**heads from BA who got done in Helsinki? Hopefully both sacked for bringing us all into disrepute. With incidences like that, we really do not help our cause.
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From: London
my most cringy flight was a BA shuttle from LHR-GLA on xmas eve late 90's, 'donald' a Glaswegian drunk sat next to me and proceeded to make me feel v uncomfortable throughout the flight, he was plastered on G and T and spoke absolute drivel throughout the flight. Saying that i was on a Easyjet flight LTN-GLA a couple of years lateR again, xmas eve and there was a tracksuited chav with gold hoops and b/b cap, high on amphetamine and tennets i suspect, telling the EZY despatcher 'to get a f****** move on' at the gate in LTN.
Just goes to show you get a better class of drunk on BA, at least he was drunk on G and T!
Edited for bad spelling (yes ive got glasgow roots and im posting this at 5am with a g and t in my hand!)
Just goes to show you get a better class of drunk on BA, at least he was drunk on G and T!
Edited for bad spelling (yes ive got glasgow roots and im posting this at 5am with a g and t in my hand!)
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From: Hong Kong
There is another side to the subject of drinking on flights. My wife and I recently had a dreadful flight on Emirates.
We were returning to Hong Kong and boarded the Dubai/HK leg on 5th November. Sitting in front was, as it turned out later) a Greek gentleman and his wife. A meal was served and my wife chose a bottle of wine to go with her meal. I had a beer. My wife was having trouble with her TV monitor in the seat back and was prodding fruitlessly at the screen. The “gentleman” in front leapt up and turned on my wife screaming that if she was going to do that for the rest of the flight he would be having a go at her! The whole aircraft heard this outburst. We were stunned into silence and just looked at each other.
After the trays were removed my wife was given a second bottle of wine, (lets not forget they are small bottles!!) and I had a second beer. The drinks were on the seat tray in front as we read our books. Without warning the “gentleman” in front shot his seat back into the reclining position, promptly dumping my wife’s wine all over her lap. She cried out with an inevitable “!!!!!!”. The man leaps to his feet again and commences screaming at her again. “How was I to know you had a drink, you stupid woman! Anyway, you should watch your drinking!!” Not wishing to inflame the situation, I asked him to please sit down and face the front. He then turned on me stating he would have a go at me as well, telling me I should also watch my drinking and watch out for my wife’s drinking!!
My wife went to the crew at the rear to clean up the spilled wine. They asked what was going on. They then advised that if there was any further trouble to let them know as they would not accept any air rage on the flight. Ten minutes later one of the cabin crew arrived with 2 glasses of champagne from business class and announced in a loud voice, “Enjoy your champagne madam!”. This clearly infuriated the “gentleman” who again slammed his seat back. My wife was ready for him this time, snatching her glass away before being caught by his seat. The man then told the cabin crew member that he wished to complain about us, she responded by telling him we had already complained about him and would he please raise his seat slightly and to leave us alone.
About 30 minutes later the “gentleman” carried out his ‘coup-de-grace’ slamming his seat back so violently that he injured my wife’s knee. She was in tears of pain. The crew again told the man to sit up slightly and to give us room.
My wife is still suffering from pain to her knee. What were my options? Request that the police be called and report him for assault? Some friends suggested having a go at him, however, I feel that this would simply have inflamed the situation. My point is that it isn’t always drinking that causes problem passengers!!
By the way, if the lovely girl who looked after us reads this, just want to say thanks!
We were returning to Hong Kong and boarded the Dubai/HK leg on 5th November. Sitting in front was, as it turned out later) a Greek gentleman and his wife. A meal was served and my wife chose a bottle of wine to go with her meal. I had a beer. My wife was having trouble with her TV monitor in the seat back and was prodding fruitlessly at the screen. The “gentleman” in front leapt up and turned on my wife screaming that if she was going to do that for the rest of the flight he would be having a go at her! The whole aircraft heard this outburst. We were stunned into silence and just looked at each other.
After the trays were removed my wife was given a second bottle of wine, (lets not forget they are small bottles!!) and I had a second beer. The drinks were on the seat tray in front as we read our books. Without warning the “gentleman” in front shot his seat back into the reclining position, promptly dumping my wife’s wine all over her lap. She cried out with an inevitable “!!!!!!”. The man leaps to his feet again and commences screaming at her again. “How was I to know you had a drink, you stupid woman! Anyway, you should watch your drinking!!” Not wishing to inflame the situation, I asked him to please sit down and face the front. He then turned on me stating he would have a go at me as well, telling me I should also watch my drinking and watch out for my wife’s drinking!!
My wife went to the crew at the rear to clean up the spilled wine. They asked what was going on. They then advised that if there was any further trouble to let them know as they would not accept any air rage on the flight. Ten minutes later one of the cabin crew arrived with 2 glasses of champagne from business class and announced in a loud voice, “Enjoy your champagne madam!”. This clearly infuriated the “gentleman” who again slammed his seat back. My wife was ready for him this time, snatching her glass away before being caught by his seat. The man then told the cabin crew member that he wished to complain about us, she responded by telling him we had already complained about him and would he please raise his seat slightly and to leave us alone.
About 30 minutes later the “gentleman” carried out his ‘coup-de-grace’ slamming his seat back so violently that he injured my wife’s knee. She was in tears of pain. The crew again told the man to sit up slightly and to give us room.
My wife is still suffering from pain to her knee. What were my options? Request that the police be called and report him for assault? Some friends suggested having a go at him, however, I feel that this would simply have inflamed the situation. My point is that it isn’t always drinking that causes problem passengers!!
By the way, if the lovely girl who looked after us reads this, just want to say thanks!
