BA "new"( New) Club World 2006
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Hahahaha....Oh yeah that!!! I think Premium Academy is more a last ditch effort to get the pursers to sing from the same hymn book which is the one problem with our current service!!! The delivery of the Club service is not exactly difficult but my god do a lot of the pursers make it so!!!!
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During a recent LHR-HKG flt one of the pursers was telling me how much crew who had knowledge of the imporved Club World were quite dreading its launch.
Notwithstanding any improvements to the slightly narrow and short (though still better than most) beds, the main worry is how J class pax will enjoy being behind WT+ - especially when the SLF starts the mad dash to the exit on touchdown sketch.
Some issue too with the number of toilets for number of J class pax in the new 'cabin'. Should be interesting!
To anyone who thought this might be a trial layout, in order to test customer reception, apparently that is not the case. Same purser was telling me kit has been ordered for fitment across the fleet.
Some good news though. Apparently the upper deck on 747s will remain J class - even more of a scramble to reserve my seat up there from now on.
....excuse the typos on above posting! One question, if anyone can answer at this stage. Will the new BA J-class bed layout be a-la-Virgin ie: at something like a 45 degree angle to fuselage?
Have seen a few interesting reactions to that layout on t/o!
Makes facing backwards, for those who have a problem with that, seem positively normal. The new VS beds and \'personal space\' are pretty good it has to be said - although they could only be better than that which went before!
....excuse the typos on above posting! One question, if anyone can answer at this stage. Will the new BA J-class bed layout be a-la-Virgin ie: at something like a 45 degree angle to fuselage?
Have seen a few interesting reactions to that layout on t/o!
Makes facing backwards, for those who have a problem with that, seem positively normal. The new VS beds and \'personal space\' are pretty good it has to be said - although they could only be better than that which went before!
Notwithstanding any improvements to the slightly narrow and short (though still better than most) beds, the main worry is how J class pax will enjoy being behind WT+ - especially when the SLF starts the mad dash to the exit on touchdown sketch.
Some issue too with the number of toilets for number of J class pax in the new 'cabin'. Should be interesting!
To anyone who thought this might be a trial layout, in order to test customer reception, apparently that is not the case. Same purser was telling me kit has been ordered for fitment across the fleet.
Some good news though. Apparently the upper deck on 747s will remain J class - even more of a scramble to reserve my seat up there from now on.
....excuse the typos on above posting! One question, if anyone can answer at this stage. Will the new BA J-class bed layout be a-la-Virgin ie: at something like a 45 degree angle to fuselage?
Have seen a few interesting reactions to that layout on t/o!
Makes facing backwards, for those who have a problem with that, seem positively normal. The new VS beds and \'personal space\' are pretty good it has to be said - although they could only be better than that which went before!
....excuse the typos on above posting! One question, if anyone can answer at this stage. Will the new BA J-class bed layout be a-la-Virgin ie: at something like a 45 degree angle to fuselage?
Have seen a few interesting reactions to that layout on t/o!
Makes facing backwards, for those who have a problem with that, seem positively normal. The new VS beds and \'personal space\' are pretty good it has to be said - although they could only be better than that which went before!
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There should be no issue with toilets, zone C is already all Club on half the aeroplanes and i have never heard any complaints. Most destinations disembark through door 2 or both 2 and 1 so again no major problem. Even if it is door 1 they will only allow the left WTP aisle to disembark so you'll only be 16 behind. I believe the improvement will be so great as to make any disadvatages seem minor.
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I've watched this thread as a simple Pax observer. Since a dreadful experience in the 70's in economy, I have never flown long haul that way. The coming of business class was wonderful, and, through the years, I rated BA with the best.
BUT, for the first time I sampled the current 'flat bed' in BA Club earlier this year on 777 to Tobago, and I found it awful. Tight elbow room, hard armrests, but above all, claustrophobic, no space. I used to fly Club for spaciousness.
I've just come back from NZ, flying Air New Zealand business class. Their flat bed was so much better, even to the extent of offering a guest to dinner sitting on the end flat footrest on the other side of the table, complete with seat belt if needed. But my wife and I agreed that all of these arrangements were so much less friendly when travelling with a companion, than the original cradle seats.
I wonder what would happen if an airline made 50% flat bed and 50% old spacious seat, and offered the choice?
Next, I'm going to try Virgin UC!
Mike.
BUT, for the first time I sampled the current 'flat bed' in BA Club earlier this year on 777 to Tobago, and I found it awful. Tight elbow room, hard armrests, but above all, claustrophobic, no space. I used to fly Club for spaciousness.
I've just come back from NZ, flying Air New Zealand business class. Their flat bed was so much better, even to the extent of offering a guest to dinner sitting on the end flat footrest on the other side of the table, complete with seat belt if needed. But my wife and I agreed that all of these arrangements were so much less friendly when travelling with a companion, than the original cradle seats.
I wonder what would happen if an airline made 50% flat bed and 50% old spacious seat, and offered the choice?
Next, I'm going to try Virgin UC!
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MikeJ - when you fly Virgin UC, you will notice that they are very similar to ANZ business class seat - in fact identical.
Air NZ bought the rights to use the Virgin UC design
Air NZ bought the rights to use the Virgin UC design
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A mere pax speaking. Xeque
This must come about as VS ignored have F right from the start and others have removed F. The PW/WT+ option is almost as good as the very first club was 30 years ago! HOWEVER once all folks have removed F, then someone will reintroduce it to gain perceived market share and so the cycle will continue!
christep
You mean like on VS - who do not have a proper First Class? 
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... and do away with the distinction between First and Business.
christep
You've obviously never flown on a proper First Class (BA, CX, QF, etc.). You are provided with a "sleep suit" into which you can change and your clothes are put on hangers in a wardrobe while you sleep (in the case of the better airlines under a nice comfy duvet).
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As I see it, VS Upper Class is First Class in all but name. Unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of flying it since a) I'm hooked into OneWorld FFPs and b) it doesn't seem to get discounted enough for me to be able to afford it (unless you have access to a big corporate discount, which I don't). I can do a OneWorld Explorer 20 segment RTW ticket in First Class for about the same price as a long haul (e.g. LHR-HKG) Virgin Upper Class round trip.
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Re: BA "new"( New) Club World 2006
Originally Posted by Xeque
I don't care how much you spend on a First or Business Class seat (fully reclining or otherwise). You are still going to be sleeping in your clothes with no chance of a proper shave/shower/change of clothing before the aircraft lands.
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Re: BA "new"( New) Club World 2006
Originally Posted by wingzakimbo
MikeJ - when you fly Virgin UC, you will notice that they are very similar to ANZ business class seat - in fact identical.
Air NZ bought the rights to use the Virgin UC design
Air NZ bought the rights to use the Virgin UC design
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With respect that is rubbish.
Air New Zealand unveiled plans to redesign the interiors and cabins of its long-haul aircraft beginning with a NZ$160 million ($102.4 million) overhaul of its 747-400s. As part of the makeover, ANZ will eliminate first-class in favor of an upgraded business class cabin with lie-flat seatsbeds licensed from Virgin Atlantic and built by Contour Premium Aircraft Seating in Wales
Taken from http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...08/ai_n7722008
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Re: BA "new"( New) Club World 2006
Correct. Air NZ's business class seats are identical to Virgin's. Just take a look for yourself:
Air New Zealand:
Virgin Atlantic
Photos: Courtesy of Airliners.net
Air New Zealand:
Virgin Atlantic
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Re: BA "new"( New) Club World 2006
Virgin Atlantic already have a "dine when you want" service. Virgin also had premium economy beforte BA ever even thought about it.
Its a case of follow the leader.
Its a case of follow the leader.
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Re: BA "new"( New) Club World 2006
Yeah like flat beds virgin thought of them first, they just didnt implement them until 6 years after BA.... As for dine when you want BA have been doing that in first since Flying boats.
