AUSTRALIAN AIRLINES discussions (All Bases)
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I agree with lowerlobe cost is everything to QF and Jetstar International will be 40% cheaper than Qantas to operate. AO is only 30 % cheaper than QF to operate. At least a 10% drop is better than 40 !
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Cabin Scrag,
I think you will find that AO is lucky if it is 20% cheaper than QF and it still is losing money and that is the simple reason why J* was invented. If GD can get J* International operating for 40% less than QF then AO will have a hard time to prove to GD that it deserves to exist.
If AO had been a success then J* would never have seen the light of day, it was an idea of QF but did not quite work out as intended but it gave him the direction to go.Ao was intended as a divide and conquer ploy to get people working for less and giving punters less but paying much the same as QF.
GD will have no problem finding cabin crew for J* international as there will always be people wanting to fly overseas and will take almost any pay they are offered as will the tech crew if they think this is their only chance to get a job based in OZ.
If GD decides to have overseas bases and he will because he has seen the savings with QF’s bases then there will be unquestionably no problem finding crew.
Unless AO takes some more work practice concessions and effective pay cuts then AO is in deep s***.
QF has a similar problem but there is sentimentality with the brand that does not extend to AO.
I think you will find that AO is lucky if it is 20% cheaper than QF and it still is losing money and that is the simple reason why J* was invented. If GD can get J* International operating for 40% less than QF then AO will have a hard time to prove to GD that it deserves to exist.
If AO had been a success then J* would never have seen the light of day, it was an idea of QF but did not quite work out as intended but it gave him the direction to go.Ao was intended as a divide and conquer ploy to get people working for less and giving punters less but paying much the same as QF.
GD will have no problem finding cabin crew for J* international as there will always be people wanting to fly overseas and will take almost any pay they are offered as will the tech crew if they think this is their only chance to get a job based in OZ.
If GD decides to have overseas bases and he will because he has seen the savings with QF’s bases then there will be unquestionably no problem finding crew.
Unless AO takes some more work practice concessions and effective pay cuts then AO is in deep s***.
QF has a similar problem but there is sentimentality with the brand that does not extend to AO.
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AO Gold Coast Interviews 31 January
Just wondering if anyone out there has had an interview with AO around 9/10 December in CNS and how it went?
Any advice on the format that was used for the 6 hour sessions?
I will be attending a session on 31 January..fingers crossed it all goes well!!!
Also any word on the streets as to how many crew they are looking for?
Happy Festivus to all....
Any advice on the format that was used for the 6 hour sessions?
I will be attending a session on 31 January..fingers crossed it all goes well!!!
Also any word on the streets as to how many crew they are looking for?
Happy Festivus to all....
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Lowerlobe,
Management tell us we are infact 30% cheaper to operate than QF and GD is quoted as wanting JQ int to be 40% cheaper.
The difference between AO and JQ is that AO will offer full service economy and premium economy which suits the Japan market where as JQ int will offer similar to domestic buy your own food and pay for inflight entertainment which does not suit the Japan market. However things are very changeable and the airline industry is no longer how it was years ago and I think we are all in for lots more change ! Maybe AO will be absorbed into JQ oneday, maybe not, time will tell. My theory is that lower cost divisions will be forced to compete with each other to get flying and exist then eventually when costs are where the QF group want them it will all be re branded QF again with the lower costs in place. Thats where I agree with your QF brand loyalty theory but without the costs. Time will tell.
Management tell us we are infact 30% cheaper to operate than QF and GD is quoted as wanting JQ int to be 40% cheaper.
The difference between AO and JQ is that AO will offer full service economy and premium economy which suits the Japan market where as JQ int will offer similar to domestic buy your own food and pay for inflight entertainment which does not suit the Japan market. However things are very changeable and the airline industry is no longer how it was years ago and I think we are all in for lots more change ! Maybe AO will be absorbed into JQ oneday, maybe not, time will tell. My theory is that lower cost divisions will be forced to compete with each other to get flying and exist then eventually when costs are where the QF group want them it will all be re branded QF again with the lower costs in place. Thats where I agree with your QF brand loyalty theory but without the costs. Time will tell.
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Cabin Scrag,
Management ,especially airline management at that tend to tell you a lot of rubbish to be honest.I don't think they could lie straight in bed.
If AO was 30% cheaper than QF ,then AO would have to be running around near empty to lose that amount of money.
I personally don't want AO to be turned into anything else but the way QF thinks,GD would sell his own mother or family to get his bonus
Management ,especially airline management at that tend to tell you a lot of rubbish to be honest.I don't think they could lie straight in bed.
If AO was 30% cheaper than QF ,then AO would have to be running around near empty to lose that amount of money.
I personally don't want AO to be turned into anything else but the way QF thinks,GD would sell his own mother or family to get his bonus
