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Old 16th Oct 2005, 05:21
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OZ - IR issues, EBA's & T's & C's (All Australian Airlines)

Use this thread only to discuss IR issues, EBA's & T's & C's for Australian based airlines.

Threads started elsewhere on these issues will be merged into this one.

Abusive and/or hareful posts will be deleted by the moderators, and those posting will be banned.

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Old 16th Oct 2005, 07:57
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This thread is going to get very confusing.. considering there are already discussions about :

Australian Airlines
Qantas Long Haul
Qantas Short Haul
Eastern/Southern
Sunstate
Virgin Blue
Ozjet
Skywest
Rex
QantasLink
Antipodean

It's going to be very difficult to keep up when they are all in one thread. Can't we keep them seperate? Different airlines with different issues. They will all just get lost if they are all merged into one thread.

Just MHO.
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Old 16th Oct 2005, 11:43
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I have a feeling Australian's are no longer wanted on pprune as it will become more and more difficult to use. Therefore any new member wanting info on a specific Australian airline will just not bother.
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Old 16th Oct 2005, 23:25
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I agree galley hag,
The message is loud and clear, no discussions or opinions allowed, I'm not going to bother looking here as well its become a joke.
Goodbye to everyone even the people who I felt like screaming at, I will find another site that allows at least seperate threads, in the short time that I have been reading this I did enjoy the banter. HAve a look at the statistics, it showed Australians as the 2nd most viewers, and yet they are a smaking us on the face.
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 01:47
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Angry Good riddance!

Nothing's anti-Australian! Maybe the mods are simply sick and tired of you precious few slinging muck at one another without the addition of any serious thoughts. Ever heard of the saying 'you reap what you sow.? Oh damn - why I am I wasting time and bandwidth on a few uneducated and uncouth knuckleheads???
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 07:09
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Angel Eastern Dash News

Okay, we are all on edge about he EBA etc. I know we work long hours for cr-p pay! But there must be some good news stories around!

Maybe more of you need to taste the life at Club Mildura!

Happy Flying! And for gods sakes keep smiling!


When you see a smiling face in the bar book, just look out for the MQL girls!
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 08:06
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No, we're not anti-Australian. (Yawn). A little bit of searching and investigation in this forum will reveal why EBA threads are collected in one place - Largely because a sizeable minority of Australian crew were unable to discuss the subject without abusing each other and anybody else that popped up, in short, without following the rules of PPRuNe.

Things have settled down a bit now, but until there is some confidence that normal Rules Of Engagement have been established, this thread will remain as the collection point for EBA discussions.

The latest person to prove the point is IBAR-ONLY who prefers to rant and rave at the mods rather than to actually read and investigate, thereby establishing the history and precedent: An impressive level of knowledge and aggression from somebody posting for only the fifth (and now last) time!

A large number of Australian crew post in here on PPRuNE - this does not provide any inherent right that exceeds the rights of other nationalities. Quality has a value in here, not quantity.

IBAR-ONLY is now forum banned - You'll probably be able to find him/her in the other forums Dunnunda & Godzone which have been thoughtlessly provided by PPRuNE as part of our ongoing anti-Australian campaign to drive Australians out and stifle dissent and discussion.
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 09:33
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Thumbs up Hear, Hear!

Well said TightSlot! We used to think that the Poms were great whingers but I'm now not so sure that the assertion still applies after trawling through a lot of the abuse and personal invective that has been posted. . Anything to get rid of the whingers and moaners who invariably resort to personal abuse has to be a good thing. Go for them.
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 11:37
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Errrm, we're not ALL whingers
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Quite correct, ozskipper
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 14:42
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And the other quarter of us are just moaning about the whingers!!!

TS, if people calm down, will the posts about different airlines get moved in to airline-specific topics?? (Just wondering )

You mods have to put up with a lot, I wouldn't have the patience to do what you lot do!!!

Though I admit, giving us our own D&G forum was just the most insulting thing possible....!
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 21:29
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Sometimes a heated discussion is worthwhile. I agree that merging all eba discussions into one thread will get confusing.
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 22:09
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You mods have to put up with a lot
Especially
Tightslot, OZwise
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Old 18th Oct 2005, 07:30
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Hey SYD base crew

Any news on Saturday's EBA meeting. I know we are suppose to discuss these issues on that other thread, but im hoping the moderator will make an exception. Unfortunately we are sometimes kept out of the loop down in MEL/MQL bases.

Any news would be greatly appreciated.
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B A LERT,

Given the "mudslinging and personal insults" that pepper your posts, it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

The moderators should send you a warning message.
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Old 18th Oct 2005, 10:16
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Aaaaah, normal service has resumed at last... For a moment there I was worried that you'd all decided to be nice to each other. Silly me!
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I wasn't at the meeting but I heard that nothing new or interesting was said...
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Old 19th Oct 2005, 23:56
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so what's happening with you guys and career progression? nothing by the sounds of it?
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Old 20th Oct 2005, 06:50
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domestic eba

anyone knows where the domestic eba negoiations are?
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given the way things are and have been going in per. i believe 8 day trips are on the cards. 5hrs flying of eastern standard time which ive heard from union rep. and,higher hours for full time crew ie instead of 123 being a roster 130-140 may be a roster. now this is my opinion of what the company will go for and,not what i may wish to happen....given as mentioned 40% almost casual s/h crew that cant vote and a percentile of senior crew who may wish to do the big shopping trip on an every now and then basis,excited junior crew,youd have to ask what percent will vote on a whats best for me basis? anyway we all shall see in time cheers gigs
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