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KIX Qantas A330 emergency
Just a newsflash people.
Nine hurt after Qantas emergency landing
11:06 AEST Sun Aug 21 2005
Nine passengers were injured after a Qantas jet made a precautionary emergency landing in Japan when sensors detected smoke in the cargo hold.
The Airbus A330, carrying 178 passengers and 13 crew, landed in the central Japanese city of Osaka about 1am local time (2am AEST), shortly after leaving Tokyo, Qantas said.
The nine passengers suffered minor injuries, including in one case a possible fracture, during the evacuation that followed the landing.
The plane, bound for Perth, had been forced to make the emergency landing in Osaka after the aircraft's cargo sensors indicated smoke in the hold, Qantas spokesman Lloyd Quartermaine said.
On landing, air traffic controllers reported smoke, so passengers were evacuated via emergency slides.
"The Osaka Control Tower reported smoke on landing so an emergency evacuation was declared as a precaution and emergency slides deployed," Mr Quartermaine said.
But he added: "There was no fire."
Early inspections of the aircraft had shown no sign of smoke or fire and the airline believes a faulty reading from one of the cargo sensors may have caused a malfunction of the smoke alarm.
Japanese authorities are inspecting the aircraft and will report as soon as possible what happened to the aircraft.
Qantas has accommodated the passengers in Osaka while a relief aircraft has been organised from Tokyo.
Nine hurt after Qantas emergency landing
11:06 AEST Sun Aug 21 2005
Nine passengers were injured after a Qantas jet made a precautionary emergency landing in Japan when sensors detected smoke in the cargo hold.
The Airbus A330, carrying 178 passengers and 13 crew, landed in the central Japanese city of Osaka about 1am local time (2am AEST), shortly after leaving Tokyo, Qantas said.
The nine passengers suffered minor injuries, including in one case a possible fracture, during the evacuation that followed the landing.
The plane, bound for Perth, had been forced to make the emergency landing in Osaka after the aircraft's cargo sensors indicated smoke in the hold, Qantas spokesman Lloyd Quartermaine said.
On landing, air traffic controllers reported smoke, so passengers were evacuated via emergency slides.
"The Osaka Control Tower reported smoke on landing so an emergency evacuation was declared as a precaution and emergency slides deployed," Mr Quartermaine said.
But he added: "There was no fire."
Early inspections of the aircraft had shown no sign of smoke or fire and the airline believes a faulty reading from one of the cargo sensors may have caused a malfunction of the smoke alarm.
Japanese authorities are inspecting the aircraft and will report as soon as possible what happened to the aircraft.
Qantas has accommodated the passengers in Osaka while a relief aircraft has been organised from Tokyo.
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Perth shorthaul.
Nobody was paxed from anywhere to anywhere
Further:
Its called "scarebus" for a good reason...lotsa bloody faults and problems.Breakdowns galore.
Airbus have known about this faulty sensor problem for sometime.
Cost cutting factors in "acceptable risk".
Over the next few years expect to see a lot more of "incidents"such as this.
The Swiss cheese scenario is becoming holier every day.
Spin doctoring to follow
Nobody was paxed from anywhere to anywhere
Further:
Its called "scarebus" for a good reason...lotsa bloody faults and problems.Breakdowns galore.
Airbus have known about this faulty sensor problem for sometime.
Cost cutting factors in "acceptable risk".
Over the next few years expect to see a lot more of "incidents"such as this.
The Swiss cheese scenario is becoming holier every day.
Spin doctoring to follow
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I so agree!! Can't stand the airbus! What kind of aircraft creeks on take off and landing...It's horrible! All these emergencies are a bit worrying!!! What is going on?!?!
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No Communication...
The aircraft was crewed by shorthaul crew ex Perth.
No language speaker was onboard.
Pax were not briefed.
They had no idea of what was happening.
A most terrifying experience.
Cost cutting =no language speaker=very poor customer safety.
No language speaker was onboard.
Pax were not briefed.
They had no idea of what was happening.
A most terrifying experience.
Cost cutting =no language speaker=very poor customer safety.
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Great, the 300 or so Longhaul Japanese speakers are all flying to LAX, JNB, FRA etc etc while Qantas saves money on the big yen allowances by sending shorthaul (no language speakers) up to Tokyo. Good one Mark and Leslie.... Not saying that the crew didn't do a fantastic job at getting everyone off (you obviously did us all proud), but having a Japanese speaker onboard the Japan runs IS A MUST. Can guarantee most of the pax had absolutely no idea what was going on.
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Lancer....Preparation
If the situation had been prepared it would have meant that the pax were less frightened and far easier to direct.
This type of thing has an enormous impact on the travel choices the Japanese make.
It does QF reputation a great deal of harm,irrespective of the outcome.
Airbus ...the Hyundai of the skies.
This type of thing has an enormous impact on the travel choices the Japanese make.
It does QF reputation a great deal of harm,irrespective of the outcome.
Airbus ...the Hyundai of the skies.
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"If the situation had been prepared it would have meant that the pax were less frightened and far easier to direct."
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A little hard to do so given that QF's Japanese language skills are put to work on FRA, LAX and JNB trips.
Absolutely attrocious that QF ignore the need for language skills on these flights in an effort to save money.
One would hope that the Japanese government bring the company to heel re this failure.
Rumour has it that the Chinese government did so re the shorthaul operated PVG flights...............
Something to do with a PVG - SYD flight that was diverted to MEL with nobody onboard to advise the Chinese nationals that they were not in SYD.
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"If the situation had been prepared it would have meant that the pax were less frightened and far easier to direct."
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A little hard to do so given that QF's Japanese language skills are put to work on FRA, LAX and JNB trips.
Absolutely attrocious that QF ignore the need for language skills on these flights in an effort to save money.
One would hope that the Japanese government bring the company to heel re this failure.
Rumour has it that the Chinese government did so re the shorthaul operated PVG flights...............
Something to do with a PVG - SYD flight that was diverted to MEL with nobody onboard to advise the Chinese nationals that they were not in SYD.
Jettlager
QANTAS-Where executive performance bosuses come first.
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Travel Thickness - where do you get your info from? You seem to know alot, Airbus secrets, crewing info, passengers feelings. I'm Perth based SH crew and still waiting to find out the details.
As for the Airbus, it's a great aircraft, ask the tech crew who fly it. I don't believe they would allow such a fault as an acceptable risk. What would be the purpose of having this indicator when you can't see what's going on in the cargo hold. And what would be the next stage, wait for the cabin to fill with smoke or the hydrolics to fail.
And besides if it's true, the Osaka tower said they saw smoke on landing. I imagine the captain wouldn't have to think twice about ordering an evacuation after hearing that. I'm sure he knew it was possibly a fault and was originally planning a precautionary.
I am mates with crew members who were on the flight and I know they would have been complete professionals and briefed pax if they were instructed to do so, even if they were strapped into their jump seats. Maybe the captain didn't request for the pax to be briefed as is sometimes the case.
It's always better to be safe than sorry in any situation. I'm just pleased that it wasn't more serious. It's unfortunate for the pax that were injured but that's usually part of an evacuation. I hear that injuries were only minor except one that was more serious.
I just like to say well done to the crew. Take care of yourselves over the next few days. Looking forward to seeing you tell your story on video presentations next time I'm at ep's.... And then there's the Excel award.
As for the Airbus, it's a great aircraft, ask the tech crew who fly it. I don't believe they would allow such a fault as an acceptable risk. What would be the purpose of having this indicator when you can't see what's going on in the cargo hold. And what would be the next stage, wait for the cabin to fill with smoke or the hydrolics to fail.
And besides if it's true, the Osaka tower said they saw smoke on landing. I imagine the captain wouldn't have to think twice about ordering an evacuation after hearing that. I'm sure he knew it was possibly a fault and was originally planning a precautionary.
I am mates with crew members who were on the flight and I know they would have been complete professionals and briefed pax if they were instructed to do so, even if they were strapped into their jump seats. Maybe the captain didn't request for the pax to be briefed as is sometimes the case.
It's always better to be safe than sorry in any situation. I'm just pleased that it wasn't more serious. It's unfortunate for the pax that were injured but that's usually part of an evacuation. I hear that injuries were only minor except one that was more serious.
I just like to say well done to the crew. Take care of yourselves over the next few days. Looking forward to seeing you tell your story on video presentations next time I'm at ep's.... And then there's the Excel award.
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Whoa Topper!
I have friends who work in Japan and for Qantas.
I have friends who are aircraft engineers
We talk to each other and share information
I have no problem with shorthaul crew.
I DO have a problem with the lack of language speakers.
The reason there is no language speaker ?...Cost
The reason shorthaul does this sector...cost
The flying Hyundai might have a great cockpit but the cabin fitout is the pits
Insufficient stowage for garbage
Insufficient stowage for onboard stores
Badly designed galleys
Locker doors that don`t close
All in all cheap.
I have now done 35 sectors on the scarebus and written a dozen reports.
Result...Zilch!!
My attitude..."safety above service"no matter what the cost.
Anything else you have issue with ?
Feel free,I am only too happy to oblige
I have friends who are aircraft engineers
We talk to each other and share information
I have no problem with shorthaul crew.
I DO have a problem with the lack of language speakers.
The reason there is no language speaker ?...Cost
The reason shorthaul does this sector...cost
The flying Hyundai might have a great cockpit but the cabin fitout is the pits
Insufficient stowage for garbage
Insufficient stowage for onboard stores
Badly designed galleys
Locker doors that don`t close
All in all cheap.
I have now done 35 sectors on the scarebus and written a dozen reports.
Result...Zilch!!
My attitude..."safety above service"no matter what the cost.
Anything else you have issue with ?
Feel free,I am only too happy to oblige
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