Dash 8 Q300 cabin crew numbers
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Dash 8 Q300 cabin crew numbers
Hi all, can you please give me an indication of what your company operate with with regard to cabin crew numbers for the dash8 Q 300. Do you operate with 1 or 2 Flight attendants. Can you please state the number you operate with and the company you work for. Thank you much appreciated.
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QantasLink in Australia operate the DH3 with 2 flight attendants.
The f/a/pax ratio in Australia is 1:36. Therefore as the Q300's are fitted with 50seats we must have 2 f/a's on board.
One jumpseat at the front and one in the rear galley.
The f/a/pax ratio in Australia is 1:36. Therefore as the Q300's are fitted with 50seats we must have 2 f/a's on board.
One jumpseat at the front and one in the rear galley.
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The important thing here in Oz for acft for use on RPT services is as QF'walker pointed out
That applies to all acft types other than those like metro's etc as one cannot stand up to walk around in one of those.
The other important thing to consider is RPT as distinct from CHTR.
The rules may differ then.
The f/a/pax ratio in Australia is 1:36
The other important thing to consider is RPT as distinct from CHTR.
The rules may differ then.
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Brymon Airways (BA subsidiary) have, in the past, operated their Dash-8 300's (50 seats) with single cabin crew in "exceptional circumstances", last minute crew sickness/shortages etc and then only back to base with a reduced service at the discretion of the senior c/a concerned. It's pretty much frowned upon now as it's bloody hard work!! Other Dash-8 operators in the UK also fly regularly with 1 c/a as the legal requirement is 1 cabin crew member per 50 seats fitted. While at Jersey European we also operated the Fokker F27-500 (48 seats) with 1 senior c/a.
The First Officer normally reads the cabin brief before moving off stand, or a tape is played.
The First Officer normally reads the cabin brief before moving off stand, or a tape is played.
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love the facial features... Sunsate will be getting 4 of the 4oos next year with 2 f/as also...will be fun on those short sectors but at Eastern they might have them on the syd-cbr legs which at the moment they do it in 35 mins with a service (cold) and t & C
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That's depending on what the ratio is in your respective country, as explained in Australia, you must have 1 F/A to every 36 passengers, so any more than 36 pax, then you must have a second F/A and so on and so on. They are trying to change it in Australia to make it 1:50, but they will have a big fight on their hands.
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I don't like our chances of winning the fight to keep the 1:36 ratio in Australia, considering we are one of the few remaining countries which hasn't changed to a 1:50 ratio.
Personally, I believe the size of the aircraft should be taken into account. Those of us who have operated on a Dash 8 300 alone, can easily imagine how difficult it would be to evacuate 12 1/2 rows alone (not to mention in flight emergencies!).
Personally, I believe the size of the aircraft should be taken into account. Those of us who have operated on a Dash 8 300 alone, can easily imagine how difficult it would be to evacuate 12 1/2 rows alone (not to mention in flight emergencies!).
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Unfortunatly you are right. I work the ground and see 10 Dashs a day, and I'm continually amazed at how to f/a's deal with 36 pax by themselves. 50/1 would be wrong but with cost cutting the airlines will welcome it with open arms
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Absolutely they will, but the Australian Minister in charge of this area has apparently been inundated with emails etc opposing a change to the bill (all of you to be affected by this change should also email Minister Warren Truss voicing your disapproval).
The Australian government is obviously big on aviation security, this change will jepardise security big time. Also fair enough airlines are focused on cost cutting, but if this rule changes, then they won't have any service to deliver to their passengers as there won't be enough crew!!!! I don't see it happening. To many unhappy crew, meaning unhappy passengers, meaning unhappy airline, meaning drop in profits! Thinking positively, but i don't see it getting in. The s**t will hit the fan if it does!
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The Australian government is obviously big on aviation security, this change will jepardise security big time. Also fair enough airlines are focused on cost cutting, but if this rule changes, then they won't have any service to deliver to their passengers as there won't be enough crew!!!! I don't see it happening. To many unhappy crew, meaning unhappy passengers, meaning unhappy airline, meaning drop in profits! Thinking positively, but i don't see it getting in. The s**t will hit the fan if it does!
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Oz, you are totally right. 1 F/A to 50 pax is outrageous, especially on the kind of flying most Dash a/c do. What about regional flying? I myself in the past have dealt with a full Dash, one F/A and multiple pax with special needs... hard enough for us on the ground, but for the F/A in the air?! Imagine this with another 14 pax!! Not possible to do it and keep the standards where they are (which in some cases is at the limits of reasonableness anyway!)
I know they want to bring in 1:50 here to use NZ crew to do work on Aus routes (just try it, I dare yous....
) but realistically it wont work. Okay, in Europe or the States maybe, but if I'm not mistaken, most of that flying is fairly short hops and so forth, different kind of flying here.
The safety and security aspects of this whole plan, as Oz CC says, are what worries me. You can't possibly think that 1 FA to 50 pax would work in an emergency/security situation. (This is assuming that flight deck are too busy or unable to assist -which, let's face it - in an emergency they've got better things to be doing...!)
I know they want to bring in 1:50 here to use NZ crew to do work on Aus routes (just try it, I dare yous....
) but realistically it wont work. Okay, in Europe or the States maybe, but if I'm not mistaken, most of that flying is fairly short hops and so forth, different kind of flying here.The safety and security aspects of this whole plan, as Oz CC says, are what worries me. You can't possibly think that 1 FA to 50 pax would work in an emergency/security situation. (This is assuming that flight deck are too busy or unable to assist -which, let's face it - in an emergency they've got better things to be doing...!)
