BA Cabin Crew Costs
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Quidnunc,
You are as nasty to your OWN cabin crew on here as you are on Avcom.Why must you try to show us in a bad light on such a public forum.
I cannot understand why you openly hate us so much.We like you have taken hits to make OUR company profitable and hopefully more successful in the future.
You do not do too much for CRM do you?!!.
Maybe you would like to tell the general public how much you get paid 'on draft'!!,or maybe you don't want to tarnish your higher than high image.
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One question,were you dumped by a stewardess by any chance?.
Doors2Automatic
You are as nasty to your OWN cabin crew on here as you are on Avcom.Why must you try to show us in a bad light on such a public forum.
I cannot understand why you openly hate us so much.We like you have taken hits to make OUR company profitable and hopefully more successful in the future.
You do not do too much for CRM do you?!!.
Maybe you would like to tell the general public how much you get paid 'on draft'!!,or maybe you don't want to tarnish your higher than high image.
.One question,were you dumped by a stewardess by any chance?.
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Once again , another pathetic BA cabin crew bashing exercise 
Give it a break - most - in fact 65% of BA cabin crew are on the new contract, that means they start on £8,500 and are capped at £13,000 for the rest of their career .
Does that level of salary sound appealing to you - or is it worth getting so het up about - i don't think so.
Yes,there are a few older crew around who worked their way up the ranks or payscales - we've all signed a contract at some point in our lives.
In case you are unaware ,BA has been around for a very long time.
We were once offered a 'career' and so we've worked damned hard to make it what it is today.
84% customers v satisfied is not a bad rating,and is consistent.
I think you'll find that 90% of all the porsches,bmw's and jaguars that litter the crew car park are owned by pilots... the battered old fiestas and mondeos belong to the cabin crew...
Why don't you just give it up , or if you really want to justify your point , write down here what a B744 captains final salary is ,and we can all make an informed decision...
This continual bashing on a 'professionals' website is tiresome and disturbing to say the least.
In fact there is a current thread on the BASSA website about how much hate is directed towards BA cabin crew on PPrune, and how disconcerting/alarming we collectively find it ........
Ironically ,nothing negative has been written about pilots on the BASSA site for months ,and months - so really , where do we all stand when it comes to digninfied remarks etc... there is a whole lot of very bad feeling on here....
Give it a break - most - in fact 65% of BA cabin crew are on the new contract, that means they start on £8,500 and are capped at £13,000 for the rest of their career .
Does that level of salary sound appealing to you - or is it worth getting so het up about - i don't think so.
Yes,there are a few older crew around who worked their way up the ranks or payscales - we've all signed a contract at some point in our lives.
In case you are unaware ,BA has been around for a very long time.
We were once offered a 'career' and so we've worked damned hard to make it what it is today.
84% customers v satisfied is not a bad rating,and is consistent.
I think you'll find that 90% of all the porsches,bmw's and jaguars that litter the crew car park are owned by pilots... the battered old fiestas and mondeos belong to the cabin crew...
Why don't you just give it up , or if you really want to justify your point , write down here what a B744 captains final salary is ,and we can all make an informed decision...
This continual bashing on a 'professionals' website is tiresome and disturbing to say the least.
In fact there is a current thread on the BASSA website about how much hate is directed towards BA cabin crew on PPrune, and how disconcerting/alarming we collectively find it ........
Ironically ,nothing negative has been written about pilots on the BASSA site for months ,and months - so really , where do we all stand when it comes to digninfied remarks etc... there is a whole lot of very bad feeling on here....
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Some good points there Anti-ice but what we should remember is that there are only a very few very nasty,bitter people who want to dish out the dirt.
99% of both pilots and cabin crew are fair and sensible people who are working hard to make BA a success in the future.
I am in the lucky position of being on the old contract but those on the new contract are finding it very difficult to live near Heathrow and many are leaving for careers that pay the bills.
Maybe that combined with stupid one day courses (90 crew per day!!!)are the reason for crew shortages and NOT sickness which for the good of all is lower now that for a long time.
It has also been pointed out previously that with the reduction in crew levels on ALL aircraft BA cabin crew have already saved around 8% in crewing costs.
I am not daft enough to think that's the end of it,we must reduce costs again but BA be aware the passengers will only put up with so much,there is very good competition out there!!.
Doors2Automatic.
99% of both pilots and cabin crew are fair and sensible people who are working hard to make BA a success in the future.
I am in the lucky position of being on the old contract but those on the new contract are finding it very difficult to live near Heathrow and many are leaving for careers that pay the bills.
Maybe that combined with stupid one day courses (90 crew per day!!!)are the reason for crew shortages and NOT sickness which for the good of all is lower now that for a long time.
It has also been pointed out previously that with the reduction in crew levels on ALL aircraft BA cabin crew have already saved around 8% in crewing costs.
I am not daft enough to think that's the end of it,we must reduce costs again but BA be aware the passengers will only put up with so much,there is very good competition out there!!.
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hello all, am new to this forum. Am cc for BA and came onto this forum to escape the small minded, sanctimonious flight crew posting over at BA...........................seems I can't even get away here.As for Mr Walsh, well let's sit back and give the boy a chance. I recall that RE had a reputation as a hard man when he came to BA, he has done a fantastic job and it's a shame to see him go.
If Mr Walsh tries the hard man bully boy tactics that he used at EI, I suggest that he will rapidly go the way of Mr Ayling
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I am BA cc too and I am aware i do not work as hard anymore as on shorthaul, but longhaul is taking it out on your too and being on the new contract does not help always.
BA got an enormus turnover at the moment 'cause of the new entrants salary. I believe 80 NE leave every month and there are not enough to take their place!
Also my "better" half is one of our SFOs and i do have a good "internal" view of things from "the other" side. It has been said before...99% of both communities pulling on the same side of the string and that makes it worth working for BA!
Stop shouting at each other! It has been tried before on the internal forum! Only together it will work in the end. You may fly the metal tube without us but ....
So, lets be nice to each other and work with and not against each other
BA got an enormus turnover at the moment 'cause of the new entrants salary. I believe 80 NE leave every month and there are not enough to take their place!
Also my "better" half is one of our SFOs and i do have a good "internal" view of things from "the other" side. It has been said before...99% of both communities pulling on the same side of the string and that makes it worth working for BA!
Stop shouting at each other! It has been tried before on the internal forum! Only together it will work in the end. You may fly the metal tube without us but ....
So, lets be nice to each other and work with and not against each other
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Exactly guyz ' n galz - i would hope that this hatred is only stirred up by a few, as by and large , the vast majority of cabin crew and flight crew i work with every day are great.
It's very disturbing to see those on here that hol dsuch deep resentment and make up stories/salaries which are blatantly untrue.
It would be interesting to know why they feel like this , as the picture they paint and what really goes on at BA are worlds apart........
It's very disturbing to see those on here that hol dsuch deep resentment and make up stories/salaries which are blatantly untrue.
It would be interesting to know why they feel like this , as the picture they paint and what really goes on at BA are worlds apart........
