Flyblu / Blu Arrow? (merged)
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Your hidden message is clear enough trays and you are wrong. I would imagine if the boss or the top guys at flyblu wanted to make their points they would do so by name. Why wouldn't they after all, they would have us all banged up to rights if they did!
The delightful LD was indeed connected both places - so? Was I the only person who nearly became a toy in the game for cabin crew management and recruitment. I dont think so! Am I now allowed to resent being mislead? I do think so. Has no other person on this forum found they took the trouble to submit an application / CV and found it went missing? Where to?
I dont like to see anyone taking unfair shots at anyone. These people appear to be doing what they can to get started and it just struck me that these guys got a bit shafted, that was all. No big deal is it?
The delightful LD was indeed connected both places - so? Was I the only person who nearly became a toy in the game for cabin crew management and recruitment. I dont think so! Am I now allowed to resent being mislead? I do think so. Has no other person on this forum found they took the trouble to submit an application / CV and found it went missing? Where to?
I dont like to see anyone taking unfair shots at anyone. These people appear to be doing what they can to get started and it just struck me that these guys got a bit shafted, that was all. No big deal is it?
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I doubt if they have decided that yet Rachie. They dropped the lady who was doing recruitment earlier this year after running her ragged. I don't think there is anyone else there with experience or a clue what they are doing. My friend was the reservations manager there for a while. He was ex-crew, got landed with the cabin crew recruitment and they dropped him too after getting everything they needed from him.
A word of advice, be very careful with this so called airline.
A word of advice, be very careful with this so called airline.
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traysfortakeoff we was talking about flyblu the other week when you thought i was telling porkies about getting a e-mail from fred gorman regarding interviews, this got me thinking was there a bug got into my system so i phoned flyblu and they did send me the e-mail along with 100s of other people they thought was good for them to op as pursers, and this is a statment from there website.
GOING ON SALE DECEMBER 15th
Yes folks, believe it or not, we are going to formally go on sale for tickets to Florida from Birmingham in our comfy seats on December 15th this year and we hope that you have not lost all faith in us due to the slightly embarrassing sagas that we have played out since we first broke cover at the 2004 Destinations travel fair in February at the NEC.
Things have ground along slowly, oh so slowly for us, but we are at a point now where you will be able to safely book your passage to Orlando or St Petersburg/Clearwater from Easter 2005 and Fort Lauderdale from July 2005. To ensure you feel doubly secure, we have arranged that you will have the added confidence of an ATOL protected deal too now as we know that confidence is an issue for our customers after a couple of false starts.
Our new website will go live by December 14th with an active booking front end and our call centre team will also be ready and able to take your calls for seats plus car hire and accommodation should you need these extras for your Florida vacation.
I know that we have tested the patience of the regions travellers to the nth degree this year but we are very happy to say that we are now almost ready to fix all disappointments during 2005 and will happily redeem any offer vouchers you received during the last six months of 2004 to try to make amends for the poor way you were treated by us during this year.
So be of cheer – the words and hopes of 2004 are coming to reality, albeit a few months later than first hoped, but you WILL be able to fly ‘comfy jet’ to your holiday paradise next summer after all.
Just keep a watchful eye on this website and you will learn a thing or two to your advantage.
Thanks for hanging in there with us.
Aden Murcutt
CEO
blu - thinking Florida for you!
so anyone who wants to apply download the application form from the website and send it in, the interviews are in jan 05 for cabincrew and flightdeck good luck to all,
GOING ON SALE DECEMBER 15th
Yes folks, believe it or not, we are going to formally go on sale for tickets to Florida from Birmingham in our comfy seats on December 15th this year and we hope that you have not lost all faith in us due to the slightly embarrassing sagas that we have played out since we first broke cover at the 2004 Destinations travel fair in February at the NEC.
Things have ground along slowly, oh so slowly for us, but we are at a point now where you will be able to safely book your passage to Orlando or St Petersburg/Clearwater from Easter 2005 and Fort Lauderdale from July 2005. To ensure you feel doubly secure, we have arranged that you will have the added confidence of an ATOL protected deal too now as we know that confidence is an issue for our customers after a couple of false starts.
Our new website will go live by December 14th with an active booking front end and our call centre team will also be ready and able to take your calls for seats plus car hire and accommodation should you need these extras for your Florida vacation.
I know that we have tested the patience of the regions travellers to the nth degree this year but we are very happy to say that we are now almost ready to fix all disappointments during 2005 and will happily redeem any offer vouchers you received during the last six months of 2004 to try to make amends for the poor way you were treated by us during this year.
So be of cheer – the words and hopes of 2004 are coming to reality, albeit a few months later than first hoped, but you WILL be able to fly ‘comfy jet’ to your holiday paradise next summer after all.
Just keep a watchful eye on this website and you will learn a thing or two to your advantage.
Thanks for hanging in there with us.
Aden Murcutt
CEO
blu - thinking Florida for you!
so anyone who wants to apply download the application form from the website and send it in, the interviews are in jan 05 for cabincrew and flightdeck good luck to all,
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this is to prove to traysfortakeoff that aeroteam was behind the recruitment for flyblu they was then called blue sky personnel.
comment from trolly dolly babe,dated 3 july 2004
bacardi, I've done some investigating and its actually a company called Blue sky personnel who are the outsourced recruitment company for flyblu. thats their logo on the bottom of the page link you posted for flightcrewdirect.com.
The website for Blue sky personnel is www.blueskypersonnel.co.uk all looks very professional in my opinion. I called them, got a nice lady who said they recruit for all sorts of airline positions from cabin crew, vip stuff, ground, management etc. Ive asked to register, apparently they then call you back and go through any suitable positions.
Maybe these guys who do the recruitment are the only professional thing linked with flyblu afterall. Its not there fault if they cant go ahead with the interviews.
TDB x
thankyou tdb aleast someone else knew it was them behind it thanks.
comment from trolly dolly babe,dated 3 july 2004
bacardi, I've done some investigating and its actually a company called Blue sky personnel who are the outsourced recruitment company for flyblu. thats their logo on the bottom of the page link you posted for flightcrewdirect.com.
The website for Blue sky personnel is www.blueskypersonnel.co.uk all looks very professional in my opinion. I called them, got a nice lady who said they recruit for all sorts of airline positions from cabin crew, vip stuff, ground, management etc. Ive asked to register, apparently they then call you back and go through any suitable positions.
Maybe these guys who do the recruitment are the only professional thing linked with flyblu afterall. Its not there fault if they cant go ahead with the interviews.
TDB x
thankyou tdb aleast someone else knew it was them behind it thanks.
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The website has been updated to include 'current vacancies' for PURSER.SENIOR CABIN CREW & CABIN CREW for Birmingham.
Each role has a full job description together with a PDF file to download the application form to send to their offices in Solihull,West Mids.
Each role has a full job description together with a PDF file to download the application form to send to their offices in Solihull,West Mids.
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The name has already been changed on their website once to Bluarrow and now back to flyblu again. What next?
As for Aeroteam, they do nothing with flyblu anymore. I asked them about flyblu when I called them and they said it wasn't the type of company they would work for. Obviously flyblu had to use someone else to start with as they didn't know what they were doing. Lets face its, the "so called airline" is a one man band run by someone who likes florida and wants to fly himself there! The runs so many other companies that I wouldn't be surprised if he's "ATOL'd" himself somehow from one of his other companies.
Oh yes, as for their website being updated, I think you'll find its been back-dated! lol! That application form is actually one of the recruitment company's forms that they used when they did work for flyblu and now they seem to have carried on using it (no doubt without copyright permission). The website has actually got worse and gone back in time if you look carefully. All very dodgy!
So lets see what happens at WTM shall we (if they let them in a 2nd time around!) although, they do put on a good show if nothing else I have to say.
As for Aeroteam, they do nothing with flyblu anymore. I asked them about flyblu when I called them and they said it wasn't the type of company they would work for. Obviously flyblu had to use someone else to start with as they didn't know what they were doing. Lets face its, the "so called airline" is a one man band run by someone who likes florida and wants to fly himself there! The runs so many other companies that I wouldn't be surprised if he's "ATOL'd" himself somehow from one of his other companies.
Oh yes, as for their website being updated, I think you'll find its been back-dated! lol! That application form is actually one of the recruitment company's forms that they used when they did work for flyblu and now they seem to have carried on using it (no doubt without copyright permission). The website has actually got worse and gone back in time if you look carefully. All very dodgy!
So lets see what happens at WTM shall we (if they let them in a 2nd time around!) although, they do put on a good show if nothing else I have to say.
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Aeroteam/BlueSky...whoever they are do they change their names aswell out of interest?
I don't think Blue Sky have a website as such anymore. The techie guru behind the original company kept all the domains and websites etc as they were his and he's doing well from what I heard. Just a shame these two companies can't shake flyblu off them isn't it.
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Flyblu/bluesky/
Thanks for the help trays.
I take it that this would be the same two people who sent me a letter a couple of months ago telling me that they were in charge of recruitment for flyblu would it? They didnt seem in any hurry to distance themselves from flyblu back then!
Typical really, people get what they can from a company then move on and allow bad mouthing to continue unchallenged.
Unless they were doing the work for free - perhaps either of the two parties would be brave enough to post in their own names and tell us what the deal was that they had and why they are not with each other now too.
One thing that I dont get though is why this is such a big thing to you all. This can only be a deeply personal fight going on behind closed doors (all very closet if you ask me) with a persoanl agenda being vented on air.
Deal with it please and give the flyblu guys AND the Blu Aero Team a chance to get on with business and the cat calling behind.
I take it that this would be the same two people who sent me a letter a couple of months ago telling me that they were in charge of recruitment for flyblu would it? They didnt seem in any hurry to distance themselves from flyblu back then!
Typical really, people get what they can from a company then move on and allow bad mouthing to continue unchallenged.
Unless they were doing the work for free - perhaps either of the two parties would be brave enough to post in their own names and tell us what the deal was that they had and why they are not with each other now too.
One thing that I dont get though is why this is such a big thing to you all. This can only be a deeply personal fight going on behind closed doors (all very closet if you ask me) with a persoanl agenda being vented on air.
Deal with it please and give the flyblu guys AND the Blu Aero Team a chance to get on with business and the cat calling behind.
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Hi niceguy
I also know the guys who ran Blue Sky and AeroTeam. Believe me, they are two of the nicest people you'll ever meet. They both used to work for flyblu before starting out with their own business. From what I understand, one of them was a consultant only with flyblu and one was on the permanent payroll. They offered to take over the recruitment for flyblu, which was duly accepted and is probably about when they wrote to everyone telling them of this.
apparently, shortly after they sent letters out it was thrown back in their faces and they were given their cards at flyblu because the owner there didn't like the fact they started their own company. All very sour grapes really, but not nice for those two.
Don't knock them...they are great people with great experience and really are moving on from flyblu. Whatever reason they are not working together anymore is not for broadcast on here and is personal to them so leave them to get on with what they do best and lets not bitch about them. What will be will be after all! If flyblu get off the ground...great! If not, then lets hope not too many of us leave good jobs to be left in the lurch, thats all.
TDB x
I also know the guys who ran Blue Sky and AeroTeam. Believe me, they are two of the nicest people you'll ever meet. They both used to work for flyblu before starting out with their own business. From what I understand, one of them was a consultant only with flyblu and one was on the permanent payroll. They offered to take over the recruitment for flyblu, which was duly accepted and is probably about when they wrote to everyone telling them of this.
apparently, shortly after they sent letters out it was thrown back in their faces and they were given their cards at flyblu because the owner there didn't like the fact they started their own company. All very sour grapes really, but not nice for those two.
Don't knock them...they are great people with great experience and really are moving on from flyblu. Whatever reason they are not working together anymore is not for broadcast on here and is personal to them so leave them to get on with what they do best and lets not bitch about them. What will be will be after all! If flyblu get off the ground...great! If not, then lets hope not too many of us leave good jobs to be left in the lurch, thats all.
TDB x
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Rather a change of tune I think!
Now Trolley Dolley, whose a little bit naughty then?
Look back a little and you speak very well of the flyblu guys mid summer or thereabouts. Indeed at one point you would have been there only friend on here, but suddenly you seem to have switched horses mid race and you understand the other side of the debate so well.
Methinks you might have once been with flyblu and now you are Mr aeroteam. Small wonder you think them soooo nice and wonderful!
Out of interest, why would they let you both go if you were sooo wonderful really. Are these people just spending money for fun? Wish I had it to waste on this kind of game.
Look back a little and you speak very well of the flyblu guys mid summer or thereabouts. Indeed at one point you would have been there only friend on here, but suddenly you seem to have switched horses mid race and you understand the other side of the debate so well.
Methinks you might have once been with flyblu and now you are Mr aeroteam. Small wonder you think them soooo nice and wonderful!
Out of interest, why would they let you both go if you were sooo wonderful really. Are these people just spending money for fun? Wish I had it to waste on this kind of game.
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Look back a little and you speak very well of the flyblu guys mid summer or thereabouts. Indeed at one point you would have been there only friend on here, but suddenly you seem to have switched horses mid race and you understand the other side of the debate so well.
Yes I do think they're wonderful for what they do and they actually get on with it rather than talking about (not like some I could mention). They don't deserve to be brought into any rubbish on here to do with flyblu, they don't work for them anymore.
You really need to take a lie down if your that paranoid that everyone is someone else on here.
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Trolley Dolly again (yawn)
Trolley - your negative vibes make me shudder! Also your definitions cause me concern. Aeroteam (quote) 'actually get on with it rather than talking about (not like some I could mention).(unquote)
You'll no doubt be refering to the 3 vacancies on your, sorry, aeroteams website. Impresive. Thats certainly getting on with it and is a lot to show for several months work! (snide swipe there I think).
If you look at the WTM website you will see that flyblu are indeed at this years show and according to the floor plan, they seem to have a fair size stand. It also seems they have a new sales manager attending so perhaps they dont believe the rubbish on here about their chances for the future, and maybe they do know somethin we dont. Lets hope so. I just love it when a plan comes together!
You'll no doubt be refering to the 3 vacancies on your, sorry, aeroteams website. Impresive. Thats certainly getting on with it and is a lot to show for several months work! (snide swipe there I think).
If you look at the WTM website you will see that flyblu are indeed at this years show and according to the floor plan, they seem to have a fair size stand. It also seems they have a new sales manager attending so perhaps they dont believe the rubbish on here about their chances for the future, and maybe they do know somethin we dont. Lets hope so. I just love it when a plan comes together!
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AeroTeam Website
Well its working for me cabincrew1. I went to the AeroTeam site and it works fine. Try again!
Not sure about the Blue Sky site, that seems to redirect now to AeroTeam but the earlier post mentioned something about AeroTeam owning the websites didn't it?
Not sure about the Blue Sky site, that seems to redirect now to AeroTeam but the earlier post mentioned something about AeroTeam owning the websites didn't it?
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