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Just to clarify what I said earlier...
When I was refering to the fact that MAM casuals will most likely be used during strike, I was refering to the regional flying which is done on the A330 aircraft as they are only certified for this a/c type.
I am aware that Short Haul is very short of staff, and hence the reason behind their desperate recruitment drive, however I was also assuming Qantas also wanted these flight attendants for the regional flying in particular, as it would make sense to crew these sectors with short haul crew who are endorsed on the A330 a/c.
Or.... Qantas would use Flight Attendants in short haul permanent positions that have more experience on these regional international flights and crew the remaining slots left on domestic flying with the new recruits during the strike period so it does not affect its airline operations.
This however is only my thoughts and how I make meaning of the current recruitment drive.
If anyone knows what is exactly is the true reason behind it...and what is going on...please come forward.....
When I was refering to the fact that MAM casuals will most likely be used during strike, I was refering to the regional flying which is done on the A330 aircraft as they are only certified for this a/c type.
I am aware that Short Haul is very short of staff, and hence the reason behind their desperate recruitment drive, however I was also assuming Qantas also wanted these flight attendants for the regional flying in particular, as it would make sense to crew these sectors with short haul crew who are endorsed on the A330 a/c.
Or.... Qantas would use Flight Attendants in short haul permanent positions that have more experience on these regional international flights and crew the remaining slots left on domestic flying with the new recruits during the strike period so it does not affect its airline operations.
This however is only my thoughts and how I make meaning of the current recruitment drive.
If anyone knows what is exactly is the true reason behind it...and what is going on...please come forward.....
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Hi!
Regional flying can be done by any S/H Flight Attendant, as all S/H crew are endorsed on the Airbus and generally most L/H crew are too i think. Current casual recruitment is not just to generally cover regional flying, this is all mixed up. I flew with a casual out of Melbourne the other week who had only been online 6 weeks and she had already done a Hong Kong trip, so the recruitment is just because they seem to be short, nothing else in particular, as far as i know? You will need to have done the Business class training to be able to work in business class (training stopped last month due to shortage of crew), but apart from that.
Oz
Regional flying can be done by any S/H Flight Attendant, as all S/H crew are endorsed on the Airbus and generally most L/H crew are too i think. Current casual recruitment is not just to generally cover regional flying, this is all mixed up. I flew with a casual out of Melbourne the other week who had only been online 6 weeks and she had already done a Hong Kong trip, so the recruitment is just because they seem to be short, nothing else in particular, as far as i know? You will need to have done the Business class training to be able to work in business class (training stopped last month due to shortage of crew), but apart from that.
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oh no :(
Hi everyone
Well its been 3 weeks since my assessment day. So today I rang MAM and asked if they had any future dates for assessment planned, and I was told that future recruitment has been put on hold
Im not sure about Sydney, but that is the word from the Melbourne base. So more waiting I suppose, maybe I will apply with Jetstar in the mean time, cause I want to get my career off the ground, litrally I suppose!
So those of you who are still waiting, be prepared to wait a little longer I think!
Well its been 3 weeks since my assessment day. So today I rang MAM and asked if they had any future dates for assessment planned, and I was told that future recruitment has been put on hold
Im not sure about Sydney, but that is the word from the Melbourne base. So more waiting I suppose, maybe I will apply with Jetstar in the mean time, cause I want to get my career off the ground, litrally I suppose!
So those of you who are still waiting, be prepared to wait a little longer I think!
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With what Start84 just said...
I'am begining to think my prediction about MAM hiring also due to the strike could have possibly been correct now.
Why would they freeze thier recruitment straight after the Strike has been called off?
Star84 dont worry though....there are rumors going around that the strike breakers are going to be offerred positions possibly with MAM... and maybe they might take on some extra numbers from outside to fill the training classes...but I dont know how likely that is though.
Don't be let down by anything that is happening...as I've said several times befoe...you just dont know what Qantas has up its sleeves these days!
Take care
I'am begining to think my prediction about MAM hiring also due to the strike could have possibly been correct now.
Why would they freeze thier recruitment straight after the Strike has been called off?
Star84 dont worry though....there are rumors going around that the strike breakers are going to be offerred positions possibly with MAM... and maybe they might take on some extra numbers from outside to fill the training classes...but I dont know how likely that is though.
Don't be let down by anything that is happening...as I've said several times befoe...you just dont know what Qantas has up its sleeves these days!
Take care
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Just wanted to say hi to everyone first week of EPs down almost 2 weeks to go, its not so bad just a lot of study although we have lost one class mate this week, most of us are copeing ok.
Remembering all the commands in the simulater is the hardest part. Well those of you still waiting on good news I hope you get it soon. All S/H do the same flights no matter if full time or casual and most MAM casuals are doing more hours than they know what to do with so there is plenty of work out there.
Also MAM have nothing to do with the Long Haul side of things nor the industrial action that was going on, if that helps anyone. Also I have herd that S/H need more crew and MAM will be recruiting again soon. Luck all.
Remembering all the commands in the simulater is the hardest part. Well those of you still waiting on good news I hope you get it soon. All S/H do the same flights no matter if full time or casual and most MAM casuals are doing more hours than they know what to do with so there is plenty of work out there.
Also MAM have nothing to do with the Long Haul side of things nor the industrial action that was going on, if that helps anyone. Also I have herd that S/H need more crew and MAM will be recruiting again soon. Luck all.
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Hi!!
Yes, at the moment casuals seem to have a lot of work, but that's the thing with all these new casuals on the way, will the work be too diluted once they arrive (too many)? I know that's what a few current casuals seem to be worrying about. See what happens i guess? Who know's with supposedly increased flying etc?
Oz
Yes, at the moment casuals seem to have a lot of work, but that's the thing with all these new casuals on the way, will the work be too diluted once they arrive (too many)? I know that's what a few current casuals seem to be worrying about. See what happens i guess? Who know's with supposedly increased flying etc?
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Just a question, will short haul be recruiting sometime in the near future? With the mention above about them being short of crew could it be possible that a QF recruitment drive might happen soon?
Does anyone think this could be a possibility or I am just too hopeful? 
Just a question, will short haul be recruiting sometime in the near future? With the mention above about them being short of crew could it be possible that a QF recruitment drive might happen soon?
Does anyone think this could be a possibility or I am just too hopeful?
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The chances of that happening are slim to none and the reason being QF short haul has MAM casuals. It doesnt make business sense to recruit for permanent or even fixed term crew within short haul when they have the flexibility of these casuals.
There is a cap on the number of casuals that can be employed and I suppose when that is reached permanent positions will be available BUT im pretty sure these positions will always go to either regional's or MAM or both.
You may be interested to know the last time QF actually recruited in their own right for short haul was either late 2000 or early 2001 and these were for fixed term positions, once QF filled the quota required the remaining people were placed on a short list. Later in 2001 after Ansett a couple of hundred permanent positions were created and people from that short list (some interviewed in 2000) were offered positions. These were the LAST positions offered directly by QF to the public. I think in 2003 the Perth short haul base was created and 50 permanent positions were available and these went to MAM and base transfers.
That gives people a bit of history on the direction QF has taken. I know a lot of people that say they would never do casual or regional but if you are waiting for a permanent positions with QF off the street the chances of that happening are the same as them recruiting slim to none.
RollzRoyce
The MAM recruitment had nothing to do with the strike at all. Maybe one of the reasons why they are freezing recruitment is because QF now have 350 strike breakers they feel a moral obligation to look after ie finding places with MAM.
You are right though with QF and this industry things change by the day.
The chances of that happening are slim to none and the reason being QF short haul has MAM casuals. It doesnt make business sense to recruit for permanent or even fixed term crew within short haul when they have the flexibility of these casuals.
There is a cap on the number of casuals that can be employed and I suppose when that is reached permanent positions will be available BUT im pretty sure these positions will always go to either regional's or MAM or both.
You may be interested to know the last time QF actually recruited in their own right for short haul was either late 2000 or early 2001 and these were for fixed term positions, once QF filled the quota required the remaining people were placed on a short list. Later in 2001 after Ansett a couple of hundred permanent positions were created and people from that short list (some interviewed in 2000) were offered positions. These were the LAST positions offered directly by QF to the public. I think in 2003 the Perth short haul base was created and 50 permanent positions were available and these went to MAM and base transfers.
That gives people a bit of history on the direction QF has taken. I know a lot of people that say they would never do casual or regional but if you are waiting for a permanent positions with QF off the street the chances of that happening are the same as them recruiting slim to none.
RollzRoyce
The MAM recruitment had nothing to do with the strike at all. Maybe one of the reasons why they are freezing recruitment is because QF now have 350 strike breakers they feel a moral obligation to look after ie finding places with MAM.
You are right though with QF and this industry things change by the day.
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Hi all
EPs all over now we had our final exam today and we all past, thank god , no more (well for 6 months) only 7 days to go befor we go on line. A new school started yesterday in MEL they were all from BNE they said, so MAM are still recruiting. Good luck all.
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I finished EPs tonight too
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hehe. Nice to have it over with. I had a ball at EPs.... kinda sad its all over red rover. Our class was in BNE for most of it (we are from SYD) so we had a blast. The Valley will miss us lol.
Cant wait to go online too. A week and a bit of Cabin Services to go.
ttyl pplz
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100% in everything
hehe. Nice to have it over with. I had a ball at EPs.... kinda sad its all over red rover. Our class was in BNE for most of it (we are from SYD) so we had a blast. The Valley will miss us lol.Cant wait to go online too. A week and a bit of Cabin Services to go.
ttyl pplz
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hi mamers out there
have heard rumours that sydney casuals are not getting as much work as they have in the past. Many people on reserve in Sydney, and seems like other cities may follow.
do you think that MAM have over hired? whats the story out there, lots of us want hours and yet we are given 3-4 hour shifts here and there
have heard rumours that sydney casuals are not getting as much work as they have in the past. Many people on reserve in Sydney, and seems like other cities may follow.
do you think that MAM have over hired? whats the story out there, lots of us want hours and yet we are given 3-4 hour shifts here and there
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Hi!!!
I hope MAM/QF haven't over hired, even though it seems that way, but none of us want to be sitting there for 4 months of the year with nothing to do!!!! Fingers crossed for full time, but even that seems as if it's fading away now aswell?
Oz
I hope MAM/QF haven't over hired, even though it seems that way, but none of us want to be sitting there for 4 months of the year with nothing to do!!!! Fingers crossed for full time, but even that seems as if it's fading away now aswell?
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Do you mean that they are looking at language speakers for the next employed MAM casuals?
I'm not believing any numbers until it happens! Too many things change like the wind! One minute full time is all go go go, the next minute it's not happening at all, I just want some factual information!!!!! I'll believe it when i see it!!!!! Fingers crossed!
By the way, are all "new" casual groups going through being told and is it a part of their contract, that their casual employment will NOT lead to any future employment with QF? I've heard this is correct.
Oz
I'm not believing any numbers until it happens! Too many things change like the wind! One minute full time is all go go go, the next minute it's not happening at all, I just want some factual information!!!!! I'll believe it when i see it!!!!! Fingers crossed!
By the way, are all "new" casual groups going through being told and is it a part of their contract, that their casual employment will NOT lead to any future employment with QF? I've heard this is correct.
Oz
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OZcabincrew,
I'm longhaul and the latest round of QF bull****e sessions called "straight talk" confirmed the fact that QF were employing MAM casuals with language skills.
Jettlager
I'm longhaul and the latest round of QF bull****e sessions called "straight talk" confirmed the fact that QF were employing MAM casuals with language skills.
Jettlager