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I agree with Nans if your circumstances allow it, then go for it.
This whole 3 mth contract thing is freaking me out, my circumstances definately won't allow it. If it was offered to me i'd have to decline.
waiting_game
I agree with Nans if your circumstances allow it, then go for it.
This whole 3 mth contract thing is freaking me out, my circumstances definately won't allow it. If it was offered to me i'd have to decline.
waiting_game
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ok got more details
Ok, I got more details..
They can't give me things in writing as yet but heres what was said..
It is a 3 month contract and i only work if there is a strike. When it ends I am put on a shortlist for 6mths and may be called up to work afterwards. After that 6mths i'm dropped from the list and have to apply again if i want.
I still get paid though, even if I don't fly. So basically I could be getting paid to sit on my butt all summer..
If they need me between the end of training (training is this month) and beginning of the contract (december) they will call me and ask but it is not necessary for me to say yes, its only if i want to do it. If I say no it wont change my contract.
So after the 3 months i'd have to look for another job..
I'm pretty sure i'll take it, its experience i guess and any experience whether good or bad is benefitial i guess.
They can't give me things in writing as yet but heres what was said..
It is a 3 month contract and i only work if there is a strike. When it ends I am put on a shortlist for 6mths and may be called up to work afterwards. After that 6mths i'm dropped from the list and have to apply again if i want.
I still get paid though, even if I don't fly. So basically I could be getting paid to sit on my butt all summer..
If they need me between the end of training (training is this month) and beginning of the contract (december) they will call me and ask but it is not necessary for me to say yes, its only if i want to do it. If I say no it wont change my contract.
So after the 3 months i'd have to look for another job..
I'm pretty sure i'll take it, its experience i guess and any experience whether good or bad is benefitial i guess.
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Wow, that is really terrible, the condidtions are outrageous. Well done for getting the job, you must have done well coz many of us have been waiting weeks, but with those conditions many people won't accept.
And to reply after helping QF out with such terrible conditions, is ludicrous, I can't believe it.!!!!!!
Everyone was complaining about these short 9-11 month contracts but I was kind of o.k about it as I\'m in with Emirates just on hold but logic has it I wontb start training there til mid next year and that would have been perfect, but now all this mucking around even if I did get offered it I don\'t think I\'d accept.
Hey u flighties give these new guys a break their dreams for years and years already shattered by being offered ludicrous conditions and then to be called strike breakers, must be awful.
Got it, I have no idea what u should do, one way u should join the FAA and u might find yourself a job it if they fight hard enough, on the other hand hell I understand the strike CC as well now. Is QF really that bad? Gosh I hope EK is not like this!
And to reply after helping QF out with such terrible conditions, is ludicrous, I can't believe it.!!!!!!
Everyone was complaining about these short 9-11 month contracts but I was kind of o.k about it as I\'m in with Emirates just on hold but logic has it I wontb start training there til mid next year and that would have been perfect, but now all this mucking around even if I did get offered it I don\'t think I\'d accept.
Hey u flighties give these new guys a break their dreams for years and years already shattered by being offered ludicrous conditions and then to be called strike breakers, must be awful.
Got it, I have no idea what u should do, one way u should join the FAA and u might find yourself a job it if they fight hard enough, on the other hand hell I understand the strike CC as well now. Is QF really that bad? Gosh I hope EK is not like this!
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Im confused Chinup are you saying the term is outrageous being 3 months? As I dont understand what you mean about the "conditions", the conditions are no different, be it a 3 month or an 11 month contract.
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I am totally outraged at this! It would seem that people will do anything these days to work for an airline, and that is why our conditions are getting worse and worse and worse! It's not worth it!!!! I hope all current QF crew do strike and I hope so much that QF can't find enough takers to 'break the strike' cause you're all getting used and it's disgusting! Why is no airline respectable anymore?? And I'm not just talking about QF! 
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Got in,
Did they tell you what happens between training and beginning of the contract? I mean do you still get paid during this time?
Bloody hell 3 months..........wish they would have told us that in the interview, i was told 11 months as were alot of other people i'm sure. Wonder why its changed? I'm still wondering why I had an assesment centre and panel interview not just the assesment centre like most other people.
Anyway got in and for anyone actually i say if you can afford to take then do it! These opportunities are far and few between so grab it. And for those people who can't maybe MAM is the way to go..... this is all to hard.
waiting_game
Did they tell you what happens between training and beginning of the contract? I mean do you still get paid during this time?
Bloody hell 3 months..........wish they would have told us that in the interview, i was told 11 months as were alot of other people i'm sure. Wonder why its changed? I'm still wondering why I had an assesment centre and panel interview not just the assesment centre like most other people.
Anyway got in and for anyone actually i say if you can afford to take then do it! These opportunities are far and few between so grab it. And for those people who can't maybe MAM is the way to go..... this is all to hard.
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Lies, deciept and more lies.
Standard operating proceedure for those running QF.
L2P - Screw the roo
FlyingSarah,
I hope life with BA is treating you well.
Thanks for the support.
L2P
Standard operating proceedure for those running QF.
L2P - Screw the roo
FlyingSarah,
I hope life with BA is treating you well.
Thanks for the support.
L2P
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Having read with great intrest about the pilots issues they had about 15 years ago (the dispute we shall not name) It amazed me that this was allowed to happen undr a labour government.
However, it seems big buisness can be strong.
I will take the position if offered to me, and will take part in Industrial Action if determined to be in the best intrest of the membership by the FAAA. The only way that this can be won, and current benefits and conditions maintained, as well as a more secure work enviroment and potential for other AUSTRALIAN people to work for the national carrier is if all crew stand as ONE. United we must stand. When the cracks start appearing in the resolve of the workers is when the wall will start to fall.
Just 1 question for Short Haul crew, who appear to have at least 1 worker responding with glee about these events. QF suceeded in playing the 2 halfs of the union against each other, causing them to split. This has also meant that SH crew cannot strike in "sympathy" with the LH crew, and means that QF is now focused on destroying 1 division. My question: Who do you think is next? Once there is an unlimited number of crew stationed overseas, what happens then? Do you really think that the SH divison as it exists today will stay like that? I believe the plan is for QF to destroy LH... then move on to SH.
The only way forward is with a united front.
JB
I would like to point out, before others do, that I am not a current crew member. My comments are my own, and I formed them by research, reading, and adding 2 and 2 together. I think that I have got pretty close to the number 4 by doing this...
However, it seems big buisness can be strong.
I will take the position if offered to me, and will take part in Industrial Action if determined to be in the best intrest of the membership by the FAAA. The only way that this can be won, and current benefits and conditions maintained, as well as a more secure work enviroment and potential for other AUSTRALIAN people to work for the national carrier is if all crew stand as ONE. United we must stand. When the cracks start appearing in the resolve of the workers is when the wall will start to fall.
Just 1 question for Short Haul crew, who appear to have at least 1 worker responding with glee about these events. QF suceeded in playing the 2 halfs of the union against each other, causing them to split. This has also meant that SH crew cannot strike in "sympathy" with the LH crew, and means that QF is now focused on destroying 1 division. My question: Who do you think is next? Once there is an unlimited number of crew stationed overseas, what happens then? Do you really think that the SH divison as it exists today will stay like that? I believe the plan is for QF to destroy LH... then move on to SH.
The only way forward is with a united front.
JB
I would like to point out, before others do, that I am not a current crew member. My comments are my own, and I formed them by research, reading, and adding 2 and 2 together. I think that I have got pretty close to the number 4 by doing this...
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Has anyboyd heard back from ass cntr that was held on friday 3sep?
My referees have not been contacted as yet! Need I worry or do they contact those people they are not interested in last?
Also "got in" do you get paid after training until you start working?
My referees have not been contacted as yet! Need I worry or do they contact those people they are not interested in last?
Also "got in" do you get paid after training until you start working?
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paid after training?
Nah, you don't get paid between the time training finishes and the contract starts. But apparently there will be quite a few training sessions so you might be lucky and get into one closer to your actual start date..
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What are guys expecting? It has been made clear all along why you are being employed (putting aside the fact you can strike and all that). But these are short term contracts be it 3 or 11 months to cover industrial action with zero chance of permanent at the end of the contract.
There appears to be no shortage of people willing to take up this offer, just for the chance to fly long haul which if they work during the strike will only diminish any chance they have for a future in the industry (with QF long haul at least) not to mention the effect this will have on existing crew that have worked hard industrially for the conditions Australian enjoy today.
And just for record I totally support long haul in action they take, even though we at short haul cannot strike in actual support. I also disagree with short haul taking all the A330 flying. As I have said before this is NOT how it was sold to us during the last EBA. I believe what goes around comes around and like jb_flyer I have no doubt short haul will be in their sights once they have dealt with long haul.
The general feeling amoungst crew I have spoken to a short haul is, if long haul fail we are all stuffed, if they cant succeed with their membership and power we at short haul have no hope when qf turn on us.
There appears to be no shortage of people willing to take up this offer, just for the chance to fly long haul which if they work during the strike will only diminish any chance they have for a future in the industry (with QF long haul at least) not to mention the effect this will have on existing crew that have worked hard industrially for the conditions Australian enjoy today.
And just for record I totally support long haul in action they take, even though we at short haul cannot strike in actual support. I also disagree with short haul taking all the A330 flying. As I have said before this is NOT how it was sold to us during the last EBA. I believe what goes around comes around and like jb_flyer I have no doubt short haul will be in their sights once they have dealt with long haul.
The general feeling amoungst crew I have spoken to a short haul is, if long haul fail we are all stuffed, if they cant succeed with their membership and power we at short haul have no hope when qf turn on us.
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Galleyhag,
Not that I have received an offer yet but............I was expecting an 11 month contract like i was told in my interview. If I knew it was 3 months I wouldn't have bothered going.
A guaranteed income for 11 months is better than 3 months. Unfortunately for people with morgages like myself it just to risky to give up a full time job for 3 months, some people might say "well you don't really want it" but thats not the case at all i really want this but as i said before its just to risky for me, I don't want to lose my property just because i want to be i flight attendant. After the contract ends I might not get another job for months maybe. At least with an 11 mth contract I could save and plan and be in a better position, thats my opinion anyway.
To those who can do the 3 months I say good luck I wish you all the best and I wish i was in the same position as you.
Cheers
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Not that I have received an offer yet but............I was expecting an 11 month contract like i was told in my interview. If I knew it was 3 months I wouldn't have bothered going.
A guaranteed income for 11 months is better than 3 months. Unfortunately for people with morgages like myself it just to risky to give up a full time job for 3 months, some people might say "well you don't really want it" but thats not the case at all i really want this but as i said before its just to risky for me, I don't want to lose my property just because i want to be i flight attendant. After the contract ends I might not get another job for months maybe. At least with an 11 mth contract I could save and plan and be in a better position, thats my opinion anyway.
To those who can do the 3 months I say good luck I wish you all the best and I wish i was in the same position as you.
Cheers
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call head office
All u guys that were told 11 month contracts CALL head office and abuse the hell out of them. don't give your name, just call and hang up call and call and call and tell them in the assessment centre 11 months was told etc...
I think "got it" might be having us on, think what has been presented is a little bit odd, but let us just wait and see. Now Got it, does your last name begin with "A" if not I think u r full of it, as QF has not even finished all ass days yet, we will be notified from Wed on.
I think "got it" might be having us on, think what has been presented is a little bit odd, but let us just wait and see. Now Got it, does your last name begin with "A" if not I think u r full of it, as QF has not even finished all ass days yet, we will be notified from Wed on.
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Chin up
Got it is definatley not full of it, the 3 month contract was offered to a friend of mine aswell, she declined. Also her last name does not begin with "A".
As for the abusive phone call well thats immature and is certainly not going to help, ts not the fault of the poor person answering the phone they don't deserve to be abused.
Got it is definatley not full of it, the 3 month contract was offered to a friend of mine aswell, she declined. Also her last name does not begin with "A".
As for the abusive phone call well thats immature and is certainly not going to help, ts not the fault of the poor person answering the phone they don't deserve to be abused.
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OMG, this news is so terrible to hear!
I feel kinda lucky that I took on another job offered to me. I had really really wanted this Qantas job, but 3 mths is just wayyy too short! and perhaps you don't even get to work those 3 mths! (if current FA's don't go on strike)
What a terrible thing QF is doing! I understanding the company is there to make money, but whoa... it doesn't care about its employees at all!
I am sure some people don't think much of it, but oh.. I hope QF one day realises that it's employees are the engine of the company.. and if they aren't treated properly, its services are going to deterioriate and nothings gonna run.
I feel kinda lucky that I took on another job offered to me. I had really really wanted this Qantas job, but 3 mths is just wayyy too short! and perhaps you don't even get to work those 3 mths! (if current FA's don't go on strike)
What a terrible thing QF is doing! I understanding the company is there to make money, but whoa... it doesn't care about its employees at all!
I am sure some people don't think much of it, but oh.. I hope QF one day realises that it's employees are the engine of the company.. and if they aren't treated properly, its services are going to deterioriate and nothings gonna run.
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sorry guys
yeah u r right waiting game sorry got it!
I thought the terms sounded unusual, but since u have one to back it up. Got it sorry!!!!!!!
I called a friend after I babbled on and she confirmed that melbourne candidates will get e-mails by monday/tues as I said b4, and yes the contracts are only 3mths however ARE EXTENDIBLE
let's see
I thought the terms sounded unusual, but since u have one to back it up. Got it sorry!!!!!!!
I called a friend after I babbled on and she confirmed that melbourne candidates will get e-mails by monday/tues as I said b4, and yes the contracts are only 3mths however ARE EXTENDIBLE
let's see
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This whole thing is a 
mess!!!! It depresses & disheartens me and makes me wonder if it's worth persuing.
All any of us want to do is fly and work for an airline with as good a reputation as QF but their treatment of and obvious disregard for staff is going to earn them a very bad reputation, as it seems to be the case from reading lots of the posts on this site.
mess!!!! It depresses & disheartens me and makes me wonder if it's worth persuing.All any of us want to do is fly and work for an airline with as good a reputation as QF but their treatment of and obvious disregard for staff is going to earn them a very bad reputation, as it seems to be the case from reading lots of the posts on this site.