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Old 10th Aug 2004, 12:20
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F/A Arrested in Perth

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Flight attendant faces drug charges
10:16 AEST Tue Aug 10 2004


A flight attendant arriving at Perth Airport attempted to smuggle cocaine into Australia in his hand luggage and in packages strapped to his body.

The 32-year-old was a member of the cabin crew on a South African Airways flight from Johannesburg which arrived in Perth about 9am on Monday.

He was selected for a baggage examination and a swab taken from his luggage revealed high readings for cocaine, an Australian Customs Service spokesman said.

Customs officers subsequently found about two kg of cocaine in several packages in the flight attendant's hand luggage and inside a girdle strapped to his body.

Australian Federal Police arrested and charged him with importing prohibited imports.

He was due to appear in the Perth Court of Petty Sessions.

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Thanks for that post, made for some interesting reading.

"What a fool" came to my mind!! Obviously I don't know the crew members' personal circumstances or anything but if you play with fire........ nuff said.

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well not South African Airways cabin crew anyway
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lucky boy

it could have been worse though,he's lucky he wasn't caught trying to smuggle something even more dangerous into Aussieland,like,fish,organic veg,fresh meat ,eggs etc damn that would have bin life without parole.
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it could have been worse though,he's lucky he wasn't caught trying to smuggle something even more dangerous into Aussieland,like,fish,organic veg,fresh meat ,eggs etc damn that would have bin life without parole
I got rumbled b customs into the US for a little pot of UHT half and half from one of the trays. When I pointed out it was an American food item and had come out of the states not 3 days previous the guy said it could've been contaminated (despite the seal being intact)

Jeez, give some people a shiny badge and they lose what little intelligence they had to start (especially the TSA!)
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Old 12th Aug 2004, 14:45
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it could have been worse though....
Yeah, he could have been arriving in Bangkok, or somewhere you get killed for that kind of thing!

This made me sick. There's hundreds of people who'd kill for his job, and he has to go throw it away like that. How the hell does smuggling drugs when you're an F/A (or any airline employee for that matter!) become ok? I mean, no-one should, but you'd think an F/A of all professions would know better.

I suppose though, I should add that I don't know the circumstances, so maybe something that was happening in his life made it ok....

Seems there's been lots of big drug hauls in PER lately... maybe they are seeing it as an 'easy target'? If so, maybe this will show them you will be caught!

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And from some of the rumours that I have heard (mainly many years ago), he's only one of the unlucky(?!) to get caught - the others seem to have escaped detection.
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F/A of all professions would know better.

F/A a profession? Let's see - the English Dictionary and look up Profession and I don't think you will find F/A dear!
Nuff said and what a silly man, I hope he is now unemployed as well as in custody - didn't anyone tell him

COCAINE KILLS !!!
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Looked it up just for the heck of it:
Profession: a person's normal way of earning a livelihood.

OK so maybe what we do for a living is not entirely normal, but hey.....
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"it could have been worse though,he's lucky he wasn't caught trying to smuggle something even more dangerous into Aussieland,like,fish,organic veg,fresh meat ,eggs etc damn that would have bin life without parole."

If you dont like the AQIS regulations you dont have to vist you know. The objects you list have the potential to be more damaging to Australian industry than the drugs this guy had on him.
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I thank God Customs in Australia are like they are and i only hope that they get even more strict so we can keep Australia even more pest free from all those other countries. Like said previously, if you don't agree with the regulations in Australia then don't come, because quite honestly, we don't want you here! I watched a documentary about Customs the other night and a Customs Officer had pulled up a French lady because she had a chicken sandwich and two apples in her bag that she didn't declare or throw out before reaching customs so she was warned and explained the reasons for being pulled up on it and why things like that can't be brought into Australia (more importantly because agriculture plays a big part in the economy) and all she could say was "i have someone waiting for me outside", "I have never had this problem in any other country", "What a stupid rule" etc and all i can say is "WHAT A STUPID WOMAN!" Honestly, people don't use their brains and it's those people that shouldn't be allowed into this country, it obviously shows how slack Customs are in all of the other countries!!!!

And as for your comment about F/A not being a profession! We do an extremem amount of training and studying to get this position, and trust me if you haven't done it, you have no idea-There are thousands of people applying for one job and do you know why?? Most of the time it is such an easy job for great money (depends which airline) and great perks! and it seems to me, some people get a little jealous of this!!!!!

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OZcabincrew, quite right on the fact that people need to repsect the rules for different countries when they travel to them. Some people feel that it's OK to abide only by the rules they themselves think are sensible. Without much thought for or understanding of the devastation their stupidity can cause.
And then of course there is the question of monetary gain to be had......... In our comp we had a Purser who didn't think his salary was enough to live on. For years he lived above his means, until the day customs got a tip about why he always flew the south american routes. Not smart that.

When it comes to the regular digs taken here on pprune at the professionalism of Cabin Crew; it says a lot about the folks making such remarks.
When it comes to training of pilots and training of cabin crew, there is a big difference. Most pilots worl wide have to go through more or less the same kind of training to assemble the skills needed for the job. For ourselves that is not the case.
The amount of study and training required varies wildly. From country to country and from company to company. Some companies chuck you out on the line after 6 weeks of training, some companies expect you to train and improve all through your career. Generally speaking though, it takes longer to train a pilot than it takes to train a flight attendant.
Some pilots use that fact as a convenient tool to diss CC.

People who are good at what they do and satisfied with the life they lead, rarely cr@p on others. People who don't quite make the grade, are insecure and secretly unhappy with themselves, will generally resort to trying to bolster their own egos by belittleing others. Their problem, not ours if you ask me.
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Looked it up just for the heck of it:
Thanks, F40, I was sure that someone's job was their profession last time i checked... but I can understand how some people with not much idea of what an F/A does would fail to see it as a profession.... Since when are F/A's less qualified than say, a teacher, or bank manager....? All have received training in their chosen field and have experience and skills that vary with the job.... and many F/As have been flying for years... so I'd call that a profession...!



Some people feel that it's OK to abide only by the rules they themselves think are sensible. Without much thought for or understanding of the devastation their stupidity can cause.
You could apply the 'rule' of not doing in soeone else's house what you wouldn't do in your own.... same in the case of a country... some people get silly when on holiday and think they can break whatever law they like....!

As for cultural requirements, you're in their country, live by the rules..... just like visiting someone else's house really.... if they ask you to take off your shoes and not let your dog do its thing all over the garden, then do as they ask.... is it any harder to obey local laws....?

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"Looked it up for the heck of it".... sounds more like it had you really riled..!!!

I would not go quite so far as to describe the amount of training as "extremem" or even "extreme". Let's not get carried away.

Okay you are all professionals. Wow such a hoohah over a word. Who is it that could best be described as "insecure and secretly unhappy with themselves"??

Now back to the real topic here:

Do as it says in the video and keep your drugs, rotten fruit, precious chicken-sandwiches and bug-infested orchids outa this "special" country please. Are chook-sandwiches that much of a delicacy over there???

Good to see the rent-a-cops giving the rubber-glove treatment to twits like this French woman who think this place is as bad as Europe.

This SAA guy is lucky he didn't try it on in Malaysia where they line up a machine gun and execute the morons who are still stupid enough to try to import drugs there.




PS I also looked it up in Collins Concise: "An occupation requiring special training in the liberal arts or sciences, esp one of the three learned professions law, theology or medicine." Hmmmmmmmm.... Bummer!!
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Air-Hag, like i'm sure you've never made a typo!

The point of me saying F/A's go through an extreme amount of training is to get the point across, that not all of us are stupid, however there are the odd handfull. These morons who think we are just there to serve tea and coffee need to be told as they will go on thinking in this naieve way, in their own little world! I don't know what training you went through, but the training we went through is not like just going to a one day seminar on how to smile and look good! Non-flyers need to realise that the number one reason we're on these aircraft is for safety, the service is a bonus! They'd soon be the first one's to complain and whinge if we didn't know what we were doing in an emergency and just replied with, "yah, i know the wing's on fire, but are you sure you don't want a cup of coffee?"!

It's not hard to comply with each countries individual customs regulations and if your biggest worry in the world is that you can't bring your "chicken roll" into your chosen destination, then i'm sorry you need to go back to your own country and look at your priorities in life!

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From a passenger's point of view may I say that I do not regard this person's activities as being typical of Cabin Crew in general nor do I believe that his actions were condoned by his company. Not all passengers are unaware of the excellent job done by Cabin Crew.As someone who flies into Australia at least once a year may I say that I sometimes bring items which are on the banned list. These are invariably a couple of packets of seeds and some sweets for my nephew and nieces - they are ALWAYS declared. During the Foot and Mouth epidemic I lived in an affected area and even though I went nowhere near the farms in question I declared this too - with the result that my shoes were washed and returned to me before I was allowed in. NONE of this was a problem as far as I was concerned. I did, however, witness a Norwegian man trying to bring in some smoked salmon. He was quite irate that they could not allow it. It was, he declared, the best in the world. "That may be so sir but I'm sorry we cannot allow you to bring it in" "In that case" he replied, "I shall just not declare it next time" - stupid, stupid man - his passport number will have been noted. I have to say too that the Immigration, Customs and Quarantine officials have always been very friendly, polite and helpful. I have yet to meet a nasty one in Australia.
From the point of view of a nurse who looks after the babies of drug-addicted mothers, I hope justice is done. I have a lot of patience with our drug-addicted mums and their babies but little sympathy for the dealers and their helpers. The mums are usually easily manipulated, socially inadequate people, often with learning disabilities, who have been lured into drug taking by unscrupulous dealers. The fewer dealers and suppliers there are then so much the better as far as I am concerned.
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