Un-helpful, Un-Crew Orientated, Arrogant Captains
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Gentlemen,
what exactly are you talking about? Apart of hijacking the thread I mean. You killed a constructive discussion between crew members about what goes wrong when working together, only to spout generalisation about CC. If you want to indulge in such sport, please open your own thread and have fun nodding at eachother and agreeing on how B-A-D Cabin Crew are.
I think we could use the time here in a more profitable way to analyze what causes that kind of incidents, what to do to try to avoid it and what to do next time a similar situation arises. Both ways (CC to F/D and F/D to CC), of course. Trying to keep an open mind as usual.
Please let's keep your posts coming on this subject people, have not read such an interesting thread in a long time.
what exactly are you talking about? Apart of hijacking the thread I mean. You killed a constructive discussion between crew members about what goes wrong when working together, only to spout generalisation about CC. If you want to indulge in such sport, please open your own thread and have fun nodding at eachother and agreeing on how B-A-D Cabin Crew are.
I think we could use the time here in a more profitable way to analyze what causes that kind of incidents, what to do to try to avoid it and what to do next time a similar situation arises. Both ways (CC to F/D and F/D to CC), of course. Trying to keep an open mind as usual.
Please let's keep your posts coming on this subject people, have not read such an interesting thread in a long time.
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Well said Flapsforty.
What happened to FJW was appalling, that captain wasn't showing good CRM and wasn't probably paying too much attention to the company's procedures-in my company we have a ZERO tolerance policy for such abusive behaviour. I have to say that on some occasions the crews have been through some pretty bad times with disruptive passengers during the flight and have managed to keep the situation under control until landing, but whenever such situation occurred on the ground pax have been offloaded straight away.
This is not a cabin crew versus flight deck thread. On the opposite many people said that the majority of captains would have backed up their crew.
That individual might not be suited for such job. Captains have the responsibility of the safety of their passengers and their whole crew. Thank God these individuals are not so common!
I once met a captain who was so good at CRM, so crew-oriented, so caring of his colleagues that everybody in the company loves him and I am thinking of marrying him
take care and happy flying....and have a look at CHIRP...it's worth writing to them!!! Let the CAA see what is happening...such idiots board our planes and we have to undergo so many checks to get a bloody BAA pass?????
Cheers
FBW
A-ha!! this explains it all.
What happened to FJW was appalling, that captain wasn't showing good CRM and wasn't probably paying too much attention to the company's procedures-in my company we have a ZERO tolerance policy for such abusive behaviour. I have to say that on some occasions the crews have been through some pretty bad times with disruptive passengers during the flight and have managed to keep the situation under control until landing, but whenever such situation occurred on the ground pax have been offloaded straight away.
This is not a cabin crew versus flight deck thread. On the opposite many people said that the majority of captains would have backed up their crew.
That individual might not be suited for such job. Captains have the responsibility of the safety of their passengers and their whole crew. Thank God these individuals are not so common!
I once met a captain who was so good at CRM, so crew-oriented, so caring of his colleagues that everybody in the company loves him and I am thinking of marrying him
take care and happy flying....and have a look at CHIRP...it's worth writing to them!!! Let the CAA see what is happening...such idiots board our planes and we have to undergo so many checks to get a bloody BAA pass?????
Cheers
FBW
PS cabin crew forum... yes... but last time I checked at least one of those \'P\'s in PPRUNE stood for "Pilots".
