Ryanair charging for Cabin crew training (merged Ryanair recruitment topics)
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Ryanair charging for Cabin crew training
Just noticed on the Ryanair website that they are now "using" CAE Aviation to train potential cabin crew. Candidates appl;y to CAE Aviation Training, pay to join the course and subject to passing the 5 week course will be hired by Ryanair.
Its bad enough charging Pilots UKŁ50.00 just to apply for an interview, but to charge Cabin Crew to complete the training is just plain mean..
From the Ryanair site:
In order to become Ryanair Cabin Crew you must first complete a Cabin Crew Initial training course lasting approximately 5 weeks with a Ryanair approved training organisation. Ryanair has approved the training course of CAE Aviation Training and you should contact them in the first instance if you are interested in a position. You will be required to fund your own qualification with CAE aviation training
Its bad enough charging Pilots UKŁ50.00 just to apply for an interview, but to charge Cabin Crew to complete the training is just plain mean..
From the Ryanair site:
In order to become Ryanair Cabin Crew you must first complete a Cabin Crew Initial training course lasting approximately 5 weeks with a Ryanair approved training organisation. Ryanair has approved the training course of CAE Aviation Training and you should contact them in the first instance if you are interested in a position. You will be required to fund your own qualification with CAE aviation training
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market forces
At the moment they can get away with this sort of stunt but the market will change and people who do this sort of thing will have to change the way they recrute staff.
I see the start of this in the pilot sector with type rated pilots for the NG737 and A320 having no trouble finding jobs and type rating courses for the more experienced paid for by the company.
As aviation picks its self up after the disaster of the last two years things will change and the poor employers will be forced to improve the recrutment and empolyment policys or down size as the workers leave for better jobs.
I see the start of this in the pilot sector with type rated pilots for the NG737 and A320 having no trouble finding jobs and type rating courses for the more experienced paid for by the company.
As aviation picks its self up after the disaster of the last two years things will change and the poor employers will be forced to improve the recrutment and empolyment policys or down size as the workers leave for better jobs.
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Ryanair never cease to amaze me....They have more front than McDonalds!
The first few months as crew (during the training) are tough enough financially anyway!!!
I say if you're interested in the low-cost sector....apply to easyJet!
The first few months as crew (during the training) are tough enough financially anyway!!!
I say if you're interested in the low-cost sector....apply to easyJet!
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It is not a mistery anylonger that my company is about to burst 
so a lot of us cabin crew are jobless and looking for somewhere else to land on ...
Few days ago we realized Ryanair has a base in BGY (Bergamo) so we sent a CV ...
Here is what we got back:
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Entry level
• At least 18 years of age
• Between 1,57m and 1,85m in height with weight in proportion
• The right to work and live in the EU
• Education: successfully completed Higher General Secondary Education or a similar level of education (Netherlands: HAVO/MBO, Germany: F.O.S., France: Etude Secondaire)
• Proficient in English, both written and spoken
• Able to swim
• Physically fit and able to pass a medical assessment
• Normal vision (contact lenses acceptable)
• Good work mentality
• Willing to move to other bases within Europe
• Be prepared to live within one hour’s travelling time of the airport
• Be prepared to work unsociable hours
• Friendly and outgoing with a lively personality
• Ready to meet the challenge of dealing with people and demanding situations
• Able to work in a customer services environment and comfortable in a selling role
Screening
Before you will be admitted to the course, an assessment will be organised during which you will be screened.
The screening procedure will take 1 day and includes a presentation by Ryanair/CAE and an interview with a Ryanair HR representative.
Training
After a successful assessment and a medical check you will be offered a Training Contract with CAE Centre Amsterdam and a Labour Contract with Ryanair.
The training will take place in our Amsterdam Training Centre and takes approximately 5 weeks.
Costs
Medical check: € 65,--
Cost of training: € 2.499 ,--
Fees are including taxes.
The job
• You will be offered a permanent position
• You will be based where most convenient to Ryanair; your preference will be taken into consideration
• Salary will be approximately € 1.500,-- per month net
• Generous travel concessions to destinations all over Europe
Accommodation and travelling
Accommodation and travelling during the Screening and the Training will be at your own expense and responsibility. CAE will try to support you in finding affordable accommodation.
Training start dates
Courses start throughout the year for successful candidates.
What next
Please fill in the attached CV template and save it as “yourname.XLS”. Send it by e-mail to the following address: [email protected]. It will be filed by us and when we start recruiting we will contact suitable candidates. Due to the very large number of applicants that we will receive, we regret that we will not be in a position to answer any questions by telephone, letter or personal visits.
After receiving your application, only suitable candidates will be contacted throughout the year. Unfortunately we are unable to inform you about the status of your application which we will keep on file. We wish you good luck and hope to welcome you to one of the CAE centres in near the future!
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Basically that means that someone has to invest at least 5000 Euros for the training (including travel, accomodation and few sandwiches). And after that you have to buy your own uniform as well ....
Were will we end up in aviation? do you think all this is fair?
I just wonder how many cabin crew they will recruit from now own ....
Anyone care to comment?
so a lot of us cabin crew are jobless and looking for somewhere else to land on ...Few days ago we realized Ryanair has a base in BGY (Bergamo) so we sent a CV ...
Here is what we got back:
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Entry level
• At least 18 years of age
• Between 1,57m and 1,85m in height with weight in proportion
• The right to work and live in the EU
• Education: successfully completed Higher General Secondary Education or a similar level of education (Netherlands: HAVO/MBO, Germany: F.O.S., France: Etude Secondaire)
• Proficient in English, both written and spoken
• Able to swim
• Physically fit and able to pass a medical assessment
• Normal vision (contact lenses acceptable)
• Good work mentality
• Willing to move to other bases within Europe
• Be prepared to live within one hour’s travelling time of the airport
• Be prepared to work unsociable hours
• Friendly and outgoing with a lively personality
• Ready to meet the challenge of dealing with people and demanding situations
• Able to work in a customer services environment and comfortable in a selling role
Screening
Before you will be admitted to the course, an assessment will be organised during which you will be screened.
The screening procedure will take 1 day and includes a presentation by Ryanair/CAE and an interview with a Ryanair HR representative.
Training
After a successful assessment and a medical check you will be offered a Training Contract with CAE Centre Amsterdam and a Labour Contract with Ryanair.
The training will take place in our Amsterdam Training Centre and takes approximately 5 weeks.
Costs
Medical check: € 65,--
Cost of training: € 2.499 ,--
Fees are including taxes.
The job
• You will be offered a permanent position
• You will be based where most convenient to Ryanair; your preference will be taken into consideration
• Salary will be approximately € 1.500,-- per month net
• Generous travel concessions to destinations all over Europe
Accommodation and travelling
Accommodation and travelling during the Screening and the Training will be at your own expense and responsibility. CAE will try to support you in finding affordable accommodation.
Training start dates
Courses start throughout the year for successful candidates.
What next
Please fill in the attached CV template and save it as “yourname.XLS”. Send it by e-mail to the following address: [email protected]. It will be filed by us and when we start recruiting we will contact suitable candidates. Due to the very large number of applicants that we will receive, we regret that we will not be in a position to answer any questions by telephone, letter or personal visits.
After receiving your application, only suitable candidates will be contacted throughout the year. Unfortunately we are unable to inform you about the status of your application which we will keep on file. We wish you good luck and hope to welcome you to one of the CAE centres in near the future!
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Basically that means that someone has to invest at least 5000 Euros for the training (including travel, accomodation and few sandwiches). And after that you have to buy your own uniform as well ....
Were will we end up in aviation? do you think all this is fair?
I just wonder how many cabin crew they will recruit from now own ....
Anyone care to comment?
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Xenia sorry to hear of your troubles - good luck.
I'm fascinated by this, since most new hire crew that I meet scarcely have 2 cents to rub together when they start their careers. They tend to all live together in a communal apartment, huddled round a small fire made from unwanted furniture calling boyfriends on their mobiles to inform them which night it's their turn to use the one and only bed. Quite how FR expects these folk to stump up €3,000 and more is beyond me: Surely, they're simply not going to get any applicants?
I'm fascinated by this, since most new hire crew that I meet scarcely have 2 cents to rub together when they start their careers. They tend to all live together in a communal apartment, huddled round a small fire made from unwanted furniture calling boyfriends on their mobiles to inform them which night it's their turn to use the one and only bed. Quite how FR expects these folk to stump up €3,000 and more is beyond me: Surely, they're simply not going to get any applicants?
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WOW! Who could afford to pay that, when most airlines PAY YOU to train!!!!!!
I really doubt anybody will be in for that. Well, maybe some people who don't realise that you don't HAVE to pay for training, and that the airlines usually pay YOU!
I'm in shock! That's crazy!!!!!!!!!
I really doubt anybody will be in for that. Well, maybe some people who don't realise that you don't HAVE to pay for training, and that the airlines usually pay YOU!
I'm in shock! That's crazy!!!!!!!!!
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But unfortunately it's working. The job situation in Europe is - as well as general economics - not very good so there are not many airlines which have better job offers actually.
But let's do our best for the meantime and I'm sure sooner or later all of you will have a better choice
But let's do our best for the meantime and I'm sure sooner or later all of you will have a better choice
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Ryanair Cabin Crew Recruitment
Hey all,
I have an invitation to go to a Ryanair recruitement day. Is there any one who went through the Ryanair recruitment day and their training? Apparently the interview and training are done by CAE Aviation Training. All information, hints and help are very appreciated.
I have an invitation to go to a Ryanair recruitement day. Is there any one who went through the Ryanair recruitment day and their training? Apparently the interview and training are done by CAE Aviation Training. All information, hints and help are very appreciated.
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I was going to apply a few months ago, but decided on easyJet instead...the salary isn't anywhere as good as Ryanair, but at least all the training is free.
I do have to add though that Ryanair are by no means the only airline that charge for training. A similar system exists in many other airlines, Varig of Brazil also expect you to fund your own training before even applying for a position with them.
As someone else mentioned, there will be plenty of people willing to invest the money, so as long as that situation exists, Ryanair will keep on charging.
rgds
I do have to add though that Ryanair are by no means the only airline that charge for training. A similar system exists in many other airlines, Varig of Brazil also expect you to fund your own training before even applying for a position with them.
As someone else mentioned, there will be plenty of people willing to invest the money, so as long as that situation exists, Ryanair will keep on charging.
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They just get worse and worse don't they.
Well as an FR refugee, I feel compelled to warn you all off applying. There are some great people there but most of them are unhappy. If you must, then use them as a doorway into the industry, and get out as soon as something better comes along.
Well as an FR refugee, I feel compelled to warn you all off applying. There are some great people there but most of them are unhappy. If you must, then use them as a doorway into the industry, and get out as soon as something better comes along.
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Where there's a will...there's a way...
Oh look kids, this is what you do...
1. Get a credit card with a 3000 euro limit
2. Pay for the course (5 weeks or so and you'll still have time before the final demand bill arrives from the bank)
3. Declare bankrupcy
4. Deed poll a new surname so your credit history is A+ again
1. Get a credit card with a 3000 euro limit
2. Pay for the course (5 weeks or so and you'll still have time before the final demand bill arrives from the bank)
3. Declare bankrupcy
4. Deed poll a new surname so your credit history is A+ again
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Ryanair Cabin Crew Scam
What's this?
To become a Ryanair dolly you must first complete an approved training course in either Amsterdam or Italy and fund it yourself before they consider you for a position with the worst employers in the business.
Don't believe me?
Go to their website.
They only sink lower!
Maximillian
To become a Ryanair dolly you must first complete an approved training course in either Amsterdam or Italy and fund it yourself before they consider you for a position with the worst employers in the business.
Don't believe me?
Go to their website.
They only sink lower!
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For all European based cabin crew, easyJet is currently recruiting for PARIS ORY, BERLIN SXF and just announced today a new base in Dussledorf. Look at the website, www.easyjet.com for more information.
EasyJet PAY for your training and PAY YOU a salary whilst on the course. I'm not saying they are the best company in the world, but they are 100 times better than Ryanair.
Goodluck if you apply.
EasyJet PAY for your training and PAY YOU a salary whilst on the course. I'm not saying they are the best company in the world, but they are 100 times better than Ryanair.
Goodluck if you apply.
