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skychild 26th Feb 2008 01:24

V Australia
 
Hey all,

V Australia are now recruiting their cabin crew. Does anyone have any information on conditions or pay for cabin crew, cabin leader or Flight manager positions?

Goodluck to all applying :ok:

wirgin blew 27th Feb 2008 09:46

Nothing yet. You will have to apply in faith that it will be ok. I would expect it to be similar to the Part B scale of QF EBA 8 since that is the competition.

wellcome_ 29th Feb 2008 03:15

Is anyone else attending the group interviews in Melbourne? Or has anyone attended these interviews in the past? I would love some insider information about what to expect!!

wirgin blew 4th Mar 2008 08:24

28 day rosters
Minimum 9 days off per roster
42 days annual leave
90 minute call out for standby duty

That is what is on the internal site. There isn't anything else at the moment so like I said before you will have to jump through the hoops before you find out what the pay will be like.

Considering the competition has just had their EBA signed off I wouldn't expect V-Oz to pay any more than what QCCA is offering.

Mr Seatback 2 11th Mar 2008 08:24

V Australia - News & Recruitment
 
Since applications closed today for the various roles, might be an idea to keep each other clued in on all the interview happenings, pay & conditions gossip, etc.

I don't want this thread to degrade into a slanging match. Let's keep it clean people!

Don't know if anyone has got interview slots, or where they're interviewing first, etc. Any news/goss?

I Just Want To Fly 12th Mar 2008 11:27

Just had my phone interview for Cabin Leader. Lady I spoke to was very nice, they are interviewing Flight Managers and Cabin Leaders until tomorrow, then starting with Cabin Crew after that. Obviously they have received thousands of applications, but looks like most people with flying experience will get an interview.

Interviews for all ranks in DXB in the first week, followed by SYD, BNE, MEL & AKL throughout April.

Good luck to everyone!

OzyOS 12th Mar 2008 11:44

Fantastic that they have started the phone interviews! Cant wait to see how its all going to pan out!

Cheers

darawadee 13th Mar 2008 04:10

I just got the phone interview for Cabin Crew today. It was very short interview though,the guy who I spoke to was asking me generally not complicated. Actually,I just send my application yesterday which I didn't expect to get the quick response. I'm not sure what is the next process will be. Just have to wait!!

sebby 13th Mar 2008 08:20

I would give it a week or two before you get concerned and give up. Many phone calls to be made im sure and more than 2 days may be required to make them!

futureflier 14th Mar 2008 03:10

Since they're going to be starting up with limited numbers of crew, do you think they'll recruit anyone with no flying experience??

apparently 14th Mar 2008 11:27

I was told by V recruitment that after your phone interview you will be notified via e-mail for an invite to the assessment days. There are some assessment days for SYD coming up early April.

It's really quite hit and miss whether people are available to answer their phones when the recruiters call. Those who have missed the call, I am sure that you will be contacted again!!!!

I hope lots of others receive "the call" and good luck!

sebby 14th Mar 2008 11:40

Yeah, good for you Mr Seatback and good luck.

I was really just asking as I was curious if they were still phoning for Manager/supervisory roles or were calling Cabin Crew applicants yet, if they do.

I have a feeling the bulk of experienced crew will make up the Senior roles and a mix of experienced and newbies will take Cabin Crew positions. Have I just stated the obvious, I think so.. :O

sebby 14th Mar 2008 22:45

Australian carriers rarely do as they look for long term employees and usually have an abundance of people putting their hand up for Cabin Crew positions.

On the recruitment website there is an email address, they say there may be a delay in a response but it probably wont hurt to ask.

futureflier 15th Mar 2008 00:43

Have they started calling for cabin crew yet or is it just cabin leaders and managers??
i've applied to both V Australia and Virgin Blue so I'm hoping I get at least a call from one!! .. I've been working in hotels for the past 4 years I need a change!

skychild 15th Mar 2008 01:10

I missed the call yesterday from them re Flight Manager application.

I checked my email and they had sent one saying they had tried to call and to contact them when Im available to call on the the number they supplied.

Very professional I thought.

Mr Seatback 2 16th Mar 2008 02:06

They said it would be 8th and/or 9th April...that's for Flight Managers, but not sure if they're doing the other categories at the same time. That's Sydney interviews - not sure if they're doing anywhere else this month, other than Dubai and Auckland (according to the website).

futureflier 16th Mar 2008 08:28

I too noticed that the application has gone from closed back to active again. I just don't quite know whether to take it as a good or bad sign!

AirborneSoon 16th Mar 2008 08:36

Take it as neither, it could be something as simple as an internal admin process that has no bearing on the consideration of your application. Remember they've updated the application form as well and made other small admin changes. So until your hear it's a definate no, hold positive expectations. :ok:

transcontinentalcc 17th Mar 2008 09:46

I think it's great that V Australia has worked so fast with external applicants, interviews for internal candidates are scheduled right up until August!

laloopa 18th Mar 2008 06:18

I know it's early days and i'm probably worried about nothing, but I'm an external applicant with no flying experience and haven't been contacted at all for a phone interview yet. Just wondering when should i start thinking that they are not going to conatact me at all, and will all of the applicants with the necessary requirements (eg Senior first aid, customer service experience, RSA) get a phone interview? or am i just wishful thinking.

sorry just stressing about it all :bored:

Mr Seatback 2 18th Mar 2008 08:37

I wouldn't get too worries just yet mate. It's late March now, and the first aircraft doesn't arrive until September...

For start up, they need about 280 crew. Plenty of time between now and then - and that's just for the first three aircraft. There's four more on top of those, plus 6 'options' with Boeing.

I don't know if they've even started general Cabin Crew recruitment yet. I'm only aware of Flight Manager/Cabin Leader assessment days...but I could be proven wrong!

Mr 1A! 18th Mar 2008 09:45

Iv also applied online but i haven't heard from them at all... Hope they give me a chance. Iv tried with EY and EK but no luck there. I would rather work for V Aust.... Hope they call.

fingers crossed for us all!

flitegirl 18th Mar 2008 19:26

guys, hang in there. Flight Attendant recruitment in Australia hasn't been this hot for years. Qantas are recruiting like crazy now they have a new LH EBA and Virgin also for their new international routes. Plus JQ will continue to expand and then there's the new entrants. There will be jobs here there and everywhere!

Goodluck

I Just Want To Fly 21st Mar 2008 13:49

I have my VRD in DXB scheduled for the 1st of April!

Can anyone give any ideas on the behaviours Virgin Blue identifies as being key to the role. Not sure if Virgin Atlantics have spread through to the other sister airlines...

Virgin Atlantics are as follows:


CS – CUSTOMER SERVICE

Anticipates customer needs
-Takes personal responsibility for Resolving
a broad range of customer queries/issues
to deliver ‘best’ customer service·
- Actively monitors customer satisfaction
and seeks feedback from customers to
increase performance
Responds positively to customer needs·
- Takes responsibility for Resolving basic
customer queries/issues within the
scope of his/her experience
- Maintains a ‘can do’ approach at all
times, when dealing with customers.

WWO - WORKING WITH OTHERS
Adapts approach for different individuals,
cultures and situations·
- Works effectively across cultures and
roles; is able to effectively lead and influence
diverse teams.
- Draws upon different styles and
approaches to maintain relationships and get
the best results.
Seeks out different situations, environments and opinions.
- Recognises and takes into account different cultural and individual styles.
- Demonstrates flexibility in sharing the workload.
- Talks of other team members in positive terms, directly and indirectly.
- Creates appropriate fun and energy in the workplace and retain a sense of humour.
- Demonstrates a personal style, which is informal, friendly, relaxed and approachable.
- Asks for feedback on own performance.
- Finds ways to make work and / or the work environment fun for self and others.

IS – INTERPERSONAL SKILLS
Responds constructively to stress or
pressure.
- Develops a way of dealing constructively
with pressure situations, (i.e. understands
their own emotions as the basis for better
self management).
Maintains self control
- Resists the impulse to Act immediately; takes time to think through a response, continuing
with the customer situation (even when there seems little scope for success)
- Consciously knows, manages and controls own emotions when provoked.
- Understands and manages own feelings in given situations.
- Is open to and Actively seeks feedback from colleagues, management, customers, taking

CDM – COURAGE & DECISION MAKING
Takes difficult decisions
- Makes decisions that may be unpopular,
explaining the rationale to others.
- Stands by difficult decisions even when
faced with opposition, addressing the
situation appropriately.
Embraces Challenges
- Admits to own mistakes; explains what
he/she has learned from them.
- Is confident in own ability and is decisive
when dealing with situations
Shows Self Belief
- Expresses own opinions confidently.
- Makes appropriate decisions
independently, without unnecessarily
referring to others.

PSC - PROBLEM SOLVING & CREATIVITY
Proactively takes ownership and Resolves
problems
- Steps back from a situation in order to gain
a better understanding and proactively seeks
out the best solution
- Demonstrates flexibility when dealing with
situations, even when faced with ambiguity
Uses common sense to identify problems and situations
- Demonstrates understanding of the impact of own actions on cost.
Proposes or suggests new ways of doing things which could prove more efficient and / or
effective.
- Uses own initiative to resolve day-to-day problems, where appropriate.
Uses resources cost effectively, taking care not to be wasteful.

CAI - COMMUNICATING & INFLUENCING
Tailors influencing approach
- Adapts the content, style, language and
tone of a discussion to the needs of the
individual .
- Sells own ideas by linking them to others’
values, goals or ideas
Uses logical persuasion
- Communicates clearly and confidently, Engaging with all of our Customers·
- Ensures knowledge of our products and services is up to date e.g. limo service, menu items,
wines, Revivals etc.
- Demonstrates a concern for harmony and a Friendly environment.
- Keeps fellow crew updated/informed to ensure efficient working.

Mr Seatback 2 21st Mar 2008 23:22

What position/s have you applied for IJWTF?

It'll be interesting to see what it is they're looking for. I don't imagine it will be much different from the general Virgin 'flair' they look for at VB. As you've noted IJWTF, I wonder how much Virgin Atlantic they want to inject into V Australia - given that it will compete with Qantas & United internationally. What you manage to get away with at VB may not necessarily be in favour with V Australia (ie. jokes on the PA, etc.)

I also wonder how they will assess people throughout the day for manager-type roles onboard. Generally speaking, we'd all be familiar with the idea of not being too outspoken, or too quiet at group type exercises (which is fine for Cabin Crew roles)...but for managerial positions, this could shift away from being 'in the middle' towards demonstrating more 'leading' qualities. Just a thought - but I'm as equally in the dark in what they're looking for.

I suppose it's an interesting situation to be in. Since none of us work for this new Virgin brand yet, we don't have any 'inside' or personal perspectives from anyone. From what I understand, the product launch itself (fares, an idea of what will be onboard, etc) will occur towards the end of this month. Hopefully, that will give us all more information to work on prior to the interviews.

Rambocrew 22nd Mar 2008 17:37

Just really wonder...What is VRD? Is it Virgin Australia or Virgin Blue?? I saw the initial on both forum.

And for all Aussies, please tell me where can I register for the Alcohol serving license and First Aid one? Can I do it online? How long does it take for the course?

Thankx

mrsh 23rd Mar 2008 01:51

I've applied for both Flight Manager and Cabin leader and have loads of experience but I haven't even heard anything back yet and it's been close to two weeks now. I suppose they're still sorting through all the applications, then again perhaps I would have got a "no thank you" email by now if i wasn't successful? Can anyone shed any light here for me, please?

transcontinentalcc 23rd Mar 2008 04:15

VRD - Volume Recruitment Day

To weed out the good candidates from the "volume" amount of applicants.

I Just Want To Fly 23rd Mar 2008 18:10

I applied for Cabin Leader, but think that I have only progressed to Cabin Crew interview. I've only been flying for 2 years, and I think the experience of applicants is quite high.

Mr Seatback 2 24th Mar 2008 07:35

Is anyone else going to the SYD recruitment seminars? I hear they're on the 8th AND/OR the 9th.

IJWTF - How do you know you're only being considered for Cabin Crew? Did they say anything in the telephone interview? Did you apply for Cabin Crew online as well?

mrsh - I know they're busy tee-ing up seminars for Dubai, Auckland and Sydney next month. Could be they're just very busy organising everything.

I thought I'd missed out too, then - bang - out of the blue, a phone call...

Interestingly, I don't know of ANYONE in SYD who's going for the SYD day above...not even friends of friends! Curious to know just what they're recruiting for right now. Is it FM's and CL's, both, both + cabin crew?

OzyOS 24th Mar 2008 08:11

Ive been wondering myself about the recruitment days for Sydney? I have done the phone interview (Flight Manager) and all seemed to go well. I was informed at the end of the interview to 'reserve' the 8th and 9th as I will be required to attend one of these days for recruitment...still waiting for the email invite that I was told I would recieve...
My guess is that no one has recieved this E-vite as of yet for Sydney (Flight Manager interviews), with the Easter break having just passed and it seems all the DXB crew are going thru interviews in April first Virgin HR have certainly had their hands full! May still be a week or so until we actually recieve the 'formal' invitation...But I think we will all be relieved by the end of the week when we check our emails..hopefully :ok:

Mr Seatback 2 24th Mar 2008 08:22

I know what you mean Ozy! I've been checking my email furiously! LOL

Will be interesting to see how many people they're catering for in the Flight Manager assessment days. There was a time when you'd know friends, or even friends of friends, who were going...you're the only other person I know who's been invited apart from me! LOL

With all the recruitment going on in this country for flying jobs, it's not surprising I guess. What will be interesting to see is where all the Flight Manager applicants have come from - can't imagine there are too many ex supervisory crew floating around these days, with the exception of MAM crew perhaps (but most of them I know are looking at gigs at QCCA as CSS's, etc).

Of course, there'd be VB crew going for this too (but would they be going through the assessment days with us, I wonder?)

What about the DXB interviews? How many would want to turn their back on EK? Would there be many with cabin supervisory experience looking to come back to Oz? And the same for AKL I imagine...

Questions, questions - all looking for an answer! :p

transcontinentalcc 24th Mar 2008 08:48

There's been hundreds of EK crew and supervisor's dying to come to V... the recruitment days over there are going wild!

Internal recruitment for FM and CL are being done seperately, the days next month are all for external applicants... VAus are expecting alot of expats to come back from DXB and there are many many many internal applicants with the credentials and drive for onboard management jobs.

Fierce times ahead!

transcontinentalcc 24th Mar 2008 08:50

Oh.... and expect that salaries to be almost identical to what is being offered at Qantas under the new QCCA EBA 8... which isn't too bad when we're looking at on board manager roles!

OzyOS 24th Mar 2008 08:54

Bless...Mr Seatback 2 your in overdrive with all your thoughts!! LOL!
Hhhmm, wonder if I can help you out a little with some of my thoughts..unfortunatley wont be the actual answers to your questions...but could help put your mind at ease a little..or at least give you something new to chew over.. ;)
I doubt it will be a lot of Flight Manager that V are looking for to start with, so I do expect the competition to be somewhat stiff in the beginning...guessing that they are looking for less than 30 to start with (happy for corrections if im wrong...the more the merrier I say!) out of the proposed 280 crew. Its true that EK Crew will be providing alot of the competition for these slots (as they are already familiar with the operation of the 777-300ER and some already in Purser positions)...However, having been ex EK crew myself, I am aware that the Australian crew with EK who have already achieved 'Flight Manager' or 'Cabin Leader' status have been living in DXB for many years. It can be looked from 2 different angles I suppose..one angle: They have had enough and just want to come home..no matter what.. or the second angle: Im already established (have home, car etc), I have my boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife who doesnt want to move or cant move and I also have friends here, V wont be able to match my current income 'tax free' and the destinations are far more exciting with EK then to be on just LA's only for a long period of time. Im guessing that the second angle could be where V may find their achilles heel when taking current Pursers and Leaders out of their already established environment? (also the percentage of Australian passport holders in Emirates that are already Managers/leaders isnt as high as the local nationalities etc)...the airline is made up of thousands of crew from all over the world that wont be able to legally work in australia...so there is already a large amount of applications from EK that wont be considered due to this fact. There may even be a few 'sticky beaks' who are invited for the interviews, but are not seriously considering the move...just curious about the new airline, conditions and process?
Thing is we can go nuts specuating the 'if's, but's, how's and why's'. I truely think that V will do great in recruiting the Cabin Crew from Dubai, as the less senior you are the less you have to lose by jumping ship to V. But who knows...at this initial stage, as long as you can tick all the boxes...we are all in with a shot...it always boils down to the interviews and how well you can jump those hoops!! :ok: Just hold your breath and keep fingers crossed for that fabulous email to arrive soon! :p

Ps It will be very lovely if the conditions are close to what QF have been offering...nice start for the Managers! Remember the aviation industry is booming at the moment...its a fantastic time to be recruited as there are so many options, you can put your eggs into many baskets!...Actually just heard today that the Sheikh announced plans for Emirates starting a low cost carrier would you believe!...so many possabilities!

Mr Seatback 2 24th Mar 2008 08:55

Oh OzyOS...I'm a bundle of nerves right now! LOL

Normally, I'm not this speculative...but there's so many unanswered questions...curious by nature I guess (or is that compulsive obsessive???) :sad:

Very interesting points of view there Ozy...yes, mulling it all over and taking it all on board at the same time...Happy to hear you're willing to alleviate the concerns of a tragic! :}

Well it's reassuring to hear the conditions are being mirrored closely to QCCA. :D

Interesting times ahead by all accounts...egads! Competition from the Middle East AND internally by the hundreds...EEEK!

Bit worried that I can hold up against the competition...fingers crossed I can keep my end up! LOL

And GOOD LUCK to everyone else too!

sebby 24th Mar 2008 09:34

I was semi interested in going for cabin leader role (4 years as cabin crew, one of those as short haul purser, currently) but didnt for the simple fact that I would be worried if I was unsuccessful in that role I wouldnt be allocated the opportunity to be of the rank below, cabin crew. But I predict there will be other opportunities for promotion relatively quickly so I could try within a year or two for a promotion.

OzyOS 24th Mar 2008 09:54

I know Mr Seatback 2 how on edge these airlines can keep you! They always excel at keeping their cards close to their chest..especially with a new airline as there is nothing really to go on since they havent started operations yet...so no cheeky inside information! :} (VB inside info cant even help as V will be a completey different type of operation from aircraft to service to destinations..international is a different ball game.)
Just have faith in your own abilities (everyone applying has something new and different to bring to the table) and give it your all...thats all anyone can ever ask :ok:

Mr 1A! 29th Mar 2008 14:01

Hi, I'm a bit worried... I haven't heard anything from V Aust. yet... i know some friends have already got emails inviting them to the next stage.
Does any1 know if no contact means unsuccessful? (I hope not).

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